Riot In China

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I think one of our Chinese posters mentioned that these type of things happen in China and it was no big deal. These protests vary in size and action taken is also varied, as with Tienanmen Square and other ones not so significant.

If I am not wrong there was some problem with a Mayor's son, who did something wrong and the authorities were not taking action. There was a huge protest and the Mayor had to quit office.

Mob mentality prevails worldwide. Whereas in other places, because of human rights activists and democratic processes, these acts of violence simmer, in China, it is put down with a heavy hand so that the negative effects are minimised.

It is a moot point as which way is the right way.

China does things her way and it may not appear hunky dory as far as the international community is concerned, but then China is not too perturbed as to how their affairs are perceived internationally, so long as it is fine domestically.
In fact, it is a big deal in CHina,because it was the first riot that had took place in the my home prefecture since I was born. It was also the first local event that could attract the attention of Beijing and BBC.

The CCP boss of the county was sacked just 3 days after the riot.

According to the later report, what the CCP boss did can hardly be called
"wrong-doings". He just took firm iron hands to stimulate the upgrade of local industry. maybe his way was harsh, but his aim obvioulsy was good .

Anyhow, the local CCP boss in fact was also one victim in the riot,which ruined his bright career future. In fact, many loca still feel sympathy to the unlucky CCP boss ,who got sacked due to the riot.
 
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Riots over alleged murder in Guizhou, China 2008.06.30


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RIOTS AND DEMONSTRATIONS IN CHINA

The right to demonstrate is written in the Chinese constitution but demonstrators are supposed to give five days notice and provide a list of all the participants. Student demonstrations have traditionally been held at the end of the term in December and January.

Most protests are localized and deal with complaints about local issues and are directed at local officials, bosses or employers not Beijing or the system, and they do not present a threat to the Chinese government. Sometimes the government tacitly allows protests to serve its political interests such as ousting a corrupt official.

Protest and riots are called "mass incidents." Once regarded as taboo and still illegal, they occur surpsingly often. In 2005, there were 84,000 recorded mass incidents, more than 200 a day, involving over four million Chinese. They included protests over unpaid wages, taxes, lay offs, land seizures, factory closings, poor working conditions, environmental damages, corruption, misuse of funds, ethnic tensions, use of natural resources, forced immigration and police abuse. Some of them have been quite large and violent.

The number of mass incidents rose from 10,000 with 730,000 participants in 1994 to 74,000 with 3.8 million participants in 2004. In 2000, there were about 40,000 protests, including 230 incidents of mobs laying siege to Communist Party offices in 82 cities, resulting in 5,500 casualties. In 2003 the government admitted to 58,000 incidents. The number of "incidents" was around 23,000 in 2006.

Demonstrations are largely seen as a means of releasing pressure. They have almost become the standard way of dealing with local issues. On a sidewalk on the opposite side of Tiananmen Square from the Great Hall of the People protesters gather to air their grievances.

Cell phones have made it easier for protestors to contact one another and recruit help and support from neighboring villages. They have also made it easier for protestors to communicate with NGOs and lawyers in the cities and get information, advise and legal help.

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Reasons for the Protests and Demonstrations in China


Unrest has taken the form of disaffected ethnic minorities battling police; farmers staging protest to fight dam projects; overworked textile workers organizing strikes; retirees demanding pension payments; laid off workers demanding their jobs back; and villagers blocking road for days and demanding redress over the seizure of land. In most cases the protests are set off by a particular event and are not necessarily oriented towards the party but are sometimes handled as if they were.

Many of the protesters are poor victims of the transition to a market economy who have suffered and have been unable to protect their rights with the protests and riots a release of pent up frustration over things like corruption, police abuse and the unequal distribution of wealth. A porter at the center of riot in Wezhou told the New York Times, "Our society has a short fuse, just waiting for a spark....People can see how corrupt the government is while they barely have enough to eat."

The courts and government agencies are so ineffectual in dealing with problems that villagers and people who have been wronged often have little choice other than to take their cases to the streets. Through the use of cell phones and text messaging rumors and reports of outrageous act can spread rapidly and quickly mobilize a crowd into a mob. Information that is spread this way is often untrue or exaggerates the circumstances and riles people up and into action.

Analysts have suggested that one reason there are so many protests is because there is a lack of unifying movements such as Poland's Solidarity. The result is a lot of small, localized expressions of discontent.

Many of China's problems—the seizure of land from peasants, workers forced to work under sweatshop conditions and factories spewing out pollutants—have their roots in local corruption and abuses by local officials which in turn have their roots in the TVE systems. See local government.

Petitions and Appeals Offices in China

The only real legal recourse for complaints that ordinary people have is to file a petition through the network of petition and appeals offices that were originally set up in the Imperial era, when people were promised an audience with the Emperor, or a member of the imperial court or central bureaucracy if they had a problem. Now they are supposed to get an audience with a Communist Party cadre but that rarely happens.

To file a petition applicants need to secure certain documents, draft the petition and collect signatures or chops or a thumb print from a certain number of people. The papers have to be prepared in a specific way and often need approval from various officials at various steps along the way.

In 2004, 10 million petitions were filled but only 3 out 2,000 people who filed them had their problems resolved. Many petitioners had their cases referred back to officials the petitioners were accusing of wronging them. Petitioners who don't get any response are told they should buy local officials gifts or take them out to dinner. Surveys done in the mid 2000s found that only 0.2 percent of petitioners receive any kind of response and only 0.02 percent of those who used the petition system said it worked.


Obstacles for Petitioners in China


The bureaucrats in the petition offices often employ delay tactics or try to extract bribes. If the petitioners successfully navigate the bureaucracy and submit their petition, they wait while it is reviewed. Sometimes it is reviewed by local officials; sometimes in Beijing. Often nobody looks at it.

Lawyers who have helped farmers fight for their rights within the legal system have been harassed and arrested. In February 2005, the government made it more difficult for peasants to file grievances with the government.

According to Human Rights Watch thousands of Chinese who have petitioned authorities for action on some grievance have been attacked, intimidated and detained. A survey by the group found that local government offices and courts not only routinely ignored the petitions but instead of investigating the grievances they put the petitioners in jail. A few have lost use of limbs due to torture. In Beijing, shanty towns occupied by petitioners have been burned to the ground. In Jilin Province, a woman was shackled, beaten and sentenced to a re-education camp for a year for trying to get compensation she was entitled to from factory, where her husband was injured.

Petitioners and Retrievers in China

Local officials don't like it when their constituents try to petition the central government over some problem they have at home because it makes them look bad. Some hire bounty-hunter-like thugs known as "retrievers" to retrieve the petitioners before the have a chance to petition the government.

The retrievers stake out train stations, petition offices and cheap hotels and set up traps to catch them. When they are caught they are sometimes handcuffed, beaten up, tortured and locked into hotel rooms or even the trunks of cars and brought home.

When they are brought back to their hometown the petitioners are sometimes thrown in jail or a mental hospital. One victim of such tactics told the Los Angeles Times he was slapped around by police and diagnosed with a "mental disorder." He had powerful drugs forced down his throats that he said caused him to have a heart attack. Another said he was tortured with chopstick shoved under his fingernails and a "tiger chair" that bent his knees into a position that nearly broke them.

The retrievers are paid well by Chinese standards. They typically earn a salary of $700 a month plus $250 for every petitioner they capture. One retriever that has done quite well said that his busy season was before major political meetings when he could catch up to 25 petitioners in a week. Some do well by bribing staff at the petitioner's office not to look at cases.

Some retrievers dress like petitioners to blend in and find people by asking them where they from. Even when the person lies the retriever can tell where they are from by their accent. Some petitioners avoid capture by dressing like retrievers and jumping from moving vehicles when they are caught.

Protests and Demonstrations and the Chinese Government

The Chinese government is worried most about localized discontent spreading and coalescing into large-scale opposition to its rule. A report to the Central Committee in 2004 urged local officials to give the issue attention because "the life and death of the party" was at stake.

The Communist Party has blamed the unrest on subversives and foreign agents but has acknowledged that at least some of the protest have emerged to address legitimate grievances.

The Chinese government has ruled out democratic reform as an option and instead has chosen to exert more influence on local leaders, making them more accountable for their actions.

Beijing has approached each protest on a case by case basis addressing demands in some cases and cracking down on others or using a combination of both approaches.

The government has tried to control information by restricting access and censoring the news but has been unable to stop the flow of information through the Internet and cell phones,

The government provide more generous social services to urban areas than to the countryside in part because it fears urban social unrest, which can become organized, spread and gain momentum and present a real threat to the government. By contrast rural unrest tends to be fragmented, scattered and easier to contain once its gets started.

Protests, the Internet and Text Messaging in China

When some news events happen, such as a large protest, coverage on television and in the press are blocked by the government while accounts and pictures quickly make their way to the Internet and are circulated on chat lines and forums. The government often tries hard to stop it but there are simply too many sites and ways to avoid censorship and there is no way the government can control all the Internet.

Websites and blogs were vital in disseminating information about SARS, the Harbin benzene spill and protests and riots. Once an issue finds an audience on Internet it can take on life of its own, generating huge interest, and sometimes forcing the government to act and change its policy. Coverage of the beating of college graduate in Guangzhou in 2003 and 2004, for example, led to reform of China's detainment centers. An outcry over the leniency given a notorious gangsters resulted in the gangster being retried by the Supreme Court and executed. As of early 2006 there were an estimated 4 million to 16 million bloggers in China.

Text Messages Shut Down a $1.6 Billion Chemical Plant

The construction of a $1.4 billion chemical factory in Xiamen was halted after citizens there launched a successful text messaging campaign. Widely-distributed messages used inflammatory language comparing the chemicals produced at the plant to nuclear bomb material and warned of leukemia and birth defects. The messages reached more than 1 million cell phones and reached nearly all of Xiamen's 1.5 million residents through cell phone, word of mouth or messages painted on building walls.

Environmentalist posted the first messages on the Internet. In addition to raising fears about the chemicals themselves they also pointed out that the plant was built near a densely populated area and could damage the city's tourism industry. As Internet sites were closed down, reports started showing up newspapers outside of Xiamen.

Angry messages about the chemical factory were removed from the Internet but the text messages were so widely disseminated using the short message system (SMS) from so many sources at so many different times the government was helpless to do anything about it. One blogger wrote "SMS is a widely used communications method, more than the Internet. Only a certain amount of people use the Internet, but almost everyone has a cell phone."

Chinese authorities have technology to monitor cell phone messages and track their sources. They they tried to block message in Xiamen but when people send out messages to their friends and family members and they in turn send messages to more people information spreads in exponential fashion and is difficult to stop.

Once the text message campaign gained momentum it took on a life of its own. In early June 2007, demonstrations with 10,000 participants were held and Xiamen began getting nationwide coverage. Everyone was caught by surprise when the city announced construction of the chemical factory would be stopped. Many felt that was perhaps most significant about the protest was that people were not afraid to speak out even though they knew their messages could tracked.

In December 2007, a public hearing on the plant was held and public opinion was almost unanimously against it. The plant has not been officially canceled but there are no plans to resume construction anytime soon.


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Major Protests and Demonstrations in China

See: 1) Hui, Minorities; 2) Protests Against Corruption, Corruption; 3) Tax Revolts, Local Government and Taxes; 4) Labor Revolts. Labor; Economics; 5) Farmer Revolts, Agriculture; 6) AIDS, Health, Government; 6) Elections, Government; 7) Protests Against Dams, Environmental Protests; Environmental Movement, Nature

Mainland Chinese sometimes stage protests in Hong Kong. See Hong Kong

Riots in China

Riots have broken out for all kinds of reasons. In November 2004, a toll both became the site of riot in Guangdong after a woman said she was overcharged to use the bridge.

In June 2005, riots and looting broke out in Chizhou in Anhui Province, 250 mile southeast of Shanghai, after a collision between a bicycle ridden a 22-year-old student and Toyota sedan carrying a powerful hospital manager. No one was hurt in the collision but an argument ensued as to who was fault. Because the students reportedly damaged a side view mirror on the car he was beaten to a pulp by the manager's body guards. Witnesses began spreading word of what happened and people began gathering the streets and a riot broke out.

During eight hours of mayhem police cars were set on fire, paramilitary troops were pelted with stones and a supermarket was looted. The hospital manager, Wu Junxing, was taken to a police substation, where a mob formed. The mob regarded Wu as a typical corrupt official and were particularly outraged by his arrogant, cavalier attitude (in one episode he reportedly dismissed the local police as bumpkins) and demanded justice. While Wu was in the substation the mob torched his sedan.

In December 2004, huge riots broke out in a village of migratory workers in Guangdong Province southern China after police allegedly beat to death a 15-year-old migrant accused of stealing a bicycle. Hong Kong newspapers reported that more than 50,000 migrant participated in the riot.

In December 2004, seven people were killed and dozens were injured in a riot in Da Lang village in Guangdong Province southern China after police allegedly beat to death a relative of a student injured in traffic accident, following a dispute over compensation.

In November 2004, two police officers were killed in Wanrong County in Shanxi Province when enraged construction workers attacked a police station after a traffic dispute.

In July 2004, a suicide bomber killed himself and a local official over inadequate compensation for land appropriation in the Yi Autonomous County of Ebian.

Riots in Wenzhou

In October 2004, a poor porter carrying a bag on a sidewalk in the city of Wenzhou accidently brushed up against a woman, leaving a small amount of mud on here paints leg. Words were exchanged The husband of the women began to push the porter around. After saying he was a high-ranking official the man began beating the porter with a stick and threatened to kill him. By this time a crowd had gather and word began to spread about what was happening.

A mob quickly formed in Wenzhou's city square. It didn't matter that the man was not really a government official ( he was fruit salesmen). By nightfall tens of thousands of people were in the square. The city hall and a police van were set on fire and vehicles belonging to government officials were pummeled. A taxi driver told the New York Times, "the loss of control happened instantly. Suddenly the police were nobody and the people were in charge." Rioting lasted until midnight and had largely broken up on its own before paramilitary troops arrived at around 3:00am.

The porter told the New York Times that the man called him a bumpkin and he responded by saying "I work like this so that my daughter and son can dress better than I do, so don't look down on me. I sell my strength just as a prostitute sells her body." The women's husband took offense to this remark. The woman began slapping the porter and her husband began beating him on the legs and back with a pole until he collapsed on the ground.

Riots in Dongzhou

In December 2005, at least three demonstrators—and maybe as many as 20—were shot and killed in Dongzhou, Guangdong Province. The demonstrators had blocked a highway. They were angry about compensation of only $3 per family for land confiscated from them to build a coal-fired power plant and wind-power turbines and develop a lake essential for the town's feng shui. According to Chinese government sources a "chaotic mob" began throwing Molotov cocktails, fireworks, and blasting caps at police who were forced to "open fire in alarm." The government blamed the demonstrators for the incident but at least one police official was punished. Fifty Chinese scholars called for an official inquiry on the Internet.

The Dongzhou protest may be the most deadly incident since Tiananmen Square. It was also significant in that the protestors were enraged enough to hurl explosives at police. One resident of Dongzhou told the New York Times, "From about 7 p.m. the police started firing tear gas into the crowds, but this failed to scare people. Later we heard more than 10 explosions and thought they were just detonators, so nobody was scared. At about 8 p.m. they started using guns, shooting bullets into the ground, but not really targeting anybody. Finally at about 10 p.m. they started killing people."

Another resident told the New York Times, "I live not far from the scene, and I was running as fast as I could. I dragged one of the people killed, a man in his 30s who was shot in the chest. Initially I thought he might survive, because he was still breathing, but he was panting heavily, and as soon as I pulled him aside, he died." Another said, "there were seven or eight bodies killed by a spray of gunfire that fell into ditch. The next day going up along the ditch deep into the grass villagers found the dead bodies. Some of the dead were shot from distance first and then finished off at close range.."

Afterwards the government engaged in thorough cover up of the event to make sure information about it didn't leak out, The entire town was cordoned off with police road blocks and patrols. House to house searches were conducted. People were hauled away for interrogation. Announcements were blasted from loudspeakers to obey the government. Residents said in telephone interviews that security forces rewarded them with bribes if they cooperated and beat them if the told their story to regional or national officials. There were also reports of corpses being withheld presumably because they were so riddled with bullets their presence would contradict the government's version of the events. Families of the dead were rewarded with cash payments of about $15,000 if they said their loved ones died from explosions caused by bombs hurled by protesters rather than gunfire from police.

Riots in China in 2007


In July 2007, riot police clashed with protestors that besieged government offices in Chongqing's Youyang County after the family protesting the death their son—a student stabbed to death in school—was rouged up outside government offices.

In June 2007, hundreds of students from universities in Zhengzhou, Henan Province battled police and burned cars after street inspectors beat up a female student. It was not clear why the female student was beat up. Students protests have been rare since Tiananmen square.

Riots in 2008

In July 2008, two people were killed in Menglian county in Yunnan Province when 500 to 1000 Dai rubber growers armed with knives attacked police, injuring 41 officers and damaging eight police cars. Menglian county has a large minority population. The protesters were angry with a local rubber firm over the sale of their crops.

In September 2008, riots broke out in Jishou, Hunan Province over a banned investment scheme. Residents and security forces clashed for two days with protestors blocking roads and railroads after an illegal fund-raising company endorsed by the government failed to pay inventors back as promised

In November 2008, thousands of people attacked a police station, overturning and burning a police car, in the southern city of Shenzhen after a 31-year-old motorcyclist was killed driving through a police checkpoint.

Many of the protesters in Xiamen where middle class

In February 2008, three people set themselves on fire in Beijing over what police described at desperate attempt to draw attention to their "personal complaints."

Train Protest in Shanghai

The protests in Shanghai over the construction of a maglev train through a residential area were unusual in that they were large, fairly well organized and embraced many middle-class people. The protestors organized and spread the world of their protests by handing out flyers with word like "electromagnetic comparability"; making well-researched PowerPoint presentations; posting photos and information about police positions on the Internet, and whispering to supporters, "Do you know that we're going to take a stroll this weekend?" The "strolls" were made up of thousands of office workers, company managers, young families and elderly people.

Protesters were protesting the trains bringing noise, vibrations and radiation to their neighborhoods. They gathered in one area, shouting slogans like "Reject the maglev!" and "Protect our homes!" and broke up after an hour or so and regrouped at another location. First they gather near the train, later they met at well kwon places in Shanghai, including some places where tourists gathered. The police felt a little intimidated and had trouble cracking down on the protesters because they were affluent and educated.

It is unlikely that the maglev will be scrapped but officials did make some concessions: the section to Hangzhou was scrapped; one section was rerouted two mile to avoid a residential area; and another section will be built underground.

Toy Factory Protest in China

In November 2008, hundreds of workers laid off from the Kai Da toy company rioted in Dongguan, Guangdong Province over a dispute about severance pay. They protesters clashed with police and attacked the offices of a toy factory executive. The Guangzhou Daily reported: Rioters "smashed one police vehicle and four police patrol cars...fought with security guards...and entered factory offices, broke windows and destroying equipment."

A 36-year-old machinist told the Los Angeles Times, "We saw the police beating five workers with sticks, several of them unconscious...Then many workers rushed out and surrounded them, Later there were thousands of people there. They smashed police cars, doors and computers." After the protests workers received about $900 in severance pay.

Wengan Protest

In July 2008, riots broke out in a town in Wengan County in Guizhou Province in southwestern China over the death of a teenage girl, the involvement of a son of a an official in the death and a police cover up. More an 30,000 people took to the streets, torching police cars and government offices. Local people believed the 17-year-old girl, Li Shufen, whose body was pulled from a river in late June, was raped and murdered. The police reported that she had drowned after committing suicide by jumping into a river.

After the initial protests large numbers of security forces were ordered to enter the town. Paramilitary police lined the streets; loudspeakers blasted messages for suspected rioter to turn themselves in. Over 300 people were detained, 100 were put under "criminal detention," including 39 gang members.

Wengan has a reputation of being a troubled town fill with corruption, unchecked criminal gangs, bombing attacks and public resentment towards the police over unsolved crimes and harsh crackdowns over dam resettlements, disputed mines and forced home removals. There had been attacks on government offices and confrontations with police before. Many feel the incident with the girls was simply what unpopped the cork for a big "mass incident."

The father of the girl tried to petition for help in the provincial capital and once was badly beaten up by thugs after a confrontation with police. According to police the victim was last seen with a female classmate and two men. A local official said, "the incident was instigated by a few people who had ulterior motives or even by some evil forces." The police initially said they would reopen the investigation of the death the said the son of the official was not involve and no rape had occurred

Authorities initially tried to suppress news about the protests. But a number io cell phone camera shots and videos that showed police firing rubber bullets and badly beaten teenagers appeared on YouTube and other Internet sites making it hard to cover up the events.

In November 2008, two men were given prison sentences of 15 and 16 years for arson and attracting local government offices and four others were given sentences between two years and seven years for attacking state authorities and disturbing social order in connection with the Wengan riots
 

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Riot in Gansu

In November 2008, a crowd of about 1,000 people attacked government petition office in Longnan, Gansu Province in northwest China, smashing cars and clashing with police. YourTube footage showed police trying to restore order while being pelted with stones.

The protest involved more than 10,000 people. A core group of 30, angry about the loss of their homes in a resettlement scheme, were joined by hundreds of others outside the petition office. A hotel owner told Reuters, "There were only a few thousand petitioners, but police fired tear gas, which made women and children sick. This made the others angry."

According to statement on the Longnan city website: the petitioners "were provoked by a small minority of people with ulterior motives" The office's "staff and police were beaten by some criminals, leading to the injury of more than 60 officials, police and people."

Riots in China in 2009

In June 2009, violent protest brokes out in Shishou city in Hubei Province after a man's suspicious death in a government-linked hotel. More than 10,000 people were involved, with some of them clashing with police. There were reports of fires, damage to police vehicles and demonstrators striking police. The victim, a 24-year-old chef named Tu Yungao, was found dead outside the hotel after he fell from the third floor. His death was blamed on gangster or the owner of the hotel, who is friendly with the city's mayor. The family of the victim was given $44,000 in compensation.

In August 2009, an executive was beaten to death and over a 100 hundred people were injured at a protest by 30,000 steel workers outside the Tonghua Iron and Steel plant over a planned merger deal that would leave many workers without jobs. The executive a killed by workers over resentment that he earned $440,000 a year while some workers earned as little $35 a month. Protesters prevented an ambulance from entering the plant to help the executive.

Showing Restraint at Demonstrations in China

In November 2008, police were given orders to avoid inflaming riots. The Minister of Public Security issued a statement saying, "In handling mass incidents we must be clear that the chief aims of the public security authorities are to maintain order on the scene, ease conflicts avoid excessive steps and prevent the situation getting out of control."

The statement was partly an effort to address to vehemence of the Wengan riot. After that the Chinese government vowed to crackdown on public officials who caused mass unrest by mishandling public complaints. According to a statement issued in July 2008, officials who "gravely harm the public's interests, sparking major problems in petitioning or mass incidents" face demerits, demotion of dismissal. This was seen by some as a gesture to put on a good face before the Olympics.

Cracking Down on Protests and Demonstrations in China

Many of the riots and demonstrations end with large numbers of security forces being called in. The police round up a few dozen people accused of being leaders and declare tat order has been restored.

Police use rubber bullets and tear gas and occasionally electrified truncheons that resemble cattle prods. To disrupt protesters at Tiananmen Square water trucks have sprayed the square with water turned it into a large sheet of ice. Rarely is anyone killed. But that doesn't the police are not rough. The paramilitary police that are called in have a reputation for being very fierce. One man involved in a protest told the New York Times, "They beat you even if you kneel down before them."

Protest leaders have been sent to labour camps for organizing illegal demonstration against market reforms, corruption and the failure of the state to support workers and farmers it has pledged to serve. In recent years some hardline Communists have been sent to these camps

In July 2005, a front page editorial in the People's Daily addressing a recent wave of protest told Chinese citizens to obey the laws and and warned that threats to social stability would not be tolerated. "Protecting stability comes before al else," the editorial cautioned. "Any behavior that wrecks stability and challenges the law will directly damage the people's fundamental interests."

In January 2007, China's top security officials said that local unrest is a serious problem that should be handled locally.

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Badguy,

So, it is a big deal for the people.

But so big deal about it for the CCP?

It happens!

I hope the above posts of mine will clear the silver filigree of cobwebs spun to make it look real cool and calm!
 
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Once the text message campaign gained momentum it took on a life of its own. In early June 2007, demonstrations with 10,000 participants were held and Xiamen began getting nationwide coverage. Everyone was caught by surprise when the city announced construction of the chemical factory would be stopped. Many felt that was perhaps most significant about the protest was that people were not afraid to speak out even though they knew their messages could tracked.
finally the PX factory had to be relocated to somewhere remote.

there're always such confrontations, inevitable like air or water. The way out is allowing people to voice their opinions or vent their anger, within the framework of 'law and order'. CCP has to reinnovate itself with more freedom and democracy, in face of interest conflicts across strata or different priorities, or concerns or civil rights...

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It happened on September 7 when local Muslims protested the encroachment by the Puja Pandal inside the cemetery. The local police under Deganga Police Station came and lathi-charged the local Muslim population and even arrested many. The miscreants from the other community taking advantage of the Police bias towards the Muslim community, went about looting shops belonging to the Muslim community and even beat up some Muslims.
In early January farmers and protestors in the Indian state of West Bengal clashed with police to prevent the acquisition of farmland in Nandigram, a sleepy riverside region 150km from Kolkata (Calcutta), the state capital. Some hired goons opened fire on the crowd and a dozen died. In reaction, protests and riots sprang up all over West Bengal. Buses were burnt, schools closed and traffic ground to a halt. Nearly 1,000 were arrested, but the rioting went on. It stopped only after Buddhadeb Bhattacharya, the Chief Minister of West Bengal, symbolically tore up the acquisition notice and put a three-month stop to all land acquisition.

Liem, though not physically present, was in the eye of the maelstrom. In July 2006, his Salim Group signed an agreement with Bhattacharya for what is called the biggest FDI, or foreign direct investment, deal in the history of India. Salim will invest some US$4.2 billion in West Bengal to build a chemical hub in a special economic zone, a large and a few small townships, a 100-km-long, 100-m-wide super highway and other projects. In return, the Bhattacharya administration would give them close to 40,000 acres of land, most to be acquired from farmers and other landowners.

The chemical hub is to be built in Nandigram, across the Haldi River from the industrial city of Haldia. Salim requires some 15,000 acres of land, which will be taken from 29 mouzas (villages). It was the acquisition of land in Nandigram that sparked the bloodshed.

West Bengal, ironically, is ruled by the Communist Party of India. But Bhattacharya, who succeeded his mentor Jyoti Basu in November 2000, is keen to open the dirt-poor state to investors. His embrace of big business — one of the tycoons is Ratan Tata who agreed to build a large car plant there — has upset many of his left wing allies. It also turned land acquisition into the hottest political potato in the Bengali parliament.

The Salim incident gave the opposition the perfect foil to attack Bhattacharya. They have the backing of the farmers and small landowners, people Bhattacharya is supposed to represent but who are increasingly voting against him. Bhattacharya's enemies claim the West Bengal government is forcibly taking productive farmland — which yields two or more crops a year — from the farmers and giving very little in return. They now proclaim the Salim project is dead.
 
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Yes, there are communal violence in India.

But then it is not hidden under the wraps and one does not have to ferret out such information. It is there in the open and one does not have to bank on tourists and foreign intelligence agencies to highlight it!!

It is reported widely in the Indian media and then the court drags the issue endlessly and all is pushed in the background of memory.

What happens in China is known these days through painstaking ferreting of information. However, in comparison, under Mao, how many of the riots have been reported by the foreign media? Whatever little that comes out of China is from the foreign media and is promptly dubbed as BBC and CNN hooliganism!

And how many actually the foreign media can ferret out in China? They are immediately banned from visiting the area of the riot. Tibet and Xingjian are cases in point.

BTW, the riots mentioned in my posts are incorrect? If so, do give us the correct version.

After all, how long will blogger Jessica survive?

Another point to note is that most of the violence, communal or otherwise, is generated by, what is called in our country as, vote bank politics. Therefore, it need not be the Vox populi, vox Dei.

In China, there are NO votes or adult franchise and so there is NO vote bank politics to be played and anyway there is just the CCP! Therefore, the riots are a real reflection of the people. In other words, Vox populi, Vox Dei!!

That is the difference.


Check the Distorted history of Pakistan thread.

Najma Sethi, who otherwise is an India basher, laments that while all Indians proudly claim to be Indians inspite of all the warts and boils, there is no such feeling in Pakistan.

In fact, Pakistani and Bangladeshi restaurants all over the world label themselves as 'Indian Restaurants'!!

In fact, check all the videos of the thread and you will find how Pakistan manufactured their history and how they started the wars, which they claim that India did. A rather unusual admission by one of the leading newspaper editors and columnist of Pakistan!


Notwithstanding, I do appreciate your anger and anguish that the posts have given you wherein the posters here are able to grasp the facts in China that are normally lost upon the memory as they are not publicised adequately and only catches the eye of a niche audience, when and if they are reported!

And whatever gets reported is brushed perfunctorily as CNN and BBC 'hooliganism'!
 
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Just to add to the above list that I have appended in the five or six posts of mine above.

Some more details.

Tens of thousands of Chinese fight the police in Shishou

It was a dramatic weekend in the relatively small city of Shishou in Hubei province.

Tens of thousands of rioters torched a hotel and overturned police cars, accusing the authorities of trying to cover up the murder of a 24-year-old man as a suicide.....

A huge mob, of anywhere between a few thousand to 70,000 people, depending on which report you read, quickly gathered outside the building to protect the body. Tu's parents refused to let his corpse be taken away, claiming that it held vital evidence of the crime, and instead placed it inside the hotel on ice.

The crowd beat back waves of policemen. On Saturday, someone lit a fire inside the hotel, possibly to destroy the body, but it was saved.....

More at:

Some details of Riots at Shishou
Since OHimalaya mentioned communal violence, let us not forget the Muslim and Buddhist COMMUNAL violence in CHINA that were brutally crushed underfoot.

Also:

China: Prostitution fears spark riot in Muslim area

Read more: China: Prostitution fears spark riot in Muslim area - The Times of India Muslim riot

And also this at Henan.

Ethnic Tensions Smolder in China
Government blocks foreign journalists from reporting on Han-Hui riot


The silence in this dusty brick-making town seems idyllic. But it's really the calm after a storm—a storm that residents fear will soon return.

"Everyone here's gone mad. "¦ people who used to live together now want to kill each other," says a local restaurant owner who would give his name only as Mr. Ma. "I'm worried that when the police leave the fighting will start again."

On October 28, this small village of about 1500 Han Chinese and 500 Hui Muslims in China's central Henan province exploded into violence after a minor altercation between members of the two communities.

Little has been reported on the flare-up. The government is determined to suppress news of the riot because "it wants to preserve the image that all minorities live happily in China," says Ma. While more than 90 percent of China is Han, the country has more than 50 ethnic minorities, including different Muslim groups, Tibetans, Koreans and Mongolians.
A small spark

Ma, a Hui, said the violence broke out after a Hui man was attacked by Han locals. Han Chinese in the area say the man was beaten after he knocked down a Han girl with his vehicle and refused to pay compensation.

Fighting between the two communities raged for hours, Ma says, leaving more than 100 dead, more than 400 injured, and several houses and vehicles burned.

Word of the riot spread quickly in the region, threatening to draw thousands more into the frenzy, thanks to the cell phones and computers proliferating even in rural China.

"Thousands of [Han] people surrounded [Nanren village] with bulldozers and tractors and wanted to smash all the Hui houses," says Zhujian Jun, 32, a carpenter in Zhongmou, a town about 20 miles south of Nanren.

In Ji Yuan, about 80 miles to the west, "thousands of Hui people were getting into trucks to go join the fight," says Yuan Peng, a Hui man in Ji Yuan. Rumors also spread about a planeload of Huis flying in from the northern province of Ningxia, an officially designated Hui autonomous region, where about 2 million of China's 8.2 million Hui live.

Local authorities moved quickly to quell the violence, but it was so ferocious that at least 15 policemen were killed before officials called in special paramilitary troops, sources say.
Contained rage

Now surveillance vans still patrol the area and a large blue sign assures locals that a special detachment of the police is working to clear up the problem.

That's the most public concession that anything is amiss here.

Chinese media have hardly reported the violence, and foreign journalists are still banned from entering the area. Those caught trying are detained by authorities. Local residents have also been explicitly warned against talking to journalists, Ma says, to explain why he kept glancing out at the street as he spoke.

With the area isolated from the outside and the government seen to be sweeping things under the carpet, both Han and Hui communities in the area continue to seethe.

"We're good Muslims but the Han people don't understand us," says Yuan Zong Qing, a truck driver in Ji Yuan. "They have complicated ways and try to impose this on us. Our children cannot learn the Koran in school, and it's hard for them to even observe Ramadan. Some [Han Chinese] offer us pork and intimidate us and pressure us to keep Chinese names." Yuan prefers to call himself by his Arab name, Mohammad Dawood.

In Zhongmou, a Han carpenter named Wang Tong Bin says he's "always hated" the Hui because they're "arrogant, aggressive and clannish. They have this group mentality, so if one Han person offends a Hui person, a lot of Hui will collect to take revenge."
Rising resentment

Such bitterness, prejudice and anger is grinding away at China's steadily fraying social fabric. Almost 60,000 protests occurred around the country last year, the government says, more than five times the number that occurred a decade ago. Given local governments' reticence in reporting such information, the real number could well be higher.

For example, there was a Hui-Han riot in Zhongmou just this summer, says Wang Chao, a retired Han mill worker in the town.

"The city hasn't recovered yet," he says from the back seat of his car, the only place he agreed to speak. "Just look around you. All the Hui restaurants are empty because people aren't supporting their businesses."

Many of the Han taxi drivers and hawkers in the town, who work late into the night, say their wives now insist on coming to work with them, for fear of Hui reprisals.

Such unrest is rooted in an increasing alienation amongst people who feel sidelined by the government's single-minded pursuit of economic growth and the resultant increase in inequality, autocracy and corruption, says Jiang Yang, 42, a business executive in Beijing.

"In this hostile, strained environment it's only natural that ethnic relations will also decay," Jiang says. "Today Chinese people have nothing to believe in. "¦ some are reaching for religion and some have made money their God."
Money, faith and fairness

Indeed, money and faith appear to be the primary causes of Hui-Han tensions.

The Chinese government has long tried to mollify its potentially restive minorities with sops such as jobs preferences and other affirmative action-type schemes. But with unemployment rising, particularly in the rural central and western provinces, the Han majority is increasingly resentful.

"Everyone should be equal in our society," says Wang, the carpenter. "If the Hui are really as superior to us as they claim why do they need extra things from the government?"

Ma scoffed at the idea that the Hui received any real benefits from the government. "If that's so, why are all the men inside the vans Han and not Hui?" he asks, pointing to the street outside where police surveillance vans trawl the streets looking for troublemakers.

Hui men often complain that they and other Muslim minorities have few "real jobs," and are limited to owning restaurants in the local "minority street," where they serve patrons piping-hot kebobs and flaky nan bread.

But there is no doubt the Hui now enjoy far more religious freedom than they did in the first decades of Communist rule, when the Party repressed practice of all faiths.

"People [now] come in droves to pray five times a day "¦ and we are even getting new converts," says Lu Da Zhe An, a cleric at the newly built Arabian-style mosque in Shui Yun, a Hui village not far from Nanren.

Ironically this relatively greater religious freedom is also heightening differences between Han and Hui, says Mai Bao Guang, a local butcher in Shui Yun. He, like many Hui, has recently taken to wearing a beard and an Arabic-style white prayer hat.

According to Mai, such increased devoutness and the Huis' tendency to congregate in and around mosques has made them seem even more clannish to many Han Chinese.
Struggling with civic structures

Such social tensions, in combination with other political unrest, are ringing alarm bells in the corridors of power where "maintaining social stability" is the holiest of official mantras—not surprising in a nation almost destroyed by social tumult during the last century.

Alarmed Communist Party of China elders have responded the only way they know—by directing officials to be more responsive and considerate in their governance.

But Chinese and foreign political analysts in Beijing say that's not enough. Since the Chinese government has only recently withdrawn from many spheres of public life, Chinese society hasn't really had a chance to learn how to manage competing social interests. So the grassroots mechanisms that open societies rely on to sort out similar ethnic or social tensions must be given time and support to develop, says Chen Xin, a professor of sociology at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

From the back of his car Wang, the mill worker, says his life seems to be gradually spinning outside the government's, and his, control. "I have a Hui friend and we used to eat and go out together," he says. "Now I'm not sure if I can. I don't want things to change, but I can't help it if they do."

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All I am trying to say is that modern life and its competitiveness bring in a whole lot of stress and it finds space in the most odd areas of life!

Nothing to hide and brush under the carpet and pretend that one is living in Paradise!

It was said that Han and Hui were like Nathu Singh and Prem Singh - both the same thing.

If so, why this Han Hui riots?
 
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China has many good stories on Morals.

One of my favourite is:

The Frog in the Well

There was a frog that lived in a shallow well.

" Look how well off I am here ! " he told a big turtle from the Eastern Ocean. " I can hop along the coping of the well when I go out, and rest by a crevice in the bricks on my return. I can wallow to my heart's content with only my head above water, or stroll ankle deep through soft mud. No crabs or tadpoles can compare with me. I am master of the water and lord of this shallow well, What more can a fellow ask ? Why don't you come here more often to have a good time ? "

Before the turtle from the Eastern Ocean could get his left foot into the well, however, he caught his right calw on something. So he halted and stepped back then began to describe the ocean to the frog.

" It's more than a thousand miles across and more than ten thousand feet deep. In ancient times there were floods nine years out of ten yet the water in the ocean never increased.

And later there were droughts seven years out of eight yet the water in the ocean never grew less. It has remained quite constant throughtout the ages. That is why I like to live in the Eastern Ocean. "


Then the frog in the shallow well was silent and felt a little abashed.

Frog in the Well

In case you are interested in reading Ancient Chinese Stories and they are very good, go to;
http://www.englishdaily626.com/stories.php?105

On the right is a Stories button.

There is also a button for 'American slang expressions'.

Chinese, being practical people, go for it as far as Americanism is concerned and not English English, though there is one of Proverbs too, but the articles are missing!
 
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Yes, there are communal violence in India.

But then it is not hidden under the wraps and one does not have to ferret out such information. It is there in the open and one does not have to bank on tourists and foreign intelligence agencies to highlight it!!

It is reported widely in the Indian media and then the court drags the issue endlessly and all is pushed in the background of memory.

What happens in China is known these days through painstaking ferreting of information. However, in comparison, under Mao, how many of the riots have been reported by the foreign media? Whatever little that comes out of China is from the foreign media and is promptly dubbed as BBC and CNN hooliganism!

And how many actually the foreign media can ferret out in China? They are immediately banned from visiting the area of the riot. Tibet and Xingjian are cases in point.

BTW, the riots mentioned in my posts are incorrect? If so, do give us the correct version.

After all, how long will blogger Jessica survive?

Another point to note is that most of the violence, communal or otherwise, is generated by, what is called in our country as, vote bank politics. Therefore, it need not be the Vox populi, vox Dei.

In China, there are NO votes or adult franchise and so there is NO vote bank politics to be played and anyway there is just the CCP! Therefore, the riots are a real reflection of the people. In other words, Vox populi, Vox Dei!!

That is the difference.


Check the Distorted history of Pakistan thread.

Najma Sethi, who otherwise is an India basher, laments that while all Indians proudly claim to be Indians inspite of all the warts and boils, there is no such feeling in Pakistan.

In fact, Pakistani and Bangladeshi restaurants all over the world label themselves as 'Indian Restaurants'!!

In fact, check all the videos of the thread and you will find how Pakistan manufactured their history and how they started the wars, which they claim that India did. A rather unusual admission by one of the leading newspaper editors and columnist of Pakistan!


Notwithstanding, I do appreciate your anger and anguish that the posts have given you wherein the posters here are able to grasp the facts in China that are normally lost upon the memory as they are not publicised adequately and only catches the eye of a niche audience, when and if they are reported!

And whatever gets reported is brushed perfunctorily as CNN and BBC 'hooliganism'!
hehe,
in fact, in CHina today, when cyber tech has penentrated into the lonest corner of the country, it is almost impossible to " hidden it under the wrap" .

for example,almost at that same time the riot took place in my home county last year, the news and related information was posted widely in Chinese private forums. then its attracted the attention from Beijing and west medias,and CCTV,BBC and CNN all reported it soon.

Of course, if internet had not be so popular in China, the case would be different and it would be "hidden under wrap" by local government. So, to some extent, the internent not only change the economy of the China,but also change the media freedom of CHina.

BTW, I hope that it won't be looked on as insults by Indians here,which is that people all over the world are already used to the chaos in India.
So, if one accident or riot take place in India ,even if it hurts/kills many people , west medias usually don't pay much attention to it and don't think it news-worthy.

However, if one accident or riot took place in China, even if it just hurt/kill one dozen people ,west medias always broadcast it as excitedly as flyes find stinks. it is because that west medias always take it granted that any "bad" in CHina is most news-worthy!
 
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Guessed why the Internet became popular in China?

A closed society goes bonkers with a breath of fresh of air!

And guess what?

Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China is conducted under a wide variety of laws and administrative regulations. There are no specific laws or regulations which the censorship follows. In accordance with these laws, more than sixty Internet regulations have been made by the People's Republic of China (PRC) government, and censorship systems are vigorously implemented by provincial branches of state-owned ISPs, business companies, and organizations.

The censorship is not applied in Hong Kong and Macau, as they are special entities recognized by international treaty vested with independent judicial power and not subject to most laws of the PRC, including those requiring the restriction of free flow of information.

The escalation of the government's effort to neutralize critical online opinion comes after a series of large anti-Japanese, anti-pollution, anti-corruption protests, and ethnic riots, many of which were organized or publicized using instant messaging services, chat rooms, and text messages. The size of the Internet police is rumoured at more than 50,000. Critical comments appearing on Internet forums, blogs, and major portals such as Sohu and Sina usually are erased within minutes.

The apparatus of the PRC's Internet repression is considered more extensive and more advanced than in any other country in the world. The regime not only blocks website content but also monitors the Internet access of individuals. Amnesty International notes that China "has the largest recorded number of imprisoned journalists and cyber-dissidents in the world." The offences of which they are accused include communicating with groups abroad, opposing the persecution of the Falun Gong, signing online petitions, and calling for reform and an end to corruption.

Don't believe me.

Ask Google!

It is true that India is chaotic, but then through that chaos breeds the breath of freedom in thought, deed and action that cannot be governed by the Govt through dubious laws and regulations as it is feasible in China.

Google allows in India a whole lot of what in China would be taken as 'subversive', but then the Indian Govt is too solid in foundation to be running scared and censor things as it is done in some countries, which keeps their citizens in a manner that they respond like Pavlovian conditioned dogs.
 
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That could be true.

The Chinese listen to the CCP and are beholden to them for giving them the 'peaceful' environment, where they can practice their favourite game - making a quick buck uber alles issues of life and death or morality!
I can understand why the people are so frustrated. They can't go to court and get an injunction, the media won't cover it, the government ignores their pleas. They can't even vent on the internet without censors erasing it. It is a powder keg waiting to go off.
 

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I can understand why the people are so frustrated. They can't go to court and get an injunction, the media won't cover it, the government ignores their pleas. They can't even vent on the internet without censors erasing it. It is a powder keg waiting to go off.
That is quite an accurate metaphor in despite of the unnecessary exaggeration in the post.

The absence of effective channels for the common people to express their pleas and vent their angers lead to these violent incidents. That is their last resort, i can understand why people can be so furious that they have to act in such an extreme way.
 
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