Premadasa threatened war with India, says former envoy

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    Premadasa threatened war with India, says former envoy | idrw.org

    This threatening might look like a silly outburst of an emotionally wrecked punk, but viewed as apart of the big picture in context of Indo-Pak and Indo-Chinese relations, Lanka will eventually turn out to be a thorn in India's foot in the long run. The Sinhala mentality has not at all changed.
     
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    KS a suggestion let the Gults deal with the Lankans for sometime
     
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    Meherotra did a good job.
     
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    Just the way our policies didnt change.
     
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    Agree with Iamanidiot as in, we need folks who can work with the Lankans dispassionately! There is too many emotions involved when Tamilians are involved in this particular subject!
     
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    You did not get the context of Iamanidiot's post..or that is atleast what I think ;)
     
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    IamanIdiot/KS,

    What was being implied!?
     
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    Elaborate please, your one liners are too cryptic.

    On topic, Mehrotra did good job. And Sri Lanka threatening war is laughable, being smaller than even TN.
     
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    I think he meant more 'physical' action is needed on the sinhalas....:notsure: though..
     
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    Problem is, you have already declared Sri Lanka an enemy, and refuse to allow them to ally with India because of Tamil-Sinhala racial issues. Lately, it has not been Sri Lanka acting hostile to India, but Indian Tamils acting hostile to Sri Lanka. The moment we think about sending Sri Lanka weapons, giving them training, or opening up more bilateral relations with them, you have Tamils going up in arms. So what choice do the Sri Lankans really have?

    As for Sinhala mentality, I'm not sure who hates us more. I had a bad experience with a Sri Lankan Tamil during one India-Pak match, where he couldn't stop insulting India and kept rallying up the Pakistanis against Indians. He said he spits at the country and told me how "my people" (I think he was referring to Indian army Punjabis/Sikhs/Sardars) blew up his uncles house and killed his brothers.

    So really, it's all pretty BS. Sri Lankan Sinhalese hate us because they think all Indians are Tamils, or heavily influenced by Tamils, and Sri Lankan Tamils hate us because they think most Indians are Northies, and hate us recalling the IPKF.

    I think India needs to reach out to Sri Lanka and train more officers of the SLA in India to cultivate good contacts in SL services for the future. It is simply retarted to find out that SL air force personnel were being trained in Tamil Nadu. Hell, the political morons should send them up to North India. All Sri Lankans are most welcomed here!
     
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    The question here is why premadasa is so anti-india to the extent that he went and made a deal with LTTE to get IPKF out of the country which their own govt brought in? what is it that makes Lanka wary of india even today despite India being too lax on their country??
     
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    Premadasa must have been daft to even think of such a silly thing.

    It would have made Ceylon an extension of Indian benevolence.

    India would have donated Ceylon to Maldives to govern!
     
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    Premdassa must have been high on weeds or something.

    Ungrateful duffer. It was the presence of IPKF in North Sri Lanka, that freed the SL Army to tackle the JVP goons in the South. Had it not been for IPKF, SL would have been split into two countries a long time back.
     
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    @bolded part -- How cute...Will it be the same if I said the North Indians dont allow us to become allies with Pakistan because of their past history with them ?

    BTW Send them all the goodies you want. The only demand is also make them accountable for the crimes they committed. Just blind showering of gifts is what we oppose given that the tax money of people from our state is also involved in that. And if you want to develop the relations with them inspite of our concerns go ahead. Just more people here would lose faith in the idea of India.

    And the problem is not we made them enemy. They were already the enemy which gave Pakistan logistic supplies in 71. Much before anything else happened.

    Oh please..the Sinhalese are pretty much educated to understand Indira was not a Tamil nor the IPKF Tamil. If you think ony the Lankan Tamils harbor a grudge against the IPKF, think again. The Sinhalese never took India as their ally nor will they ever take. They are milking you an you guys dont even realize that. I'll be blunt..many of the people up North who support the Lankans dont even know the ABCD of the SInhala-Tamil issue...but they support the SInhalas as a means to one-up over the allegedly hindi-hating Tamils. But they just dont understand that the SInhalas dont love them either. This is my personal experience.
     
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    Sri Lanka not acting hostile to India?? Are you frikking kidding me!! If one fisherman get killed by Pak or some other country.. India issues a strong demarche and takes similar actions or atleast summon the ambassodors. But when Sri Lanka routinely arrests and kills Indian fishermen, we just let them go without even talking to them abt it. Sri Lankans always had a choice like not helping Pak against us or not being in bed with China or not to kill Indian fishermen and so on. They have plenty of choices.. like giving their own country men equal rights!!! But they always used it in the worst way possible. That itself speaks volumes about them.
     
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    Whats the issue with Sri Lanka and Tamils. Till today am unable to understand. please tell me in brief. anyone?
     
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    Not really, since we are often blamed for being "too friendly" and having a "Punjabiyat bonhomie" with the Pakjabis in the first place, and secondly, unlike the Pakistanis, when was the last time Sri Lanka militarily staked a claim on one of India's states and then sent armed insurgents to wage war in that state?

    Whose talking about showering them with "gifts"? There is no such thing as a free lunch; we get something in return, read political leverage. As for accountable for their crimes, there are far too many regimes still to be held accountable and for India to play the role of moral police in a third country's internal affairs would be a geopolitically counter-productive strategy and will be replicating the same method how we lost Burma to the Chinese.

    And we had our own military units stationed inside Sri Lanka at the exact same time! Sri Lanka was and is simply playing good geopolitics; playing one regional power against another to gain benefits from both. And that was also a different era; the Lankans were cozying up to the Americans during the Cold War. It's one of the reasons we trained the LTTE to get back at the Lankans, isn't it? Time to move on.

    Look, I totally support you in your anti-Hindi agitation, and I choose not to speak Hindi myself, preferring to speak my mother-tongue, Punjabi, instead. I don't support the Sinhalese or Tamils, all I support is building a relationship with Sri Lanka.

    Secondly, I never claimed that the Sinhalese love us, but they do not hold the same level of burning hatred I have felt first hand from SL Tamils.
     
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    The issue is ethnicity and the cruel suppression of the Ceylonese Tamils by the Buddhist Ceylonese majority in the the Ceylonese Tamil majority areas!

    That has got some Indian Tamil furious.

    You should have heard Vaiko on TV yesterday enumerating the atrocities on the Ceylonese Tamils.
     
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    This talk is useless and its pretty much rehashing what has already been said by me a 100 times before. It is not something that we could teach anybody...the realization should come from within as anything we say would only be dismissed because we are saying it. India would realize the intentions of the Sinhalese definitely one day...Lets just hope its not too late then.


    Ofcourse..why would they not ? The peacekeeping force wasn't entirely peacekeeping and acted more like an extension of the Lankan army. I refuse to say anything more than this.
     
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    Sri Lanka, China sign 16 new agreements

    Sept 18, Colombo: Sri Lanka and China have signed 16 new agreements focusing mostly on infrastructure development following discussions between the Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa and the visiting Chinese leader Wu Bangguo yesterday.

    Wu Bangguo, China's top legislator and chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress (NPC), is the highest Chinese official to visit Colombo after the end of the war. He arrived in the island on Saturday for a four-day official visit.

    China and Sri Lanka should deepen their strategic coordination and strengthen bilateral exchanges between governments, legislatures and local authorities, so as to enhance mutual understanding and trust, Wu has said, according to Chinese official news agency Xinhua.

    The Chinese leader has said that his government is willing to expand imports from Sri Lanka to promote trade balance and facilitate bilateral cooperation.

    He has suggested that the two countries should strengthen investment cooperation in areas like infrastructure and tourism.

    The two countries signed agreements on a wide range of cooperation that covers infrastructure development in transport, tourism, telecommunications, and port development, official government media said in a release.

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    Agreements for funding several projects including Colombo Lotus Tower Project, Mobile Network Expansion Project and Hambantota Port Development Phase II Project and energy were also signed following the meeting yesterday.

    Three Memoranda of Understanding on Coastal and Marine Cooperation and Finance cooperation have also been signed.

    A mutual agreement has been signed to exempt holders of diplomatic, service or official passports and passports for public affairs between Sri Lanka and China from visa requirements.

    Agreement on economic and technical cooperation between the two countries was also signed.

    Sri Lanka : Sri Lanka, China sign 16 new agreements
     

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