Poll: Can the present Govt handle a war like situation ? Your view

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Can the present Govt handle a war like situation ? Your view

  1. Yes, they can

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  2. No they cant

    28 vote(s)
    75.7%
  3. Don't Care

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    2.7%
  4. Don't Know

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    5.4%
  1. arya

    arya Senior Member Senior Member

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    Guys, I am thinking how is our current govt doing and what will be condition if a war were to take place tomorrow

    while this govt ostensibly can't deal with food price , corruption , scams, 2g , etc how can they deal with a war ?


    Does the govt have guts to take any decision, like what they will do if china or pakistan undertakes a nuclear attack on India ? o you think our leaders have guts ?


    I would like know your points of view
     
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  3. EagleOne

    EagleOne Regular Member

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    keeping Pakistan a side because there are not in a position to start a war
    and coming to china nuclear strike is highly unlikely .


    and in the senerio u said their will differently have to strike back . their is no other option
     
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  4. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    The army chief just recently issued the statement saying india and its armed forces are not what they were in 62 and more than capable of handling an attack from china let alone pak. The govt has to just support its forces.
     
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    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    you want war? lets look at the situation on the ensuing days

    1. pak will use nuclear weapons- they have no qualms about it, even if it's used on their land against our advancing troops
    2. India which is slated to ne no 3 economy will fall to 21st , right next to Pakistan
    3. you think inflation is now the problem or oil prices? wait till this war starts
    4. 100's of thousands will be killed


    Now tell me oh neo cons of India... how does that scenario look?
     
  6. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Pak nuke blackmail is a bluff. Nothing is going to happen. Nukes are not a weapon of war, but diplomacy.
    Pakistan is not even our concern right now. Its china. And china is not going to attack india for all the other reasons that you gave about the economic aspect.
     
  7. JayATL

    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    A country is most dangerous when it has its back tot the wall ( see Pak). China is not going to attack us , Pak terrorist funding and another 26/11 risks the most real case of war. pak also never signed the no nuclear attack first pact, while India and china have signed it.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    I agree completely with what you said. However, a pact is nothing more than a piece of paper and a diplomatic statement. Whatever happened to the Molotov–Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pact? If we believe that Pakistan is preparing for a nuclear strike, and we have no other way but to use our nukes to neutralise that threat, IMHO, we should toss our 'no first use' policy out of the window. The lives of Indians come first.

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  9. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    We already decided in the soft state thread that Indian leadership is weak. The country needs a change in its leadership more than it needs a modern military. What good is it if you don't have the guts to use it?
     
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    JayATL Senior Member Senior Member

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    use what? what is the mandate for a strong leadership in this case? NUKE Pak first? is that what you armchair Generals call strong leadership?
     
  11. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    The title is can GoI handle a war. Chances are 1 in 1000 it will be nuclear leaving conventional the real scenario. Recent events have shown GoI and the Army Chief do not have the guts to call out China for what it is doing on the LoC. This suggests any response to a Chinese advance would be timid. Defeating a Pak only threat is rather easy, but would GoI have the guts to follow it up by taking PoK and other key areas? Not likely...
     
  12. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    but in the event of pak aggression, why would it be pak with its back to the wall? They attack, we reply. Nukes won't come into the picture.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    May be our own forces are pushing into their territory on the sly. Who knows? As if they will talk about it. And do you suggest we go to war with china for this thing they do?
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Indian soldiers in Chinese territory equal prisoners. India should do the same, if they do not surrender, open fire.
     
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    rcscwc Tihar Jail Banned

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    1. You think India will keep quite? No, India will hit back first and listen later. Not more that a couple of sub kiloton nukes will be needed to turn Karachi into a glass. Can Pakistan dare to nuke Delhi or Mumbai or Kandla? NO.

    2. Not necessarily, but Pak will slide to near the bottom and will not recover in a hurry.

    3. India is a big economy. Short term problems apart, oil supplies will not be affected much.

    4. If body count is your criterion, Pak will suffer more than India.
     
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    rcscwc Tihar Jail Banned

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    Strong leadership does not keep a finger on the nuclear. But does not balk at pressing it, if need be. Do we have such a political or military leadership?
     
  17. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    This is the funniest ever. A couple of subkiloton nukes will turn karachi to glass. Sir sub kiloton won't turn the 240 acres garden across my house into glass.
     
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    Do you think they won't have any option but to do it?? how will they face the people? But again, nukes are not weapons of war. It will not come to that.
     
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    Q: Can present Govt handle war like(???) situation?

    I will consider both opportunities of so called War like situation --

    Offensive: I will agree to appropriate extent that ruling party will hold the pot if to attack or not. But quite frankly; in globalized India with valuable trade relations across oceans & where economic stability holds the growth of every Indian, who wants to invite war??

    Defensive: Having said above, its very childish to question ruling Govt's ability to protect its citizens from cross-border attacks. GOI ruled by any political party (or group of parties) will always strongly defend its safety. Matters of National Security are always handled the best they can be in vulnerable situations. Be it CPI or Sena ruling GOI, India will be always strongly defended. It is very foolish to doubt our armed force's capability to protect Indians.

    Now those hypocrites who still feel insecure in this great nation are free to get lost............
     
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  20. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    There comes the problem you see. We have brave men and decisive commanders no doubt. We have all the ingredients of a professional military in all 3 branches. No doubt. But the rotten head that controls all this is not military and is a part of this government. This head is a puppet himself in the hands of another 2 puppets (the president dadima Patil and that not-so-Singh of a PM) all who's strings are in the hands of Sonia madam and indirectly in puppy Rahul's hands.

    Now keep your hand on your heart and tell me: without a President like Dr. Kalam, without a PM like Indira/Vajpayee, without a DM like Fernandez, and on top of it without a General like Sam Manekshaw; do you seriously and I mean seriously think that what Gen. Singh has been pressed to tell us is genuine? Do you?

    Because I have close cousin brothers in military and if there's a war, they will be the first one to face the incoming PLA. And considering this aspect, I know one thing: This government won't be able to even handle a 80s like situation of PLOTE by Maldives... FORGET a war with China. This is why until we are able to get a better government structure and a proper democracy, I pray that NDA comes to power before any war with China if that is inevitable.

    Funny you say this after 26/11 when this government that rules this land, controls every bit of it and has full authority on it could not do anything against 10 semi-literate school drop-out kids with AKs. That is the confidence GOI has earned from us all Indians, for you. You are saying it is foolish to doubt GOI after this!? LOL!!:rofl::rotflmao:

    COME ON! Snap out of it! We are talking about People's Liberation Army here; not Maldivian police.

    About the second underlined part: NO ONE is doubting our military. All Indians hold the military in supreme regard and respect it beyond any loser politician. Including myself. Each of us is proud of our men and women who stand for the motherland.

    But these noble warriors and patriots are right now under the most vile and pathetic government in India's modern history especially when it comes to defense of the nation. And by under I mean literally under this indecisive, incoherent, unsure, ambiguous, confused, scared, weak, spineless, corrupt, inefficient, lethargic, appeasing, pacifist, stupid, short-sighted government.
     
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  21. S.A.T.A

    S.A.T.A Senior Member Senior Member

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    A govt should able to defend the country irrespective of which party constitutes the govt.The NDA govt was only a caretaker govt when they handled the Kargil war.Infact the one big lesson we need to learn from the Kargil war is that we must not caught in a Constitutional quagmire when in the midst of major crisis,mechanisms must be established to ensure that such constitutional blind spots as the one we faced during the Kargil crisis.
     
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