Rebellious Chinese village under siege by police

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    This is what a lopsided approach to growth and on a wild frenzied pace can do to a country.

    India must watch China closely since progress for the sake of progress can be disastrous.

    China will be able to weather the storm because it a totalitarian country and because the people are attuned through historical reasons to obey the Govt.

    In India it will be total chaos given that we are a democracy.
     
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  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    It does not look good.

    I am surprised that the Chinese Govt has for the first time lost control of the situation.

    This will indeed be worrisome for the CCP since other cities and villages follow suit.

    This happens when uncontrolled growth charged with greed as the aim takes place.
     
  4. Iamanidiot

    Iamanidiot Elite Member Elite Member

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    The bad thing is the PAP may use howitzers to quell the protests.Now some monk must immolate himself to protest against this illegal land grab by CCP
     
  5. agentperry

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    party members taking away people's farmland at a very low compensation is very talked about topic in international media, many had died on this issue and now people's frustation is coming out, ccp needs to take urgent steps to address the grievance of the masses than strict and inhuman steps like stoping the food supplies to village and surrounding the village by troops, its not a 14th century fort invasion afterall its a genuine public demand( from what it is presented as)
     
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    Chinese village stand-off continues after land row


    Chinese village under siege

    Beijing (CNN) -- A stand-off between thousands of villagers and authorities in southern China continued Thursday, amid protests over illegal land seizures.

    One resident told CNN that local officials were driven out of Wukan village in Guangdong Province as villagers sought to protect their land from being overtaken by developers.

    "We're afraid the police will storm in and arrest us or even kill us," said a local farmer who gave only his surname, Huang, for fear of being identified.

    "They've also cut off some supplies coming into the village, so we're running low on food."

    The residents of the fishing village claim land has been seized illegally and then sold on by the local government to developers for the past decade.

    News of one recent sale of nearly 1,000 acres of land to developers prompted protests by villagers who say they have not received any compensation and rely on the land for their livelihood.

    "All we want is our land back so we can support our families," Huang said. "It's unclear what will happen next but we have nothing to lose now."

    It's unclear what will happen next but we have nothing to lose now.
    Wukan resident
    Meanwhile, residents are also mourning the death of a fellow villager who died in police custody last weekend. They suspect that 42-year-old Xue Jinbo was beaten to death, but state media reported that he died of natural causes.

    Xue was suspected of leading hundreds of villagers in protests over issues of land use, money and local elections in September that led to two days of rioting, the official Xinhua News Agency reported.

    His death was caused by cardiac failure and no apparent signs of assault were found on his body, the news agency quoted an investigator with the Guangdong Provincial Procuratorate as telling reporters.

    But Huang said villagers suspect foul play and are angry that the government still has custody of Xue's body and have declined to return it to his family.

    The Shanwei city government, which administers the area, said in a statement Friday that it had settled some of the complaints that led to the riots, Xinhua reported, and that two local officials had been fired.

    The local government has so far not responded to a request for comment from CNN.

    China has since censored searches for "Wukan" in online micro-blogs and other Twitter-like feeds to prevent the spread of information about the unrest. Searches on Sina Weibo for "Wukan" only result with the message, "according to relevant laws and regulations, results for Wukan cannot be displayed."

    Disputes over land use in rural areas of China have increased as discontent has grown over local corruption and environmental issues.

    Huang said he is not sure how long the protests -- and virtual blockade by the authorities -- will carry on, but negotiations with authorities are continuing as villagers are afraid to leave the village for fear of arrests and beatings.

    On Wednesday, thousands gathered in the village for more than two hours to mourn Xue's death and chant for the return of his body along with calls for justice and democracy.

    Huang said residents are planning to do the same on Thursday and will be armed with knives, wooden sticks, and rocks in case police storm the village to arrest people.

    "Right now, we are all very nervous, but prepared to defend our land and our rights," said Huang. "If the police are ruthless enough to kill Xue, we know it could happen to anyone."
     
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    I'm sure that this is only 1 of 1000s of protests that became public. I hope the villagers can protect their land but knowing the power of CCP they may not win this battle.
     
  8. ice berg

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    You need to separate the CCP and the local government. When you live comfortable in Beijing, you cant know everything that is going on in the country. Obviously when you got a big country, you need to delegate the power somewhere.
    China is still a big country.
    Agree with the rest.
     
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    Don't worried, it will be settled or has been settled. Projects will be handled by the provincial government, criminals will be punished. And the life of the village people will back to normal.
     
  10. niharjhatn

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    I hope they do not commit immolation over something as petty as this!
     
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    So far we have not seen tibetan monks burning themselves because some Han people lose their lands.
     
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    Is this really "criminal"?

    I am the first to admit the CCP has been trememendous in growing a very poor country into the juggernaut China is today - but given the huge growth they are experiencing, why are they still holding onto such laws and ideals? People say that democratic processes will eventually be introduced - but shouldn't it be introduced in scenarios like this?
     
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    just take a look at following video...how chinese villagers are dying of diseases due to policies of chinese government.

     
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  14. RedDragon

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    You misunderstood me, the criminals means the corrupt local officials and the business man.
     
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    After the corrupted official, and their land take back to them, add some compensate, these village people will be pleased. And that is what exactly what they want.

    Most of these kind of things is because the corrupted local official cooperate with some black heated business man. They surely will be punished.
     
  16. RedDragon

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    If you know the character of their flag, you will understand what they want, they want the upper government to help them. Punish the corrupt local official and save their land. They surely will be satisfied.
     
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    The corrupted official who initiation this event will surely have a lot of free meal to eat --- behind the handrail --- if his criminal is no enough to be executed
     
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    What an admission that Hans can not be monks !
     
  19. ice berg

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    They can, they just dont burn themselves.
     
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    war on "Right of Private Property" in Maoist China ! Is China turning the Russian way towards Adam Smith ?
     
  21. Bhadra

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    because they are buried after death and may not consider fire as pure as Buddhist comprehend. That is why they didg their graves and go underneath alive.
     

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