Retd Army Lt Col's 20 odd yr old daughter planning to join ISIS; Colonel alerts NIA

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  1. asingh10

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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
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    Being branded an Internet Hindu nowadays should be considered a badge of honor and a compliment when vested interests work insidiously to further their agenda on national and cultural levels.

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    Anti-Hinduism as an Industry

    http://indiafacts.co.in/anti-hinduism-as-an-industry/

    Anti-Hinduism is an industry. It has a purpose and an end goal.It has financial means, institutional set-up and a tradition of sponsored intellectuals occupying important positions, protecting vested interests of their own.

    It began during colonial era, during the reign of the East India Company and then the British Raj. The story of how missionaries and colonialists slandered Hindu civilization and culture in the heyday of racism is a well-known one, not to be dwelt upon here. Suffice to say that a certain section of the ruling elite found it profitable to abuse Hindu culture and society.

    This narrative morphed into an industry after Independence. Gandhi’s assassination gave Nehru an excuse to stifle all opposition, particularly the nationalists. Under Indira Gandhi and Education Minister Nural Hasan, anti-Hinduism became firmly entrenched in academia and media. Its steady growth and dominance in the electronic and print media became unchallengeable.

    As a consequence, Soviet-sponsored Leftist intellectuals became all-pervasive and powerful. Their opponents were systematically silenced. Nationalists were hounded out of public discourse. Almost no mainstream newspaper, magazine or media outlet would give them the opportunity to voice their opinions and state facts.

    The demise of the global left in the 90s, and the rise of the BJP in India gave new hope to the dwindling nationalist forces in the media and academia; but it was a bleak respite.

    Changing Political Fortunes and Continued Dominance of the Left

    The Vajpayee government in 1999 brought some welcome changes but it was mainly interested in completing its term, keeping the coalition ship afloat.

    Some voices had started to turn away from the Left and present the other side, but it was too little to make any impact. The shocking defeat of the NDA in 2004 elections put a swift end to all the new beginnings that were made.

    If anything, it seriously convinced the ‘intellectuals’ and the journalists that a sustained opposition of the Left was not at all possible.

    The UPA government was formed in 2004 hurriedly by collecting all the anti-BJP parties and individual candidates from the messy election results. Nobody then believed the government would last the term. However it did.

    In the 2009 General Elections, there was still some hope that the BJP would come back to power. UPA-1 was weak. It did repeal many decisions taken by the previous Vajpayee government, but it mainly concentrated on lasting through the term.

    Therefore, though the direction of the government was anti-Hindu, the pace was slow and hesitant. When the results came out in 2009, the UPA not only retained power, but the Congress Party increased its individual tally of seats to 206.

    UPA-2 was more confident. Behind the smoke created by the numerous scandals by its ministers, there was a determined and coordinated attack on Hindu culture and society as a whole. Textbooks were changed. Nationalist bloggers were jailed. New Bills were introduced or changes were made to the existing ones, to the detriment of the majority community.[ii] Many new magazines, newspapers and online media outlets,which had a clearly anti-Hindu bent were floated.

    For the Leftist intellectuals in India,it was a decisive sign that things were going to stay the same; that they would continue to dominate the institutions. They became more nonchalant in their rubbishing of the opposing political views. Their hold on institutions strengthened. They were gearing for a final push to silence the nationalist opposition once and for all.

    New magazines and media houses were opened to further the goal of anti-Hinduism. These were more rabidly anti-Hindu than anything India had ever seen before. Their views bordered on racism aimed at entire Hindu society and culture, reminiscent of the colonial era.

    The Rise of Social Media
    Meanwhile, on another platform something entirely different was occurring.

    The Internet had given birth to the phenomenon of social media. It was decentralized and impossible to control by any single ideology or institution. Even the governments were ineffective against it.

    First Orkut, then Facebook and Twitter took the Indian online community by storm, convincing the common man that now he had a voice.

    For the first time, Indians realized that they did not have to take things lying down and that they could also rise up in opposition to what they considered wrong.

    Indians did rise. And the Congress Party and their leftist allies found themselves at the receiving end. While the sponsors of the anti-Hindus invested overwhelmingly in the old technology of mass media, the world had moved forward.

    The new technology had created a platform where controlling mechanisms were ineffectual in most cases and mildly effectual in some. The Nehruvian castle built by the state-sponsored intellectuals had finally begun to crumble.

    Congress-Communist rulers of the country only woke up to the new threat since it became apparent that Narendra Modi could be the BJP’s candidate for Prime Minister and that he could win. By then, it was too late. In an unprecedented wave of support, Modi and his BJP registered a stunning victory in 2014.[iii]

    The crushing defeat of the Congress had dismayed the leftist intellectuals propped up by the Congress-Communist regime. Sensing the winds of change, some institutions changed their stance. While some started showing facts, others changed the gear to neutral. But there were still many who kept up the struggle against ‘communalism’ and everything bad that Modi represented.

    The media institutions that were spawned during UPA-2 became the rallying point for the anti-Hindus. After the initial shock was over, they started regrouping and re-strategizing. While some new websites and web portals were opened to spew more hatred towards Hindu society, the old ones consolidated their castles.

    Unholy Alliance of Radical Islam and the Global Left
    One wonders why these leftist institutions, which should be religion-neutral by definition, display such hostility against Hinduism, while they do not even acknowledge the crimes of Islam in India.

    Indeed, this Leftist alliance with Islam is not limited to India. The global Left is aligned with global Islam in an Unholy Alliance. Since the Leftist ideology is officially atheist and Islam is the most radical of monotheistic faiths, it is uncanny that the two have an agreement.

    An Unholy Alliance is understood as an unnatural, unusual, or simply undesirable alliance between antagonistic parties. The term was first used in 1855 when the Western European Christian powers had aligned with the Islamic Ottoman Empire of Turkey and against the Orthodox Christian Empires of the Balkans and Russia.[iv]

    The term became popular again during World War II, when Stalin’s Communist Russia aligned with the Nazi Germany to partition Poland.

    Railing against Nazism, fascism and nationalism was one of the most central tenets of Leninist and Stalinist Communism. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact of 1939 thus shocked most of the world.[v]Two deadly enemies had come together to share the spoils of war. After that the phrase has been used a couple of times in African wars of independence and civil wars.

    Though Communism had always been favourably disposed to Islamic terrorism—note that the Soviet Union was an ally of Palestine against Israel in its fight against the U.S.A.

    The post 9/11 scenario brought them closer than ever before. The term ‘Unholy Alliance’ once again came in use for the global alliance between the Left-liberals and Islam.[vi]

    David Horowitz, in his Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left, explains how the Left-liberals in American media and academia became the front-row cheer-leaders for radical Islam, apologizing for Islamic terrorism, blaming it all on ‘American capitalism’.

    Misogyny, homophobia, racism, xenophobia and anti-minority mindset are some of the ideas against which the European and American Left-liberals have always put up a front.

    As Islam is a habitual offender in all of the above categories,[vii] it is very natural that the social activists working against these discriminatory ideas should also voice their opinion against Islam. However, not only do they keep quiet over Islam’s crimes against women, gays and minorities, they paint it with a white brush.

    This unholy alliance begs an explanation.

    In the heydays of Communism, propaganda was one of the most important activities of the Communist government of Soviet Union. It had a complete ministry, Agitprop, Agitation and Propaganda Ministry, devoted to spreading Communist propaganda in the Soviet Union and abroad. For this it had created numerous institutions all over the world and had sponsored innumerable academics, journalists, writers, artists and political activists in many countries.[viii]

    The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989 left all of these institutions and individuals, on the payroll of the Communists, rudderless. They were suddenly left with no finances, no guidance and no future plan. With the disappearance of their Moscow masters, it was as if the gravity had disappeared. What was to become of all the political machinery that the Soviet Union had created over all these years? What would become of the intellectuals it had sponsored?

    Many of these public intellectuals, who had huge influence, became intellectual mercenaries. Taking advantage of their popularity,they started accepting paychecks from whoever bid the highest. In turn they used their excellent capabilities to present propaganda as facts, distort truth and tilt public opinion to one side.

    To their advantage, the demise of global communism coincided with the spectacular rise of Islamic terrorism in particular and Islamism in general. The Soviet-Afghan War (1979-89) signaled the end of Communism, and witnessed the rise of Islamism.

    All over the world, the public intellectuals of Left-liberal orientation found a ready employer in the Islamists. The Islamists on the other hand found a ready-made machinery and trained foot soldiers who would churn out Islamist propaganda in Western universities, which were then copied by the Third World ‘intellectuals’.

    Although they are ideologically diametrically opposed, Islamism and Left-liberal intellectuals were pragmatic and natural partners in the given circumstances.

    Moreover, Islamism and Left-liberals had a common enemy in the West. This made their alliance even easier. This is how the Unholy Alliance between Radical Islam and the Left came to be.

    Their Alliance in India

    In India too, the Left had always been aligned with Islamism in a bid to divide the majority by uniting and supporting the minorities.

    During the reign of UPA-2, this alliance became more radical than anytime before.

    The Left began a determined and sustained effort to attack Hindu society and became open apologists for Islamic crimes of the past and present through various media houses and online sites.

    In these websites,every aspect of Hindu civilization was derided;every national hero was slandered and every villain glorified. And Narendra Modi of course became the ultimate punching bag.

    Rise of the Leftist New Media
    Left-liberalism and anti-Hinduism became mainstream since Indira Gandhi’s tryst with the communists. Almost every major newspaper sports some anti-Hindu propaganda almost on a daily basis.

    However, after the 2014 General Elections while most of the mainstream media has become cautious, there are many magazines and websites which are solely devoted to churning out anti-Hindu material some of which borders on propaganda.

    Four of them have become inexplicably popular over the past three or four years. These are:

    • The Caravan Magazine
    • Scroll.in
    • The Wire
    • CatchNews
    These magazines and online web portals have become suspiciously famous in a short period of time, despite their mediocre content. Most of their articles are opinionated barrages, which are based on dubious sources and are creative in their interpretations.

    Every anti-Hindu worth his salt is found quoting them on Facebook, Twitter and even outside social media portals. Their founding members don’t exactly have stellar histories, with many of them involved in institutional Hindu hatred.

    So, how do they work? What drives them? What is their motivation? Is it financial or ideological or both? What do they actually write? Are they blatantly anti-Hindu?

    The subsequent series of articles will attempt to answer these questions.
     
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    Tel colonel to send her daughter to airport in uber taxi , Iam sure she will get her lesson before reaching airport w
     
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    IS, ISIS, ISIL, AQ, etc are names allotted by the Western Zionist media. As a matter of fact these groups - whatever might be their identity, stand for ant-colonialism, anti-international banks, anti-WTO/GATT, etc. These naturally attract intelligent and highly educated youth - irrespective of religion.
     
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    Let that girl go there and get raped ... She deserve it...
     
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    jackprince Turning into a frog Senior Member

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    Oh, Damn! You are sooooo intelligent!!!!!

    So, they intellegently cut people's head off, rape intelligently, butcher children with wisdom, drown and burn people alive with due deliberation and proper reasoning, use children to kill men logically. Oh wait, all those shia, yazidis, christians are after all agents of international banks, holding directorships in them, isn't so?

    Or did you mean intelligent and highly educated by the standard of a madrassa taught people?

    Are you a complete and utter Moron with grass for brain!!! Or a logical intelligent terrorist wannabe?
     
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    50 shades of grey gone wild:biggrin2:
     
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    sob Moderator Moderator

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    So you support these groups and want to join them?

    What about them using kids to behead prisoners? Are you okay with that?
     
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    OneGrimPilgrim Senior Member Senior Member

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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    he's not entirely wrong here, except that he forgot to write "....PRETEND TO stand for"....for those scum trap the fence-sitters and educated fools by selling just the very snakeoil brands he mentioned. see he himself has fallen for it. the leftists themselves have been swindling and ruining scores of such hormonally excited 'intelligent youth' since decades peddling the same romantic notions.
     
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    Looks like you understand them and have a definite soft corner for them.. Your country men should be alarmed..
     
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    Irrespective of religion, sure why not.
    :playball:

    ISIL-claimed attack in Bangladesh sparks fear of group's arrival

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...ms-credit-for-first-attack-in-bangladesh.html

    September 29, 2015 11:16AM ET

    Analysts say ISIL has small presence in third largest Muslim-majority nation despite killing of Italian aid worker

    The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant has assumed responsibility for killing an Italian aid worker in the streets of the Bangladeshi capital on Monday, a claim that, if verified, would mark the first ISIL attack in the third largest Muslim-majority nation.

    Cesare Tavella, a 50 year-old employee of a Dutch NGO working in the South Asian country, was gunned down while jogging around Dhaka’s diplomatic zone, according to police spokesman Muntasirul Islam. Details are still sketchy, Islam said, but witnesses who spoke to reporters and the police said three unidentified “youths” had followed Tavella on a motorbike before shooting him several times.

    Soon after, a statement allegedly from ISIL surfaced on social media claiming responsibility. An ISIL "security detachment" using “silenced weapons” had killed Tavella, whose name the statement misspelled and who is referred to as a “Crusader infidel.” The attack was meant as a warning to citizens of Western states, including Italy, that have joined the anti-ISIL coalition striking the group’s strongholds in Syria and Iraq: “We say to the nationals of the Crusader alliance: you will not be safe in [Muslim lands]. This is the first drop of rain.”

    Bangladeshi police and the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs have both said they are working to verify ISIL’s claim of responsibility, but the attack has already exacerbated fears that "lone wolf" supporters would soon plant its black flag in Bangladesh. It comes amid an alarming rise in violence in the country of 160 million, which has long wrestled with myriad hardline factions — both of the domestic variety, namely the Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB), and transnational, especially Al-Qaeda — but has not yet seen ISIL gain a foothold.

    Monday’s attack was the latest troubling sign that security was deteriorating — a situation groups like ISIL will be keen to exploit. This year, four secular bloggers have been murdered, and a hit list naming dozens more targets has reportedly been circulated. Just days ago, Australia’s foreign ministry urged the country’s national cricket team to postpone a scheduled test in Bangladesh due to “reliable information” suggesting “that militants may be planning to target Australian interests.” The British foreign ministry had released a similar advisory to its nationals.

    It isn’t clear whether those warnings were linked to Monday’s attack, but Bangladeshi intelligence has begun to root out individuals with ties to ISIL operating in the country. Last September, Bangladeshi authorities arrested a British citizen of Bangladeshi origin who was working to recruit fighters on behalf of both ISIL and Al-Qaeda’s Syrian affiliate, the Nusra Front. Then in January, a deputy police commissioner in Dhaka announced that police had arrested several members of an ISIL cell in Bangladesh who were allegedly plotting attacks in the country.

    In the perennial shadow of other turbulent South Asian nations, namely Afghanistan and Pakistan, “Bangladesh is a potential problem that people are just not focusing on,” said Christine Fair, an expert on armed groups in South Asia at Georgetown University.

    Part of the explanation for why Bangladesh has stayed outside the media spotlight could be that that transnational groups have historically struggled to gain traction and carry out attacks there. In a recent analysis for the Jamestown Foundation, New Delhi-based researcher Animesh Roul pointed to the country’s “entrenched secular traditions, its effective security service, a widespread popular suspicion of imported forms of Islamism (particularly those connected to Pakistan) and generally limited levels of public support for even ‘democratic’ or ‘moderate’ Islamist groups like Jamaat-e-Islami,” a political party in the country with ties to the country’s dominant armed faction, the JMB.

    But Fair said reporting and research on Bangladesh’s armed factions has long been scant, even more so as ISIL’s surge across Syria and Iraq grabs headlines, and that there could be more cause for concern than meets the eye. In the past, public polling has indicated troublingly high levels of support for groups with ideologies akin to ISIL, including a 2009 University of Maryland survey that found 47 percent of Bangladeshis had a positive view of Osama bin Laden, the founder of Al-Qaeda. A relatively high number of Bangladeshi citizens are also believed to have traveled to Syria and Iraq to take up arms with ISIL, Fair said. The figure is far higher if you include members of the Bangladeshi diaspora in the West, especially in the U.K., where recruiters have worked to lure disaffected Bangladeshi youth to Syria and Iraq.

    In some ways, Bangladesh could be seen as a test of ISIL’s ability to infiltrate Muslim-majority countries where the central government remains strong and largely secular. In each country where ISIL has taken over territory or inspired satellite affiliates, the group has exploited power vacuums formed when sectarian or oppressive governments have crumbled. Experts say it is unclear how that approach will translate somewhere like Bangladesh. Fair noted that there is also already a preponderance of likeminded factions in the country that possess wider support, namely the JMB, which is able to operate above the surface through its political ally, Jamaat-e-Islami (if indirectly).

    The current government of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, who has herself allegedly been targeted by the JMB in the past, appears to recognize a burgeoning security threat, Fair said. (Her predecessor and rival, Khaleda Zia, head of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, had previously been accused of turning a blind eye to these groups, in part due to her reliance on Jemaat-e-Islami for political support.) But Fair noted that cracking down on hardline dissidence has not historically been the answer. “You think this might be a deterrent, but it never really works out that way,” she said. Often, “what it does is drive this stuff down under the public eye. It goes subterranean.”

    Still, most experts say ISIL’s potential in Bangladesh remains largely theoretical at this point, even despite ISIL's alleged first strike on Bangladeshi soil. Ali Riaz, a professor at Illinois State University who recently worked on a study probing the affiliations of "terror" suspects in Bangladesh over the past two years, suggests that transnational groups like ISIL and Al-Qaeda currently "have a very low support base, organizationally speaking. It’s almost nonexistent.”

    But, Riaz added, “that should not make anyone complacent.”
     
  14. Screambowl

    Screambowl Senior Member Senior Member

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    she might have been come under influence of muslims and since we indians are so secular.. all are equal etc etc.. such things should happen.. because we are the ones with fault.
     
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    I have a theory

    Scenes of Brutality and Violence can make certain people get orgasm. Some serial killers brutalize their victims for sexual pleasure.

    Violence and Grief (saas bahu rona dhona) act as two of the nature's strongest Aphrodisiacs. One of the strongest evidences lies in captured animal world videos, some of the videos available show the female getting sexually aroused and mating with the male who just killed her cubs/litter.
     
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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    that may also be to due to a an instinctual drive to immediately exact revenge and extract the manjuice out of the bastard, leaving him sucked dry and wasted, and leaving her with the prospect of having new children. :p
     
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    I am in favor of info war in India, through bollywood start glamorizing our old scriptures. But with a limitation of content. No adultery.
     
  18. Sakal Gharelu Ustad

    Sakal Gharelu Ustad Detests Jholawalas Moderator

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    The entire 50 shades of grey economy is based on this.
     
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    OneGrimPilgrim Senior Member Senior Member

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    whr invaders hv been eulogised, heroes binned!!
    kyon pet par laat maar rahe ho unke?! :p
     
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    Screambowl Senior Member Senior Member

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    hehe
    unke g**** par bhi laat paregi ab.

    We need to make our scriptures look cool. How japs and chinese do it.. even the greek Gods are known to world. We are lacking behind. We need to attract people and remove all those bollywood songs with Sufi mijaaz..

    Make it more sanskrit or use of regional languages.. this must be done otherwise we will lose it all.
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    It is not theory .... females are designed like that. Kind of sustenance and survival to fittest.

    It is like the winner has the right to sow his seeds, nature's law. Giving rise to stronger breeds.

    Female also forgets the pain of the lost husband and children quickly.
     

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