Poverty decline rate doubled during UPA regime

[Yusuf]

HYDERABAD: Terming the comments on the below poverty line (BPL) issue as "unprincipled publicity campaign", deputy chairman of Planning Commission Montek Singh Ahluwalia on Saturday said the rate of poverty decline doubled during the rule of the UPA government as compared to the pre-UPA regime.

"In the pre-UPA period the decline in poverty was taking place at 0.74 per cent per year. After 2004 it is taking place at 1.5 per cent. So, the decline in poverty during UPA period is double," he added.

As per the data released by the Planning Commission, the rate of poverty reduction between 2004-05 to 2009-10 was 1.5 per cent every year whereas it stood at an annual rate of 0.74 per cent between 1993-94 to 2004-05.

"All this criticism that the government is artificially reducing the people below the poverty line is just rubbish. Poverty has gone down from 37.2 per cent of the population in 2004 to slightly less than 30 in 2009-10," Ahluwalia said.

He refuted remarks that the government could be trying to keep major chunk of public from some benefits by showing reduction in poverty line. "This is not true. Many benefits are not linked to poverty line. The most important benefit is Right to Education Act which is not linked to poverty line".

"The next most important is NREGA scheme. This is not limited to poverty line below. Third is food security bill. That is not limited to poverty line. As much as 46 per cent of the country?s people will benefit from this," he explained.

According to him, the Planning Commission does not use daily income figures as basis for calculating BPL people. It takes per-family-per-month figures to calculate the figures.
http://m.timesofindia.com/PDATOI/articleshow/12571282.cms

 

[sehwag1830]

Yes when you fix poverty line at Rs 28 .

 

[sehwag1830]

Because most significant number of poor have died.So no poor=no poverty.

 

[Yusuf]

Because most significant number of poor have died.So no poor=no poverty.

What 50-60 million people have died of poverty?

Yes India has seen good growth rates and it's bound to get people out of poverty. More opportunities are available.

37% at 2004 population level is about 370 million people and 29% of 1.2 billion current population means 350 million.

The absolute number is scary but it also means that if these people get good opportunities and work hard, they will add serious numbers to GDP.

 

[p2prada]

Increase the poverty line to $2 a day and we will see how the claim sticks.

It is obviously manipulation by the UPA. They decrease the poverty line rate while inflation has steadily increased, highest during UPAs tenure.

Bunch of jokers if you ask me.

 

[LurkerBaba]

"The next most important is NREGA scheme. This is not limited to poverty line below. Third is food security bill. That is not limited to poverty line. As much as 46 per cent of the country?s people will benefit from this," he explained.

I stopped taking article seriously after this line.

 

[Tshering22]

Another Congressi propaganda. Cornered, beaten and now insulted even by military, they have nothing to prove. So what's next? Buy sell out media channels and spread lies.

 

[The Messiah]

I stopped taking article seriously after this line.

No you didn't. :cool2:

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Ya when you put your minimum daily wage at 35Rs then surely poverty will come down. I am surprised at 35Rs Congress has still not made 100%, people live on less than 35Rs a day?

 

[Mad Indian]

The cons and its bunch of stupid supporters have quite a nerve to come out with such luntic story spesially after the cons themselves accepted that it was a stupid and useless scheme

 

[Yusuf]

The MNREGA was a good idea but implementation was faulty. The rules of employment could have been different.

I have no doubt that if the NREGA was bought by Narendra Modi, it would have been called sheer brilliance of the man.

Absolute poverty defined by the UN is $1.25 a day which when converted based on PPP is about Rs. 10-15 a day depending on exchange rate. At $2 a day it'd about 30-35.

Poverty can have different meanings in different countries. A poor in America is someone who cannot afford health insurance while health insurance is the last thing on an Indian's mind.

In India the best of intentions does not work when it comes to implementation. That is the fault.

 

[Mad Indian]

The MNREGA was a good idea but implementation was faulty. The rules of employment could have been different.

I have no doubt that if the NREGA was bought by Narendra Modi, it would have been called sheer brilliance of the man.

Absolute poverty defined by the UN is $1.25 a day which when converted based on PPP is about Rs. 10-15 a day depending on exchange rate. At $2 a day it'd about 30-35.

Poverty can have different meanings in different countries. A poor in America is someone who cannot afford health insurance while health insurance is the last thing on an Indian's mind.
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In India the best of intentions does not work when it comes to implementation. That is the fault.

1.MNREG is crap
2. no need to bring Modi here,but since you brought him here-here is the thing,he would not bring an useless crap like that here az it wa nothing than a populist,pseudo welfare gimmick. even if he had did,it would have been properly implementes

3. yiu claim to br neutral but you always speak defending the crap UPA does,why

 

[Yusuf]

Who is defending UPA? You look at it that way.

With millions below poverty and without work, any employment scheme would be a boon. The idea is to increase their purchasing power which has a ripple effect on the economy. India weathered the recession as we are an internal consumption economy while china came down from its double digit growth as it is export driven.

Modi inherited an industrial and developed state to rule where he had to just keep it going further. I am sure if he comes at the national level and has to think about 350 million poor, he will have to come up with a policy.

Again it's not about UPA or NDA. It's about a policy which if implemented properly with further refinement could have done wonders as far as rural poverty goes.

 

[LurkerBaba]

The only way to lift people out of poverty is by giving them jobs in manufacturing (which is labour intensive)

NRGEA, subsidized food, etc is not going to solve the problem.

 

[Mad Indian]

Who is defending UPA? You look at it that way.

With millions below poverty and without work, any employment scheme would be a boon. The idea is to increase their purchasing power which has a ripple effect on the economy. India weathered the recession as we are an internal consumption economy while china came down from its double digit growth as it is export driven.

Modi inherited an industrial and developed state to rule where he had to just keep it going further. I am sure if he comes at the national level and has to think about 350 million poor, he will have to come up with a policy.

Again it's not about UPA or NDA. It's about a policy which if implemented properly with further refinement could have done wonders as far as rural poverty goes.

oh please mnreg is crap. you want to rlly lift people out of poverty,you should invest in infraastructure and work to improve the governance by breaking down tje bureaucracy. then you need to invest in educafion. that is al. and voila-you get investmaent autoaticaly from pruvate players and you give them lots of gobs and improvemnt in the production as well as economy-real economy that is and not inflated npminal one . jusy handing them money is not gona do anything more than trigger inflation.



and your defending of mnreg is defendig the UPA at its worst policy. and this is not the first time you hve defended their stupid policy.


and modi did stop the poor from comitting suicides. so dont say he cant get the poor out of poverty. its non sense

 

[anoop_mig25]

what when this happen :shocked: :shocked:
oho is april 1 st was he fooling us then it was bad joke

 

[niharjhatn]

Because most significant number of poor have died.So no poor=no poverty.

Hey - that gives me an idea - pay half the poor to kill the other half!

Poverty is halved initially, and the other guys get $$$

The only pride I take in changes in poverty is that poverty has declined somewhat without an even mildly effective government, let alone a government hell bent on ridding poverty. Do they have any idea of what measures to actually take?

It shocks me that a guy like APJ Abdul Kalam can reach the upper echelons of government (yeah I know he was only president, lacking real power, but still!) and still not pass an iota of knowledge on those around him.

 

[Mad Indian]

Hey - that gives me an idea - pay half the poor to kill the other half!

Poverty is halved initially, and the other guys get $$$

The only pride I take in changes in poverty is that poverty has declined somewhat without an even mildly effective government, let alone a government hell bent on ridding poverty. Do they have any idea of what measures to actually take?

It shocks me that a guy like APJ Abdul Kalam can reach the upper echelons of government (yeah I know he was only president, lacking real power, but still!) and still not pass an iota of knowledge on those around him.

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if the morons around him are hell bent on not removing poverty,what can he do!?.if you know what i mean

 

[Yusuf]

oh please mnreg is crap. you want to rlly lift people out of poverty,you should invest in infraastructure and work to improve the governance by breaking down tje bureaucracy. then you need to invest in educafion. that is al. and voila-you get investmaent autoaticaly from pruvate players and you give them lots of gobs and improvemnt in the production as well as economy-real economy that is and not inflated npminal one . jusy handing them money is not gona do anything more than trigger inflation.



and your defending of mnreg is defendig the UPA at its worst policy. and this is not the first time you hve defended their stupid policy.


and modi did stop the poor from comitting suicides. so dont say he cant get the poor out of poverty. its non sense

Yeah I will support any policy that helps the country.

Employment generation is required for those who are unemployed.
Implementation is surely a problem. Plus we could have had it fine tuned.

"this is not the first time you have defended UPA policy"

So I should oppose all UPA policies.

 

[VIP]

Who is defending UPA? You look at it that way. "¨"¨With millions below poverty and without work, any employment scheme would be a boon. The idea is to increase their purchasing power which has a ripple effect on the economy. India weathered the recession as we are an internal consumption economy while china came down from its double digit growth as it is export driven."¨"¨Modi inherited an industrial and developed state to rule where he had to just keep it going further. I am sure if he comes at the national level and has to think about 350 million poor, he will have to come up with a policy. "¨"¨Again it's not about UPA or NDA. It's about a policy which if implemented properly with further refinement could have done wonders as far as rural poverty goes.

"¨"¨"©Well, Modi inherited a wealthy state but the state was wealthy because of people,not due to govt. policies.Modi has been giving good infrastructure,plateform and great policies to state.24 hr power supply,water,roads are the basic needs which has been fulfilled by him.What else anybody wants to setup a business?Good policy.Which's also provided.And that's why he's known as the best adminstrator.Other states can also perform well, they lack good free marketing policies and infrastructure, hell even basic stuffs,too.That's the job of govt.Modi did it and he's blessed by people of Gujarat."©"©For policies, Modi would never come up with such socialist policy like mnrega.He would do something else to encourage people to work by themselves.It would beneficiary for everybody.