Q&A Israeli Society

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  1. pack leader

    pack leader Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    a am new to this forum.
    as an Israeli and a Jew i know my people are vilified by the world media
    want to start this thread with basic info on Israeli society
    population: 7.8 mil
    GDP per capita: 30,000$
    religion : 80% Jews 20% Arabs
    Jewish society :70% secular Zionists 18% religious ultra Zionists 12% religious anti Zionists .
    10% middle - eastern Jews 30% European Jews 60% native Jews.
    Arab society : 15% druze 15% christian 50% Muslim urban 20% Bedouin (Muslim nomad)
    full rights are given too all with one exception
    military service is mandatory for Jews and druze ( the most loyal and respected minority group in Israel ) ,
    is voluntary to christian and Bedouin, is forbidden to Muslim urban (with few exceptions)
    mil service is 3 years for boys 2 years for girls
    i can tell many things about my country but i want to focus on what you what to know ask any q regarding Israel
    and i will try to answer (i am reservist officer in the idf so military q are also welcome)
     
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  3. Oracle

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    First of all welcome to DFI Sir.
     
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    thank you very much
    i hope this will be an eye opening experience to all
     
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    Welcome.

    What does this mean?_religious anti Zionists
     
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    thanks for starting this thread.

    there was survey done by gallup in 2009 in israel which showed a high 51% of the respondents having disapproved the indian leadership, with just 26% having a favorable view. why and what makes the disapproval rate so high and can it be construed that the common israeli has similar disapproval rate for the common indians and for india as a country?

    India's Leadership Unknown to Much of World
     
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    Zionism is just a word that means Jewish nationalism
    this people also known as (haredim ) hate the state of Israel as in there mind we defy god's word by building a Jewish
    state before the coming of the Messiah /
    they don't work they don't inter- marry with other Jews as they consider us unholy they are mostly none - violent
    in many ways they are similar to the American Amish .
    with the advent of capitalism many leave there closed society and join the main stream society .
     
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    Welcome Brother.....Israelis, Japanese, Russians, French etc are always welcomed on DFI (slightly more) than others (lol)!! :)
     
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    you must understand most Israelis have advanced siege mentality we are surrounded by enemy's
    300 mil crazed religions Arabs who want nothing more then to kill us all .
    in the minds of most Israelis only America can resist Arab petro-dollars
    and support Israel .
    India was never seen as a great power until recently and you also seem too close to our enemy's : Syria, Iran, ksa
     
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    Will Israeli's continue to adopt this siege mentality? As far as we know, the only openly threatening government has been Iran, which does not border your small yet innovative nation and has many enemies within the Arab world. How authentic then is the notion that Israel is still surrounded by enemies and everyone wants to kill Israeli's? Truly we are not living in the 50's and 70's anymore, right sir? Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon all have governments who have been involved in high level dialogue with the Israeli government, it is proxy groups who are terroristic in nature that are openly a threat to Israel and Muslims know very well because they've been victimized the most by terrorism, looking at casualty and economic figures. All Arabs and Muslims don't want to annhilate Israel good sir, judging by what's happening on the ground it's almost the other way as perceived by many. It is just that Muslims have been drilled with the same philosophical stance about Israel as the Hasidic Jews who are opposed to a Jewish state, perhaps that is the fault of hundreds-of-years-old books that both Muslims and Jews have, not to mention Christians, such thoughts do not get formed over night..

    ..Thank you for being open to questioning that is a sign of bravery and honesty and I have Israeli friends, they are brave and honest.
     
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  11. Nonynon

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    Glad to see another Israeli in this forum :)
    Welcome to the forum and thx for donating a moment for hasbara. I'm sure you will find the Indian community much friendlier then most others for this matter.
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    We are too close to your enemies? Is that why we buy Mil equipment worth Billions from Israel and do JVs in weapons tech like Barak-3 Missile and Radar systems?

    We are close to some arab nation as part of our History in starting the non-aligned movement. They where members of it and we supported them.

    As for great power it depends on how long back in History you want to go. Most of Human History in the past 5,000 years India,China where the largest powers. We where building forts and trading as far as China to Greece when Europeans where still trying to get out of the German forest.
     
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    India and israel has a lot of cultural aspect that is yet to be recognized and tapped properly , how do you see india and israel coming together in various other fields other than defence .
    i for one know of education in israel is of good standard and similar in india cant w ehave some co-operation on this field , what is the israeli society views on Indian culture and education system
     
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    i don't know much about this subject our basic education is Bellow euro standard and we are trying very hard to improve
    our high education is world class with 4 u in the best 100 u of the world
    we have many JV with American , french and German u (we hate the British and they hate us) in the last 5 years there is a strong
    influx of Chinese students .
    you should adopt the Chinese model create specialist and repatriate them .
     
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    culture: Indian music is very popular in Israel although it's modified by Israeli performers
    since Jewish community's exist all over the world we are not afraid to mix it up
    we combine Indian music with our traditional music and African music
    the end result sounds very nice
     
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    thats very nice, please do share some videos.
     
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    don't listen to stupid journalists , we wont sell any thing of strategic impotence to china
    America will be offended and so will you
    they are not our enemy they don't hate us and we wont hate them
    china is a big market we need the cash
    we trusted you with our satellite tech and gave you full access to our network what else can we possibly do too prove ourselves
     
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    We too gave a lot in exchange do you forget? We gave access to our large market, we offered you our launch vehicles and Geo Stationary technology and our missile program is more advanced and the exchange there was mutual not one sided.

    Also China does hate you, it hates all democracies. Because you dont share an boundary with them you dont understand, if they hate india they will hate israel too.
     
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    Welcome!!

    I have many Jewish friends, both in South Africa and in Aus, and we both have great reciprocal respect for each other and each other's religions and cultures, both belonging to some of the oldest surviving religions in the world!

    The Jewish people also appear to be quite knowledgeable about ancient India and its culture (in my experience at least).

    Just a quick question - what are the druze? never heard of them!
     

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