Poland To Acquire 1,000 New "Tanks"

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  1. Kunal Biswas

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    Poland To Acquire 1,000 New" Tanks"
    Poland To Acquire 1,000 New Tanks | Defense News | defensenews.com
     
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    Sounds like Tank-EX.
     
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    WPB Anders is not a tank but UCP. And most of these 1,000 vehicles will be in IFV variant... if they even purchase so many of them. AFAIK Army is not intrested in a light tank variant.
     
  6. Kunal Biswas

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    BEML already looking at it, I am sure its good in export market..

    Polish UCP is under RFI for Light tanks in Indian army..
     
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    Also this development also suggest that Ander concept variants are ready..
     
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    WPB Anders for Polish Army is not ready, OBRUM and Bumar are waiting for the initial and final requirements list, then they can start full scale research & development, and can build real prototypes, untill that, they have only single technology demonstrator.
     
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    This is just one of four variants builded on the same hull shown recently.

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    LT/FSV with 120mm gun in a Polish designed turret.

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    LT/FSV with Belgian CT-CV turret and 105mm gun.

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    IFV with Hitfist-30P turret.

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    IFV with Hitfist-OWS unmanned turret.

    All these fours are just different turrets and internal configuration, build on a single and the same hull. It shows clearly that our technology demonstrator is from base, prepared to be reconfigured if needed to a different vehicle variants.
     
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    why to acquire 1000 tanks for such a small country?
     
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    And why not? And this is a journalist mistake. We won't aquire 1,000 tanks, but 1,000 vehicles based on WPB Anders. There are plans to also quire 400 real MBT's in future.

    So the planst looks like this:

    1,000 WPB Anders, and approx 400 of them in IFV variant to replace old BMP-1's. Rest will be specialized variants like C2 vehicles, LT/FSV vehicles etc.
    400 new MBT's, the best solution would be to manufacture our own design. As a stop gap before we design our own tank, 124 Leopard 2A4's in our inventory will be upgraded to Leopard 2PL standard. Later new design should be inducted.

    Besides this, on paper Poland allready have approx 900 tanks.

    Besides calling Poland small country is... ignorant, did You ever seen a map of Europe? We are one of the bigger countries in Europe.

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    Good new. All modern history Poland did for itself and export tanks. 1000 machines are eventual are plans on long years forward, But Poland is necessary to restore its military-industrial complex.
     
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    We are doing this slowly. You know, there is an old proverb in Polish Rome was not builded within days. ;)
     
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    Should import 1000 Arjun Mak 2
     
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    Why should we import a tank that does not use standard NATO ammunition, and have some components from Russia like K-5 ERA? There is any reason for us to do this?
     
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    Those are not K5 era from Russia..

    Made and deign in India based on K5..

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    Though Arjun - 2 us yet to come out..
     
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    Still Arjun Mk2 will not fit in to our requirements.

    First it is still based on 1980's design scheme. Second it does not use a standard NATO gun. Third problem is the problems of this design well known to us, and our designers are well acknowledged with such things. So no, it will not fit our requirements. Still nobody says India can't try to promote their design and try to sell it somehwere. ;)
     
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    At 35t is a too heavy to be an IFV. The logistics tail would be enough to yank down even the best chains. It does help being common chassis but fuel to move would be prohibitive.
     
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    35 t too heavy? That's why the current Marder with mine-protection kit has a weight above that.. amd the Marder 2, the Puma, the GCV prototypes, the BMPT-64 etc....

    French might like light vehicles like AMX-10, AMX-10P, ERC-90 and VBCI, but other countries see this different.
     

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