Rip upa-2

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  1. sob

    sob Moderator Moderator

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    RIP UPA-2. Early elections are now the only way forward | Firstpost


     
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    This is something many of the commentators have been pointing out, but the arrogance of the Ruling Party makes it impossible to work for the benefit of the nation. It is better that we face the polls in the next 3 months if the alternative is 3 more years of this mess.
     
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    On Sunday Lord Megnath Desai had a similar article in the Indian Express and he expressed similar sentiments especially the behaviour pattern of the Ruling Cong. party with the principal opposition party.

    RIP UPA

     
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    The UPA government has completely pissed the Corporate lobby that is one lobby the Congress must have on its side.This lobby is siding up with MMS not with Sonia Gandhi
     
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    The corporate lobby is easily swayed. The Govt just needs to lob some sops at them clear some of their projects and viola they will start singing paeans for the Congress Party.
     
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    The large ones TATA,ITC L&T have too large intrests
     
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    I'm just waiting for this govt. go ASAP. Everyone except the politicians are suffering under this govt.
     
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    None want a election immediately
     
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    By none you mean politicians right.
     
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    Yup not until middle of next year when UP verdict will be out.Even then the Congress will decide
     
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    I think the last nail of in the coffin of UPA-2 would be the event of Chidambaram being sent to visit Tihar, as an inmate of course.
     
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    This corrupt and shameless govt needs to be ousted ASAP
     
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    OTOH we might yet see UPA-III in 2014! With the way our (semi literate) electorate votes based on caste and faith anything is possible. UP Assembly elections 2012 could be an important stepping stone towards that. Congress party is vigorously wooing Muslim vote. If they can put up a good showing in UP then they are in a with good chance for 2014 Lok Sabha despite all the humongous scams.
     
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    Chidambaram (or any other Congressi) will not be sacrificed. In 2G scam, CBI has questioned Arun Shourie and Yeshwant Sinha but not the Minister(s) under whose watch the scam took place!
     
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    The UP elections are just an excuse. No political observer worth his salt is predicting a major role for Congress. It will be in the 4 th place behind BJP. The slugfest will be between the BSP and SP.

    Congress is waiting for the global economic situation to improve, inflation to start easing and then they will make their move. However as we have seen all their calculations seem to be going bonkers.
     
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    Currently UP electorate is among the most caste driven in the country. In last elections, the community/caste votes were as follows -

    BSP - supported by Dalits mainly
    SP - Yadavs, Lodhs (shared with BSP), Other OBCs, Muslims (shared with Congress)
    Congress - Brahmins , Rajputs , Other Upper Castes - shared with BJP taking major portion of these sections; Muslims (shared with SP)
    BJP - Brahmins , Rajputs , Other Upper Castes

    BSP has a virtual lock on Dalit votes so Congress is hoping to cut into SP's Muslim vote bank by offering sops directly aimed at them such as reservation for Muslims, etc. In last Lok Sabha elections Congress had a surprisingly good performance in UP. Let us see how it plays out in Assembly elections. Maybe they will move up from 4th place to 3rd; if so they might gang up with SP to keep out Behen ji and `communal forces` and `serve` the people of Uttar Pradesh!

    The same situation was there in Bihar in Laloo Yadav's heydays with his Yadav-Muslim combine. He had a pretty good run for 15 years during which he turned Bihar into Jungle Raj. UP being largest and among the laggard states in India badly needs some one like Nitish Kumar who will be a good administrator and take all sections of society along.
     
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    What will be the combinations if the state is spit into four?
     
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    No idea...8)! I was hoping someone from UP would come along and shed some light on this topic.
     
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    There is no better alternative than UPA. BJP is no longer a party of principles. I feel it hard to create a clear distinction between the two, neither on political front, nor on social front. Despite all the errors of judgment and arrogance shown by the ruling alliance, NDA and other fronts haven't been able to take a clear benefit. I believe electorate is totally confused, and this confusion will work in favor of Con-Gress.
     
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    Even allies are suffering.
     

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