Right to Education

[Yusuf]

Donation rates and fees will go up. Modern day robin hood policy.

 

[Blackwater]

WTF bull shit is this.

they will subject to more bully and discrimination from rich boys..do u think rich boys will accept poor boys

 

[Yusuf]

WTF bull shit is this.

they will subject to more bully and discrimination from rich boys..do u think rich boys will accept poor boys

The problem is not rich and poor. The problem is, the burden on providing free education so far is on the school. They will obviously hike fees.

 

[Adux]

Its not about rich people abusing poor, or not. Quit stereotyping, we are all rich in front of India's poorest.

It is about sanctity of a private property, private schools are private, it is akin to the government ordering you to take care of your neighbor because you have money. They have no right to do so. This is especially harmful to schools run by Hindus, because minorities will/ or is already made exempt from this.

 

[Adux]

The problem is not rich and poor. The problem is, the burden on providing free education so far is on the school. They will obviously hike fees.

This will hit private schools especially in tier 2 and tier 3 cities, where the infrastructure capital is high but the fee's are still below 1000/month. or below, unlike in the metros. This will stop more CBSE schools coming up, since it will become unviable.

 

[Bachchu Yadav]

The problem is not rich and poor. The problem is, the burden on providing free education so far is on the school. They will obviously hike fees.

Dear Yusuf, Government has already announced that Fee of those 25% will be reimbursed by the government ! PEACE !

 

[Adux]

Dear Yusuf, Government has already announced that Fee of those 25% will be reimbursed by the government ! PEACE !

Isnt that very nice to hear? Do you know what that amount is.

It is the per child expenditure incurred by the State (if it is Kerala etc etc), that should work out Rs.170/month.

 

[Yusuf]

Ok the central an state government is going to bear charges 65:35. But I saw on news yesreday that some schools in AP have approached SC for revision as they said they had to pay for the poor students.

Conflicting stuff. Best up is that poor students are going to be selected by lottery. BIG opening for corruption.

These seats can be sold and documents fudged.

 

[Yusuf]

Actually what also has to be seen is that what's the ceiling which the government is willing to pay. Say in Bangalore a school charges 40,000 a year, will the government pay that much per child?

 

[Dovah]

Actually schools(even private) do get a lot of subsidies and benefits from the government, they can return the favor by allowing a few economically weaker students a shot at quality education, a quarter is too much perhaps.

However, government would be better off improving the condition in government schools.

 

[Adux]

Actually schools(even private) do get a lot of subsidies and benefits from the government, they can return the favor by allowing a few economically weaker students a shot at quality education, a quarter is too much perhaps.

However, government would be better off improving the condition in government schools.

Last I heard, India wasnt a banana repbulic, there are no favors business here, A private property is, private property. if the government feels the private schools shouldnt have those benefits, they could take it away and actually tax the schools. They have taken away most of the benefits in the last few years,

 

[Adux]

There are two conspiracy theories


1., they are destroying the current school system, so as to make the entry barriers of Bharti, Wirpro, Tata and all others in the educational sector

2. CBSE schools are making control of the masses for the political parties very very hard.

 

[Yusuf]

The department has put a budget of 2.4 lakh crores for the years 2010-2014 I read somewhere but have got less than what was asked so far by fin min in the budget.

The governor needs 12L teachers to teach all those kids as well. Without having the necessary infrastructure in place, the act is going to put pressure on the existing system. Which means the cost of education on the rest is going to increase because I of lack of seats and premium attached to the remaining ones.

Corruption for sure will start. The government says that deciding on who among the poor get the seat is going to be by lottery. It is ridiculous.

I am all for education as many of my posts over here says, but this reservation thing is not going to work.

The government instead should have looked to create more infrastructure by way of making schools and expanding existing government schools where education would have been free for all.

Even the west has good and free education for all till college. And the education level is food as well.

India lacks good teachers. The other day (though not for schools) there was a report in Bangalore that only 5% of the people appearing for exams for the post of lecturers in college passed. None passed in math and only one did for physics.

The system is shit. Curriculum itself needs to be overhauled.

2.4L crores if invested in making schools would work wonders instead if spending on reimbursement.

 

[Yusuf]

Centre needs Rs 2.3 lakh crore to fund RTE initiative

NEW DELHI : With the Supreme Court bringing all recognized schools under the Right to Education (RTE) Act, the government will have to boost spending on its flagship programme to meet the estimated Rs 2.3 lakh crore needed to fund the initiative over 2010-2014.

RTE has been plagued with fund shortfalls with budgetary provision in the last two years being only half of what was estimated. The HRD ministry received Rs 21,000 crore in 2011-12 instead of Rs 43,903 crore. The allocation has gone up only marginally to Rs 25,000 crore in the current 2012-13 budget.

The estimated Rs 2.3 lakh crore, to be shared between Centre and states according to a 65:35 ratio, is also expected to go up as it does not include subsidy the government is to pay private schools to implement a 25% quota for economically disadvantaged students.

The RTE incorporates the successful Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan (SSA) and the ministry had estimated it would need an allocation of Rs 48,000 crore in the current fiscal. Initially, the government had calculated that it would need Rs 40,500 crore in the first year of implementation.

According to educationist Vinod Raina, a key member of the RTE team, "RTE in general suffers from a financial crunch and there has also been a problem of states not being able to spend the funds allocated. There have also been constraints of teacher shortages.''

While RTE rollout has been hampered by a resource crunch and infrastructure bottlenecks for which the government has not always been to blame, targets set for UPA's ambitious programme of social inclusiveness have not been met. The erosion of gender imbalances and reduction of dropout rates are still lagging targets.

Implementation of RTE targets still needs 12 lakh teachers and HRD minister Kapil Sibal has said six lakh posts have been sanctioned that need to be filled. RTE sets an ideal 30:1 student-teacher ratio for primary schools.

The overall annual dropout rate for 2009-10 was 9.1% and this has improved to 6.8% in 2010-11. Total enrollment has increased to 13.52 crore from 13.34 crore in the same period. But worryingly dropout rates have increased in states like Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Haryana, Mizoram, Sikkim and Tripura.

There are about 1.29 million elementary schools in the country. Besides funding, shortage of teachers is a crucial hurdle to implementing the Act. According to the ministry, 43% of government schools have a pupil: teacher ratio of more than 30:1. About 9% schools are run by single teachers, while 20% have teachers without professional qualifications. There is an estimated shortage of 12 lakh teachers in eight states, and the worst affected include UP, Bihar and West Bengal.

A recent PAISA report by Accountability Initiative has seconded the government's estimate that allocations to teachers, including salaries, training and teaching inputs such as teacher learning equipment, accounted for the largest share of the SSA budget.

In 2011-2012 teachers accounted for 44% of the budget. School infrastructure made up for the second largest share with a total allocation of 36%, while children (entitlement and special programmes) accounted for 10%.

While per child allocation has doubled from Rs 2, 004 in 2009-1010 to Rs 4, 269 in 2011-2012 the report says that a matching increase in quality parameters is absent. Raina says staggered targets depending upon progress of each state may be the answer to effective implementation.

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Cen...tive/articleshow/12656055.cms?intenttarget=no

 

[Aayush]

Our fees will be increased more
It was around 13-14k now what?
Development for some may be harmful for others.

 

[Adux]

Yeah don't burden Private schools. Let the kids wait till Govt builds more public schools. They can wait for years then.

You are basing your arguement on the assumptions that private schools have seats or excess capacity. This is going to destroy education for lower middle class and middle class from good quality affordable education.

No build more schools, train more teachers and make them accountable for quality.

 

[Yusuf]

$50 billion, we can create world class schools all over the country.

 

[Mad Indian]

When the govt has no money to invest in schools of its own because it has wasted it all on useless subsidies what does it do,ask the private players to do their work. Ever wonder why I hate this socialist basta**s

 

[Bachchu Yadav]

When the govt has no money to invest in schools of its own because it has wasted it all on useless subsidies what does it do,ask the private players to do their work. Ever wonder why I hate this socialist basta**s

You are ill-informed ! trying reading The Hindu newspaper, Your hatredness can be cured !

 

[Adux]

$50 billion, we can create world class schools all over the country.

What the Government is reembursing the private schools is 'per child expenditure of that particular state(which does not include the capital expenditure), which would account from Rs.170 to Rs.400/ child/month, while a private school gets 1000 - 1400(lowest rates/month), who will bear the excess money. The muslim community and christian community will bring in money from outside, what about the charitable organizations owned by hindu's and seculars, also minorities are excluded from various sections of the act.