Ready to work with India to settle border dispute: China

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  1. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Ready to work with India to settle border dispute: China

    BEIJING: Ahead of the 17th round of Sino- India talks on the contentious boundary issue, China today said it is ready to achieve an early and mutually acceptable deal to make border areas a "bridge and bond" between them.

    "An early settlement serves the interests of both China and India. It is a strategic objective set by the two governments," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei told a media briefing here.

    India and China will hold their 17th round of Special Represen ..


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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    What are they scheming now?
     
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    aerokan Regular Member

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    Chinese don't scheme anything. They honestly believe in working with India to resolve the border dispute for a mutually acceptable solution.

    Chinese will propose that India give them Arunachal and Aksai Chin. India accepts the flowers of friendship by applying pimple cream in the relations. There you go.. you have an acceptable solution.. Why don't Indians understand that it is as easy as that to get to a 'mutually acceptable' solution !! :confused:
     
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    India, China to discuss incursions, hotline during defence talks

    New Delh: India and China are expected to discuss incursions by PLA soldiers, which are continuing even after the signing of a new border pact, and setting up of a hotline between the two Armies during their Annual Defence Dialogue starting February 24.

    During the sixth round of Defence Secretary-level talks here, the two countries are also expected to review the functioning of the Border Defence Cooperation Agreement (BDCA) signed between them in October last year.

    Defence Secretary Radha Krishna Mathur will hold discussions with his Chinese counterpart on various aspects of defence ties between the two countries which are expected to include incursions by PLA troops and apprehension of Indian nationals by them on few occasions last year, government sources told.

    There have been several incursions by the Chinese troops along the Line of Actual Control even after the two sides signed the BDCA last October.

    India has been saying that though the pact does not guarantee bringing an end to these incursions, it has helped in resolving the disputes at a faster pace.

    The proposal for setting up a hotline between the DGMO- levels officials of their Army headquarters is also expected to be discussed and finalised at the meeting, they said.

    The Chinese side had earlier said it does not have a DGMO in its force and they will have to find another officer for the purpose.

    The meeting, which will begin on February 24, is also expected to discuss the possibilities of holding next round of joint Army exercises between the two sides, they said.

    However, the agenda for the meeting between the senior officials of the two sides is yet to be finalised officially, they said.

    The two sides recently held their third round of joint exercises in Kunming after a gap of nearly five years.

    During the BDCA signing, the two sides had agreed for having more exchanges between their officers and training institutions.

    They are also exploring the possibility of having joint exercises between the air forces and the navies.

    The two countries had put on hold their joint exercises after the Chinese side denied visa to the then Northern Army Commander Lt Gen BS Jaswal in 2010.

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  6. no smoking

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    We all know it was India insisting that China should give back all the land claimed by India including Aksai Chin. On the other hand, it was China proposed a swap---China keeps Aksai Chin while India can have Arunachal! This suggestion has been rejected by India for decades.

    Actually, just look through this forum, read Indians and Chinese members words, you would have clear idea the line of each side. So, please read before opening your mouth.
     
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    Yup.. It's India's fault for rejecting ever expanding claims as I said before. Anyone with a right sense of 'logical' mind should accept Chinese claims or atleast a mutually acceptable solution of Chinese accepting India's soverignity over Arunachal which China neither have control nor it's people request to be with China. And keeping up with the logic, India should give away Chinese attacked and occupied Aksai Chin for Arunachal pradesh which was never in Chinese possession before attack.

    You are right as always that India should give their Chinese occupied territory(Aksai Chin) for keeping their other owned territory(Arunachal Pradesh) with India. All this without a "unexpanding official" Chinese map of their claims. How dare India not trusting Chinese current claim? Why don't Indians settle the current claim by giving up and move on to the next Chinese claim that will come in the next few years? Why can't India behave maturely!!:confused::rolleyes:
     
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    China now controls Aksai Chin and India controls Arunachal. When the Chinese idea of swap and border settlement is already there irrespective of the differences, why is it that China is trying to needle India while India is not doing that to China? :confused: Words and actions should be on the same page buddy.. not facing the opposite ways. And when you understand that, you will probably understand why China is not trusted by anyone.
     
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    A sour sarcasm? Okay let's get back to hard facts -

    + Aksai Chin: According to Macartney McDonald Line it's demarcated within China.

    + South Tibet: Chinese have a legitimate claim - pls check the history of Tawang.

    I know it's hard for Indians to stomach the cold facts and make a U turn after decades of jingoistic propaganda by GoI. Or Indians're instinctively in a denial mode to give away that pound of flesh snatched from others (Mine is mine yours also mine). It's just fine as it seems not imperative to unravel the border knot. Both Chinese and Indians can make do with the cold peace thats already prevailed for a long time. No rush for the time being lest more cession be made from Chinese like that outdated "swap deal".
     
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    What does Macartney McDonald's line say about : Arunachal Pradesh ??

    History also says Afghanistan & Pakistan was part of India!!

    It is too late for India's to make any concession to China... after it was clear of China's ill intension towards India post 1962...
     
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    Macartney McDonald lines defines Aksai Chin belongs to China. Chin here means China and the 1st feudal dynasty Qin whose impacts are far reaching. Do u hav anything solid to refute MM line? Indians need to stop crying foul over 1962 in a ""victim" syndrome - was it ridiculous to expect China to be a pushover not fighting back Indian aggression? Under current cold peace Chinese already has got an all weather ally and devised the pearl string to keep India at bay. We can talk and talk with Indians, but no no to any more concessions!

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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Macartney McDonald Line was a proposal, was it not? Not an agreement or imposed decision.
     
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    Every arrognt empir has fallen.Itz time for you to vacate Tibet once and for all.They is no way you can win a war against India.

    The idea of India is greater than indian.

    The Idea of china is weaker than CCP.
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Nice Quote dude!!!
     
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    bose Senior Member Senior Member

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    My question was not for Aksai Chin but for Aurnachal Pradesh...


    As far as my personal opinion is concerned 1962 was a big debacle for India, and we collectively has learned lessons out of it... else we would had more embarrassment in 1965 and could not have accomplished the goals for 1971 and 1987...

    China did not stopped with 1962 war infact It was Chow En Lai who proposed a joint military strike against India with combined Pakistani and Chinese forces… we Indians will not forget those so easily… It was China who illegally gave nuclear and missile technology to Pakistan just to harm Indians…


    One of your all weather ally Pakistan has fallen on its face out with a begging bowl... and another Sri Lanka is too scared of USA and India... It will be taken to task for their war crimes...

    India does not want concession from China ... India wants its land back which are illigally occupied by China...
     
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    PredictablyMalicious Punjabi Senior Member

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    There is no dispute. Arunachal and Aksai Chin are integral parts of india. Chinese should negotiate Tibet and east Turkestan with india.
     
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    That is lovely arguement!
    Based on the facts you listed above, India refused to legalize the border on LOC in the first place then came back accusing China not complying with LOC?
     
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    Wow, last time you were accusing that China was too greedy by asking Arunachal Pradesh;
    After we pointed out that China suggested a deal based on current control, you are accusing that Chinese suggestion was not good enough by not giving all India wants.

    Now we know why we can't settle the border: if we don't give an offer, it must be China's fault; if we give an offer, it is still China's fault since India should have all.
     
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    That is lovely!

    Nehru insisted that Arunachal Pradesh belongs to India because of McDonlad Line;
    And on Aksai Chin, the same line becomes proposal with no legal effect?

    You can't have both arguments on the same line!
     
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    there was no Arunachal in Nehru's time . India named the occupied territory as Arunachal only in 1980s or so. the eastern part was related to McMahon Line unilaterally penned by Britain. but those brainwashed Indians (deliberately) ignored a key fact Nehru in his "advance policy" gimmick actually even crossed the self imposed McMahon Line penetrating dep into China resulting in retaliations.

    then Indians (the offenders) play victim game up to date ('_')

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