Rajnath Objects to 'Hi and Bye' Culture Among Youths

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    Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh today raised objection over "hi and bye" culture saying people should get rid of it.

    "Today, youths say 'hi and bye' even to their parents. This culture must be done away with. Can't they touch the feet of their parents," Singh said.

    "Touching feet is a mark of respect and does not belittle a person," the BJP leader said, adding 'Jo jhukna nahi jaante, woh toot jaate hain.'

    Singh stressed that touching feet was part of Indian values, and it should be inculcated in the children.

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    Touching feet is a form of submission. I totally distaste it. This is the duty of every parent to allow their kids to grow into independent and self-confident adult.

    I do not like this "Uncle, Aunty, Bhaiya, Didi" culture either. The Desi Idea of creating blood relations with total strangers is a 100% authentic :bs:
     
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    Actually, this desi idea has been in death thores for quite a while, and will die shortly. But would it be good for the society?

    This idea of 'Uncle, Aunty, Bhaiya, Didi' culture was what once kept our society more inclusive and safe. At least in bengal. The para or local culture of this Desi ideas kept the society integrated in a way that today's society can only dream of. I am sure this was the case in most indian culture too. The person a girl called Bhaiya would have gone too a long distance to take extra care for the girl and kept an eye out for her wellbeing. An uncle did the same and so the others. Now it is not anymore, and I miss it.
     
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    Rajnath Bhaiya you have more pressing issues as the Interior Minister of India.

    Multiple insurgencies to be quell down and not to forget the so called looming calls of Al-Qaeda or IS to make inroads in India.

    You have time please make a difference. As regards to HI and Bye well let the people decide for themselves.
     
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    This is called issue creation.
    He believes that our culture should be followed, he's not opposing other cultures but clearly media bias always makes the headlines.
     
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    No way! How communal to do namaste and charan sparsh!

    We should teach our kids to greet people with "Yo dawg! Wassaaa?" with a hi-5 like the 'secular liberals' want us to.

    What to do with these bloody comoonal regressive sanghis!

    :frusty:
     
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    People are dying in terrorist attacks, and this loser is waxing lyrical on Indian culture instead of improving the security of our nation. Amazing.
     
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    Actually 'Hi' from most people, come out as 'Ha'.

    And 'Bye', as 'Ba'.

    And so it is a 'Ha-Ba' culture.

    In Benagali, 'Haba' (হাবা (N)) means a moron.
     
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    And we are dying with inanity galore too! ;)
     
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    And some one is creating useless threads because of blind-hate
     
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    An easy way to show (false) humility!
     
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    So is Hijab/Burqa, Pagdi, or listening to your elders in general.

    You can be an independent and self-confident adult and show respect for elders. They may not objectively deserve that, but that's no reason to be an asshole.

    If we didn't have an uncle/aunty/bhaiya/didi culture, India would have disintegrated along countless lines, starting with caste. Addressing strangers (who may or may not be from a different demographic group as yours) as Uncle/aunty/bhaiya/didi is one of the many little things that keeps an immeasurably diverse society as ours together. We're not as prosperous or educated enough to go with egalitarian titles like sir/madam/mister/miss, like other societies do. Not yet. Your autowallah will rip you off for calling him sir. He will take offence to "mister." You can get your job done by addressing him as "bhai" or "bhaiya." These titles won't fly in an office.
     
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    Please read the responses embedded within the quote.
     
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    Atlas Shrugged, much?

    I would argue that not fetching a glass of water to your elders, who may have contributed to not just your existence, but your parents' lives and well-being, is an equal form of indoctrination. The Indian family system pulled us through great turmoil. It is not an inferior family system to any other. Certainly not western. Thinking so is as much a result of indoctrination as you allege to be the other way around.

    Touching feet is not submission, either. It's a gesture, just like far-east cultures bow down, and western cultures extend a handshake. If you're hygiene-conscious, you needn't physically touch the foot, but reach for it. That would still be valid.

    No wife calls her husband "swamy" anymore. And Swamy isn't "owner" in this context, either. It's an affectionate "sir." You also overlook that husbands call their wives "devi" (goddess), in response to "Swamy". Swamy/devi are aristocratic words, just as western aristrocracies had wives calling their husbands "my lord," who then address their wives "my lady."

    They do have a social impact, because certain people get formal/touchy. And no, as someone who lived and travelled extensively in urban and rural areas of the Cow belt, no there's no general area for bhaiya/didi usage. At best, there's a ji or sahab suffix, because you wouldn't know a stranger's surname.
     
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    I wonder if showing respect/ deference would be and act of submission.

    Our society survives because we still have some bonding with our elders, if only our elders with direct lineage, because parents and grandparents still are pillars of strength in difficult times.

    I find so many grandparent at school waiting to take toddlers and junior school students home because the parents are the double income types, which is more the rule than the exception.

    I have seen the same in Malaysia and Singapore too. It is an Oriental thing?

    That rarely happens in the West where there are cases where children (not adult children) sue their parents or parents feel eating a meal together is a moment of joy and togetherness or sending a card on Father's Day or Mother's day is the be all and end all of filial love and bonding.

    Or saying a "Take Care" or "love you" when leaving or ending a telephone call is all that matters in relationship.

    Who the hell will not take care of himself? And who the hell will not love their parents or anyone who is close?

    Inane and redundant to state the obvious.
     
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