Rajiv Gandhi had secret pact with RSS leaders - Sunday Guardian

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    Rajiv Gandhi had secret pact with RSS leaders - Sunday Guardian

    Late Congress president Rajiv Gandhi and top Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh leaders, Balasaheb Deoras and Bhaurao Deoras, had a secret understanding, which was reflected in certain decisions taken during his tenure as Prime Minister in the late 1980s. According to RSS ideologue K.N. Govindacharya, Rajiv had inherited the "soft Hindutva legacy" of Indira Gandhi's second innings as PM. Sources in the Congress confirmed that Rajiv had met Bhaurau Deoras, younger brother of the RSS Sarsanghchalak Balasaheb Deoras, at least half a dozen times at different locations including the 46, Pusa Road residence of family friend and industrialist Kapil Mohan, where the first such meeting had taken place soon after Indira Gandhi's assassination.

    Subsequently, the two had met at Rajiv's close friend Arun Singh's house on Race Course Road, at the PM residence and twice at the Friends Colony residence of Anil Bali, then with the Mohan Meakin group, a person who had unrestricted access to both Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi at one stage. The last meeting between the two leaders had taken place at 10, Janpath in December 1990, a few months before Rajiv was assassinated and while Chandra Shekhar was the Prime Minister with the support of the Congress.

    Subhash Arya, mayor of South Delhi Municipal Corporation, who had escorted Bhaurao Deoras to Kapil Mohan's house at Pusa Road, confirmed that others who were present there included late RSS leader Hansraj Gupta, besides Kapil Mohan and Bali, who had accompanied Rajiv Gandhi. He, however, declined to divulge details of what transpired, saying, "I will have to seek permission to talk on the subject". However, Arya did say that the clearance of Ramanand Sagar's epic serial Ramayan shown on Doordarshan would not have been possible without the then Prime Minister's direct intervention. He said that Rajiv had also helped the RSS to get some of its money released from nationalised banks, which had blocked the transactions.

    A top Congress source, on the condition of anonymity, said that Rajiv enjoyed an excellent rapport with Bhaurau, who would occasionally advise him on matters of national importance. For instance, the decision to get the locks opened at the disputed site in Ayodhya was taken by the Prime Minister in consultation with the RSS leadership in the aftermath of the Shah Bano controversy.

    Rajiv was extremely nervous about the repercussions that would follow and therefore had met Bhaurau. In addition to discussing the Ayodhya matter, the RSS leader impressed upon the Prime Minister to give relief to some tribals in Orissa near the Indian space programme's site. Rajiv had agreed and had instructed Arun Singh on the matter. Singh had separately met Deoras thereafter at his house. Interestingly, before the meeting at Arun Singh's house, a close associate of Rajiv Gandhi had sent gallons of cow milk and dry fruits for the consumption of the RSS leaders, who were to go along with Bhaurau Deoras.

    Another Congress leader, while confirming the bonhomie between Bhaurao and the then Prime Minister, stated that the shilanyas at the disputed site was also done at the behest of Rajiv Gandhi, following the meeting with the RSS functionary. It was not merely a coincidence that Rajiv kicked off the Congress campaign in the 1989 elections from Ayodhya, perhaps hoping to reap political benefits from the shilanyas. He even spoke about bringing in Ram Rajya under Congress rule. Sources also stated that Bhaurau had advised Rajiv that he should go in for a Dalit President to succeed Giani Zail Singh. However, the Prime Minister, succumbing to pressure from within his own party, opted for R. Venkataraman, a decision he regretted later. Venkataraman had refused to administer him oath of office in 1990 and had made it explicitly clear that he would swear in a Congress PM only if a certain person other than Rajiv was the party's choice.

    [http://sunday-guardian]Anil Bali second from right

    According to sources, after assessing the political situation that existed in the late 1980s, Bhaurau had told Rajiv that he would be better off if he went in for elections in May of 1989, instead of November-December, since the Opposition that was regrouping against him would not be able to organise itself in such a short span of time. L.K. Advani, in his book, My Country, My Life has also talked about difficulty in forging an Opposition alliance against the Congress in 1989. He has indicated that due to Vishwanath Pratap Singh's arrogant attitude and his refusal to form an alliance with the BJP, there were some initial problems, until the two parties reached a seat adjustment agreement subsequently. Advani had stated that he recalled Veer Savarkar's words at one point while describing V.P. Singh's hesitation. "If they come, with them. If they don't come, without them. If they oppose, in spite of them."

    Sources said that Rajiv seemed inclined at one stage to have the polls in May but some of his aides assured him that he would win hands down whenever the elections were held as the Panchayati Raj initiatives and other measures would reap political dividends.

    According to sources, two things that had led to a good understanding between Rajiv and the RSS were firstly their aversion for the Communists, and secondly, their opposition for conversions to Christianity. During their last meeting at 10, Janpath, Bhaurau had reiterated his earlier advice that Rajiv had made a mistake in supporting Chandra Shekhar for Prime Ministership. The meeting that took place in late evening saw Rajiv trying to persuade the RSS leader not to back the Chandra Shekhar-Mulayam Singh Yadav formula for solving the Ram Janmabhoomi dispute. His fear was that if the formula, which the RSS was inclined to support, went through, the regional parties would get strengthened at the cost of the national parties.

    Sources said that Bhaurau rejected Rajiv's observations at the very outset and was convinced that the formula was in everyone's interest. During the marathon meeting that ensued, Rajiv picked up an apple and slicing it into four parts offered the fruit to the RSS leader. The meeting ended with no assurance from Bhaurau. Sources said that Rajiv instructed Anil Bali to escort the RSS leader to the RSS headquarters in Jhandewalan. There was total silence throughout the ten-minute journey at midnight. However, on reaching Jhandewalan, Bhaurau got out and walked a few steps, before turning back. He told Bali that he was absolutely moved by Rajiv's gesture of cutting an apple for him. He added that he should listen to the 8 o'clock morning news the following day. The news broadcast had RSS bodies rejecting the Chandra Shekhar-Mulayam proposal.

    Sources said that Rajiv, during his Prime Ministership, had also instructed his Director, Intelligence Bureau (DIB), M.K. Narayanan to visit the RSS headquarters for a meeting with their top functionaries to understand their perspective. Narayanan had, at one such meeting, met the two Deoras brothers, Rajju Bhaiyya and K. Sudershan (who went on to become RSS chiefs subsequently) as well as Atal Behari Vajpayee. All those present were privy to the interactions between Bhaurau and Rajiv Gandhi.

    Even in April 2007, Pradip Kumar Maitra, Nagpur correspondent of the Hindustan Times had filed a report about the secret pact between Rajiv and the RSS, based on disclosures made by Banwari Lal Purohit, former Congress MP from the region, who had facilitated some of the meetings between Congress ministers and the RSS leadership ahead of the shilanayas in Ayodhya.

    [http://sunday-guardian]Anil Bali extreme right

    A close associate of Rajiv Gandhi, while admitting that these meetings had taken place, hurried to add that "there was nothing wrong as Rajivji would meet people from every background to understand their points of view. He never at any stage deviated from the principle of secularism so deeply enshrined in the Congress ideology."

    Anil Bali, when contacted said that he was fortunate to have had excellent relations with both "Indiraji and Rajiv Gandhi". He declined to elaborate on the meetings as he "was privileged to have such an access to two former Prime Ministers and therefore would not like to talk about subjects and information" he "was privy to due to proximity to them".

    Makhan Lal Fotedar, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi's political adviser, dismissed the information as "concoction" and said "no such meetings ever took place". He refused to elaborate on the matter.

    Subhash Arya admitted that he had been very close to Bhaurao Deoras and was in possession of some photographs of him with Rajiv Gandhi. He could not share them unless he was given permission. He said that when Bhaurau passed away on 12 May 1992 at Dr Jain's Nursing Home in New Delhi's South Extension, he was the one who had informed the RSS leadership at Jhandewalan about his demise.

    However, sources said that the Congress president Sonia Gandhi was aware of the meetings even if she has never referred to these during a public discourse. Some of her associates had attempted to brush under the carpet the information about Rajiv and Indira Gandhi's soft Hindutva line while attempting to record the history of the Congress.

    These sources said that the RSS had developed a soft corner for Indira Gandhi after the 1971 Indo-Pakistan war and the creation of Bangladesh. During the Emergency, many RSS leaders were jailed. However, Indira Gandhi released some of the top functionaries, following the intervention on their behalf by a close family friend. Throughout her years in opposition, Indira Gandhi never targeted the RSS. Her main thrust was to single out Morarji Desai, Charan Singh and Jagjivan Ram. In the late 1970s, it was becoming evident that Jagjivan Ram could replace Morarji Desai as the Prime Minister, Indira Gandhi was most concerned as she realised that Babuji being a Dalit would be difficult to dislodge. The RSS also had an identical view and so had some others in the Janata Party, including Raj Narain, who eventually backed Charan Singh for the top job and played a role in bringing out the sensational Suresh Ram scandal with the help of Kapil Mohan and two main supporters — K.C.Tyagi (now MP) and Om Pal Singh.

    Sources said that Indira Gandhi had improved her relations with the RSS, which silently and secretly supported her party in the 1979-80 elections for the stability of the country. In the aftermath of the Meenakshipuram conversions of Hindus to Christians, the RSS and the then Prime Minister were on the same page. The RSS had organised the Ekatmata Yatra with Moropat Pingle as the in-charge. It was the Ekatmata Yatra model which was used by the BJP when Advani took out his first rathyatra from Somnath to Ayodhya in 1990, according to Govindacharya. Indira Gandhi had also met the then RSS chief, Balasaheb Deoras, and it was on his advice that she agreed to re-establish her relations with Dr Karan Singh, who was also instrumental in the founding of the Virat Hindu Samaj, whose other associates included Ashok Singhal and the late Giriraj Kishore.

    Sources said that the RSS chief was very impressed with the book, Eternal India, written by Indira Gandhi, with photos by Jean Louis Nou, whose advance copy was presented to him in late 1979. He conveyed his compliments to her as well.

    Govindacharya said that the RSS functionaries would subsequently meet Rajiv Gandhi and also the late P.V. Narasimha Rao, who had close connections with some in the organisation as he had been educated in Nagpur. Rao's personal secretary Khandekar "was a swayamsevak", he confirmed.

    The revelations seen in the light of frontal attacks by the Congress leadership on the RSS during public meetings could prove very embarrassing for the party, given that it was the legacy of Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi which had brought it back to power in 2004. Equally disconcerting would be the exact reversal of policies by the high command that has only enforced the perception that the Congress had tilted extensively towards the minorities and its leadership continued to be obsessed by the minority syndrome, perhaps an indication of changing times.

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    Attempt to paint Congress as Hindu loving!
     
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    This claim is exact opposite to the claim they made after rajiv's death.

    seems like stupid Party has no brains to save the day.
     
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    I have been maintaining this, if Rajiv Gandhi was alive, he would have solved Ram Mandir issue already. Unfortunately he & his mother both died very early & undeserving death. His brother was even more radical than any VHP member, as we all know he used to force family planning surgery on Muslims.

    I still believe that Indira & Rajiv was actually leaning towards Hindutva, if they were alive, we might not have seen rise of BJP as we can see PVN Rao implementing whole right side free market policies, Gandhis hating Commies, hating missionaries; BJP wouldn't have been needed.

    This whole relationships might be blocked by some fking commie members of Congress & of course fking commie media after Rajiv Gandhi's demise & PVNR's intentions, Sonia being a Christian must not have problem; even I don't deny CIA's hand behind whole assassination & PVNR's replacement as many have raised their doubts about Sonia being CIA's agent.
     
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    ofcourse i don't know the truth about what's stated in the OP, nor was i even aware of the subject of the thread. however, co-incidentally, this thought had (again) come to my mind today after i read that 28th June was/is the birth-anniversary of late Mr. PVRN Rao, that it was the advent of rajmata sonia gandhi in congress that actually started another starkly dark phase in modern India's situation, which stretched for so long and the effects of which we are so pinchingly feeling, and GOK till when would we bleed due to that!

    for instance, boost in rise of evangelicals, (secret) scams & conspiracies [we still are kept in mystery as to where she and her son keep travelling to every-now-and-then and for what purposes], ouster of old-school leaders in congress insultingly while gathering wicked bootlickers around (remember that case of the Pune horse-dealer and smuggler, and a few secrets of the 'nexus' revealed to the public during investigations?! don't know what happened to that; buried like all good high-profile cases i guess), terrible polarisation of country on the basis of secular-communal plank, far-left kind of politics pushing self-confidence and self-pride/nationalism of people to even lower ebbs while also creating more brown sepoys, etc., etc.

    personally, i have rarely noticed any expression on her face or anything in her voice that looks truthful to what appears to be in (the back of) her mind; to me she appears to be quite a conniving woman (although when i think that she had pardoned the killers of her husband, i start having second thoughts). may be she had set out with a revengeful agenda to wreak damage on the country that swallowed her husband?! i may be partly or wholly wrong, but her advent seems to me to be having spelt something of a doom, both for the country as well as the congress party!
     
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    strangely, or afterall not so strangely, this article appears today, when gulam nabi azad made a stupid remark on PM's 'Mann Ki Baat'. the congress is now playing it safe not to irk the Hindus, after its 2014 debacle, and after gulam nabi azad's (how weird he has rendered his name! he's gulam to rajmata, toh azad kya ghanta!!) comment today, may be this article is an attempt towards damage-control?! though most probably unlikely, but couldn't help but muse on the possible correlation.

    EDIT: just checked the date of the article. so it was indeed andhere mein teer! :biggrin2:
     
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    You know whatever people say about Sonia Gandhi's skills of politics or being a CIA agent etc, I still think she's a 0 in politics, it's ahmed patel who's calling the shots with other Adarsh Liberal's of NAC like that Jhon Dayal & other miserable people who're antidemocractic from core.
     
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    Article may be more or less accurate, I can't comment about the timing but I feel nobody would support present congress because of Rajiv Gandhi's soft hindutva stand, people are not that stupid.
     
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    i had come to know about ahmed patel first from that Pune case only, where it was revealed that the culprit used to have regular meetings with ahmed patel, sonia gandhi, vilasrao dekshmukh at the delhi residence of sonia gandhi, sometimes (stretching) at midnights too! after that, no more info or revelations about that case!
     
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    I don't even know about that case, can you please post some links about it ?
     
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    Guys please rply to my thread.....search it up from my profile...its quite urgent
     
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    Congress always tries to establish unity in India....but always using the method to appease the religious idealogy
    Because of the shah bano case congress did seem that they have to appease the majority class ..and because of that they opened the gates of babri masjid for hindu rituals ....it is however another story that a newborn party for the ammunition it needed to get its stronghold in Indian politics but you cannot take away the fact that it was congress to stir the hornet nest
     
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    I say they're opportunists. Back in 80s-90s and even today, the difference is mindset of leadership whom to appease :D
     
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    this was it i think --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_Ali_Khan

    wiki has too less info. perhaps googling a bit would reveal more.
     
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    You guys should read a book called Politics Cables and Kings which was published in 2009 during 2009 General elections....It had covered Ahmed Patel like no other Book ,inside personal info or any other source available. I had given Rs 1500 for Rs 300 book to a Crossword Book store Guy because i knew /expected this book will be off the shelf which it eventually did.. I mean it was something like top secret DARPA/ Northrop Grumman 6th Gen Fighter manual Design book which was so secret you are assured that it is for limited time only. It also had personal info on Abdullahs of Kashmir, Pilots, Rajiv and Sonia Gandhi , Advani, V.P. Singh, Narshimha, and Vajpayee......I tried hard to find on Google as it was available but its not there either.... I myself was a Modi Basher /Modi Hater since 2002 but this book changed my entire political perception....Since People here are talking about P.V.N. Rao he was the biggest self claimed Muslim hater one could know. Under his rule many innocent Kashmiris died as he gave a free hand to army to combat militancy, when Babri Demolition happened, he was the one who called Chimanbhai Patel CM of Gujarat and Sudhakar rao Naik CM of Maharashtra to shoot Muslim protestors at sight who protest, riot in the name of Babri.....I still remember thanks to them Innocent Muslims who had came out to protect Hindu school going kids in Muslim predominant areas were shot at point blank range in January 1992 under “Police action”...It was this book which explained why P.V.N. Rao hated Muslims because of atrocities of Razakars during Nizam of Hyderabad and he wanted to give it back which he eventually did.....and speaking of Razakars it also mentioned how Jinnah and Liaquat ali Khan of Pakistan helped Nizam and Razakars by giving them Arms,explosives, rifles and ammunitions from Pak Ordinance by supplying them via Pakistan’s International airlines “Orient Airways” which later changed its name to PIA in 1955,,,,
     
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    am salivating! gonna search scribd for it.
     
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    Google does not even provide any links on this book. Who is the author?
     
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    ^^^^^^^^

    Its a Political Journal i forgot the name of the author it was available on Google Library ie you can read it for free. Even i was Searching it for last 3 days i guess i read about it last in 2013 and it was also on e book Library but i expected it to be disappear like some Djinn from Google Library Like it says in the book /some excerpt from the book itself “Ahmed Patel knows everybody and Everybody knows Ahmed Patel . He is somebody who doesn’t like Lime light but yet people in Political circles fear him. An Ardent and Pious Muslim who belongs to Barelvi Sunni Sect is not flashy Glitzy nor show off wealth but still yields immense Political Clout not only in his party but also on opponents. He was close to Rajiv and Sonia from the beginning. When Rajiv (Gandhi) visited Gujarat for Political trips in the 80s Ahmed Patel while receiving Rajiv Gave him Dry Farsan famous from Bharuch which Rajiv Gandhi Loved and desperately asked for....Whenever any Allegations of corruption were found to be upon him he used to say prove it if its true or i will quit...and as usual charges were dropped...That does not say he is not corrupt as one insider from congress told us that he is one who can raise 20 crores or more in some seconds or minutes on just a phone call” During Rajiv Gandhi era he was profoundly called as “Akbar” as Oscar Fernandes was “Antony” and Arjun Singh was”Amar” the famous trio from bollywood Flic “Amar Akbar Anthony”.....On being asked why does he not wear a Muslim Skull cap, grow Beard and wear muslim dress and attires he followed Ajuns Singh saying that in congress it is not about representation of identities but respect of each other as a whole. He believes in absolute secrecy so much so that he doesn’t tell nor no body knows when he goes for namaz and prayers or meets his family during Indo-US Civil Nuclear deal agreement in 2008 days he prayed in some private small Delhi mosque(i forgot the name) with just small security 2-3 personnel without anybody in his party knowing. Babri Demolition had a profound impact on him both on his Beliefs and in personal life as his son was in 10th appearing for his crucial exams during that and he desperately needed Government Bunglow in Delhi which P.V.N. Rao refused to give him even after intervention of Najma Heptulla his close friend during those days. Not only that he was utterly humiliated in front of everybody/ Congress people present during that time by Rao while according to his Beliefs Barelvis who believe in “Noor” light who are in conflict with Deobandis were left weak ie Deobandis got strengthened by Hindus in post Babri India “(i don’t know exactly but it was written something like this that it affected his beliefs and personal life during those days)......This book published in 2009 was at the time when know body knew about him my curiosity about finding big political Personalities who rule India led me to this book....I loved his way of functioning in political sense as @VIP said Sonia relied heavily on him in the same way Modi these days is relying on Shah and Jai Italy (Arun Jaitley)
     
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    "An Ardent and Pious Muslim.......................................That does not say he is not corrupt"

    hmm. :hmm:
    i say corruption has no religion.

    well, this book/article now at the outset seems to be biased against PVNR. can't tell.
     
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    @Shirman Ahmed Patel is not well known in Gujarat, despite being a Gujarati, he can win elections in other states, can offer advice to Gandhis but can't win here in Gujarat because he knows he can't. Modi knows him very well & knows his moves. I'm sure that he's the one who has driven whole congress against PVN Rao with the help of lone Gandhi survived after Rajiv's demise. He's the one who changed the whole course of Congress towards this minority appeasement politics along with other leftists like Jhon Dayal. He's the one who tried very hard to remove Modi from CM chair by filing false allegations against him, providing backbone to likes of Sanjiv Bhatt, Teesta Setalvad,etc.

    The circus which can be seen on TV thses days about Swaraj, Raje; they won't resign if they haven't done anything. He didn't & he won't let others if they haven't done anything wrong.
     

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