Reservation for minorities and scheduled castes.

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  1. ashicjose

    ashicjose Regular Member

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    I think reservation needed but not for minorities and cast, it should be for the poor.Personally i feel that the time came to change the constitution(regarding RESERVATION) wrote by the great Abedkar.
     
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  3. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

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    Ahh its a good idea but the problem with that is who will decide who is poor and who is rich? Our babus don't work honestly and hence poor don't get their right and other take advantage of it. Also when you'll analyze the poor population then you'll find certain casts comes in poor category in general so to help poor and others its easy to recognize such tribes and casts eligible for reservation.
     
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    GPM Tihar Jail Banned

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    You know why Jinnah pressed for Pakistan? NO??

    He wanted reservation for muslims in civil, police and military posts. As also reservation in legislatures and separate electorates for muslims. So much so he wanted a strong prez, AND wanted that posts of PM and prez should not be occupied by persons from same community simultaneously ie reservation at the topmost level. Nehru rejected the reservation demands.

    If the reservation demand could not be accepted THEN, how can it be accepted NOW?
     
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    Reservation for the minorities is a backward step.

    Efforts should be made to bring them in the mainstream by providing free education. Reservation is doing to differentiate them and alienate them from the mainstream.
     
  6. ashicjose

    ashicjose Regular Member

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    there are many families they cant let their children to go for a higher studies bcoz the income of one or two is not enough to feed the whole family so they expecting their kids to support them.so my point is IN A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA RESERVATION can not be avoided but the beneficiary must be the one who is deserve it.
     
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    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

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    I agree with that.

    I don't think anybody would disagree if I said:


    Reservation for the economically backward ---> is economically desirable and required.
    Reservation based on castes and religious communities ---> is undesirable and is a political venture. ​


    Now, the second problem we confront is: how do we identify those most 'deserving'?

    Typically, for a long period in our history economic backwardness has been synonymous with a certain community or caste. But in modern India, that is not necessarily so. Income levels could be used, but people tend to hide their real income levels from the authorities, either for legal purposes or tax reasons. And, in a scenario like this, even more so. What then is the most accurate parameter to judge 'deservedness'? Given that income streams may not necessarily be transparent or reflective of those trying to indulge in free state-sops.
     
  8. captonjohn

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    Reservation is meant to help backward people to come front who are poor and not educated enough to develop themselves easily. Now everyone agree with that reservation should be given to one who deserves and it must. But the problem is that how we will identify and how government will that a person deserves for reservation or not?

    You have seen the result of NEREGA rojgar guarantee plan but what happened with that? Corrupted babu took almost half of money themselves or may be more. They didn't gave benefit to them who deserve but to them who gave them bribe and benefited them. This happens everywhere, when our formers suffer loss of their crop then government announce help fund but when officers come they demand for bribe and give benefit to them who don't deserve. I still remember that there are many formers have committed suicide in MP just for it because these corrupted babus demanded heavy bribe and they couldn't pay it. One former got a check of Rs. 14 can you believe??

    Corruption is become a cancer of government and if government can't make justice with their plans then how do you think government will be loyal while deciding who is poor and backward to deserve reservation???

    Financial condition must be considered to give reservation but our government don't deserve to do that.

    Another question "How many guys will accept reservation based on financial condition get benefit due to their minority status?" Muslims and other minorities get many facilities and reservation Will they agree to leave their benefit for nation???

    If you try to do better for nation then politician will play dirty politics of religion and regionalism. If 10% people are too much poor and deserve reservation in Madhya Pradesh and only 2% people deserve for reservation in Maharashtra then think how these politician will play their dirty game based on regionalism? States will accuse central government for dis justifying with them.
     

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