Playing checkers with China

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  1. maomao

    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    India's conciliatory disposition and downplaying the threat from China won’t fetch us results. To deal with China, India has to act like India.

    When it came to China, my mother, an Army wife, used to tell her son, a General, “With Pakistan India is cocky but when it comes to China it becomes a mouse.” That was some 10 years ago. Last week, at Bali, during the East Asia Summit, we were told by Indian officials accompanying Prime Minister Manmohan Singh that he acted tough by rejecting China’s objections to India’s presence in South China Sea and told Premier Wen Jiabao that our interests were “purely commercial”. Equally firmly, Mr Wen warned ‘outside forces’ from getting embroiled in disputes in South China Sea. The warning was repeated on Monday. Will New Delhi back down? Let’s see.

    Mr Singh has repeatedly said there is “enough space for the rise of both India and China”. But Beijing says that space is in certain areas of cooperation. Besides already becoming Air India’s Frequent Flier of 2011, Mr Singh, by his own admission, has met top Chinese leaders 28 times. That’s another record for any Indian Prime Minister.

    Except for trade which is mainly to China’s advantage, there is little else to glow about. Chinese transgressions on the border continue. Their military buildup has outstripped our conventional deterrence. Beijing has quietly excised 2,000 km of the Ladakh border de facto trilateralising the bilateral Kashmir dispute.The India-China dispute is ready for entry in the Tussaud’s museum.

    Numerically border negotiations have overtaken Mr Singh’s record meetings with Chinese leaders. Eight rounds from 1981 to 1987, 14 rounds from 1988 to 2001; 13 rounds since 2003 till the 14th dialogue between Special Representatives later this month. Both sides have sequentially toyed with ‘swap of territory’, delineation of Line of Actual Control and the ongoing political, economic and strategic dialogue.

    India missed out on the swap deal in the 1960s. The Chinese backed off from exchange of maps fearing the LAC would become hostage to the presence of Indian troops. The current three-stage talks —agreement on political parameters, framework for delineation and the actual delineation — are deadlocked after China reneged on the agreement on not disturbing settled areas. Since then, only the two Special Representatives know what is going on. China has successfully diverted the border problem towards economic and strategic issues. The chimera of a breakthrough is posited even as Mr Singh repeatedly urges his interlocutors to expedite resolution of the border dispute.

    A new joint mechanism for maintaining peace and tranquility on the un-demarcated LAC is in the offing even as China has quietly pushed troops into Gilgit-Baltistan, illegally excised from Pakistan Occupied Kashmir by Pakistan. The rationale for the glacial pace of border talks was confirmed last week at a seminar at New Delhi’s United Services Institution by the articulate and moderate professor Zhou Gencheng of the Shanghai Institute of International Studies.

    He explained that at present the intention was to maintain status quo on the border so that peace and stability prevail. He elaborated that the Treaties of Peace and Tranquility in 1993 and Confidence Building Measures in 1996 were designed to do just that and added the customary appendage of the border being ‘a legacy of history, very complicated and requiring time and patience’. So much for the optimists who are expecting a breakthrough.

    Make no mistake: China will drag the border dispute at great cost to India till it feels it can impose a settlement on its terms and after the Dalai Lama has reached heaven. China has developed a deep and abiding interest in Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh (which it still calls South Tibet) which has become the sticking point in the border dispute. Privately, the Chinese are conveying that if India lets them retain Aksai Chin and Tawang, it will give up all other claims including Arunachal Pradesh. Tawang is important for China because the Khampa movement of the 1960s in Tibet had its roots here; tax records show Tawang as part of Tibet and a future revolt in Tibet could spring from Tawang.

    India’s military preparedness is woefully inadequate and has remained virtually static for the last two decades except for some recent force accretions and infrastructure upgrades. Only a tiny part of the military enhancements recommended in 1988 are being implemented. Union Minister for Defence AK Antony admitted that we are lagging behind in modernisation. The Chinese are way ahead in their infrastructure and defence capabilities. That is why a Tawang grab or a Kargil-like skirmish have become possible.

    But there is a simpler Confucian strategy to achieve the same objective: Keep India tied down to South Asia by prolonging the border dispute and encircling India. Beijing is back at playing its old game in the North- East by assisting Indian insurgent groups.

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    This is an apt reply by one of the readers (Vedam)!! I agree fully and can add more to it!!
     
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    What an effin joke. I have two oranges. You steal one for me. And then legitimise the robbery by saying "I'll let you keep one orange if you officially give me the other one" :shocked:

    India is being completely raped by a cunning CCP that has no intentions on its mind to ever achieve peaceful parity. The politicians know that they are behind on infrastructure and defense, but rather than adopting an aggressive stance either by bolstering defence or securing allies (imo a combination of both will be best) it has fallen to some bastardization of "passive resistance", better suited for invertebrates in such a situation.

    When the crux of the debate relies on the legitimisation of the Tibetan occupancy, if India foolishly continues to pursue that Tibet is a part of China as some weird form of appeasement. How the f*** can you be so naive, that such a concession will "satiate" the CCP appetitie - all it has done is acted as the entree for more and more aggressive posturing. Very soon, if such actions continue, China will have its own private access to the bay of Bengal!

    Reminds me of bloody Neville Chamberlain and the appeasement policy shown to Hitler. And look how well that panned out!

    I just don't get how ANY dialogue can be really conducted regarding other affairs when the CCP continue to claim Indian and Tibetan territory. How retarded are our politicians that they believe a status quo is any way beneficial to India? They are just legitimising Chinese occupancy, who have stolen territory like a common thief.

    PM Manmohan Singh, as much as I respect his calm demeanour, the pitiful weakness of our foreign policy (or lack of) is bleeding the country, slowly but surely, and will end in a mortal blow unless positive changes are made!!
     
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    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    CCP is not cunning rather they are outright brash and on the face - it is the Indian leadership that has been meek, out right foolish, coward and spineless due to various personal advancement motives (this includes policy makers which include corrupt /elite babus) or we can say that we have been led by India hating ultra-fools who have been too engrossed in self-indulgence and imitating their slave masters that they started taking the nation as their birth right to overlord by various means be it sold-out media, money power, muscle power, aligning with foreign agencies and powers et al......Nehru being at the helm of this list.
    If media and other self-proclaimed intellectuals could project and create a conducive atmosphere for a 5th grader Italian waitress to become the overlord (PM) of 1.2 Billion with over 50 million graduates, we can't even imagine how deep this rot runs in our society and nation, which is filled with traitors in the form of intellectuals or alternate thinkers (read: commi bastad@@s and pro mafia coterie)!
     
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