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Post opeartional once, Dont repost the onces i already posted, Wheeled and opeartional not export varients..coming next
Carry on..
Post opeartional once, Dont repost the onces i already posted, Wheeled and opeartional not export varients..coming next
I'm very surprised that such comment and rash conclusion were from you ,a senior military enthusiast active in various forums ,...a little disappointed...Kunal Biswas
QJY 88 is not operational, The pic is old not even the uniform was updated, Other rifles are not included coz its not standered issue to the majority of PLA..
You have to post what Mountain Infantry carries aka light infantry foot soldiers..
HMG are not included coz it cannot be carried for assaults.. .
....... All i can do is smile at your post, Pherhaps must have done little reserch by yourself..I'm very surprised that such comment and rash conclusion were from you ,a senior military enthusiast active in various forums ,...a little disappointed...
you guys may just say'No,it's not ...'rashly without any proof,but I have to pile up loads of material and pics here ...unfair ,isn't it?
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gun is not new but to you ,pic is old,and of course the user's uniform is old ,type 07 uniform was provided in 2008...LOL ,what a logic...
IA has INSAS,AKM imported from East Eurpoe, AK47 in large amount in service ...even the AR21 for elite force... actually INSAS is not the majority rifile in IA...0.96Million IA ,and 1.6Million are the largst two Armies in the world, with the same limited budgets, it's not possible to upgrade all the weapon in short term for both aymies.
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'QJY 88' -- the project began in 1989 ,after 9 years' development, it passed the operation certification in 2000 and the production began .
this MG weight 11,8 kg with bipod( + 4.2 kg infantry tripod.) first it was used as Battalion level MG( HMG status with tripod in fire support company). and now it was arranged into platoon(LMG status without tripod ,3 per platoon). platoon leader will put them into the reinforced squad. it is unfamiliar to those foreign military fans as mentioned.
a patloon from unkown unit.
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HMG is the tradional and important Battalion or Company Level fire support weapon in ALL armies, I don't think it's exceptional in IA...and there is a fire support company in every Battlion of PLA Army where these HMGs belongs to...
China has a long history of developping a serial of Light Weight HMGs .if you are interested,I could make another thread...these HMGs are the lightest in the world which have to make a dent in accuracy and continuity .
here, u you could see how a HMG opreation unit makes up...3 person (a shooter and 2 assistant shooter) for a HMG.1 for gun,1 for tripod,1 for ammo..others in the platoon would help for the extra ammo in the march.
Modern Firearms - Type 88 GPMGThe Type 88 general purpose machine gun(Chinese designation QJY 88) is intended to replace obsolete Type67 machine guns in service with PLA. New weapon uses recently adopted 5.8mm ammunition of Chinese origin, although it is believed that a special loading with heavier bullet is used for this weapon, as opposed to QBZ-95 assault rifleand QBB-95 light machine gun. Despite the"type 88" designation the gun is relatively young, as it is believed to enter the service during first years of 21st century.
It must be noted that according to available information Type 88 machine gun isnot so popular among its users in PLA. While it is somewhat lighter than previous Type67 GPMG, it also lacks its range and lethality; compared to western 5.56mm LMGs such as FN Minimi, Type 88 is significantly heavier,while having almost same combat effectiveness.
Sending you in PM.@kunal 1 question a typical Indian company gets how many HMG ?
to be more specific can you describe the firepower of a usual Indian company size fighting unit...
why not here? i'm interested as wellSending you in PM.
this is what DZJ08 is forDZJ08 80mm single shot rocket launcher, has garnered a good reputation among Chinese troops who have been able to use it. In development for eight years, it reached the troops in 2008. It has a 300 meter range, a 1.65 kg (3.63 pounds) warhead and the entire weapon weighs 7.5 kg (16.5 pounds). Compare to PF-89 of 200m range also, So DZJOB is considered better RL for such terrain
T72M1 weighs?Kunal Biswas
Tracks are put of question coz they are heavy and big for the terrain..
Kunal Biswas
Other RL are over weight and only for static placements..
PF98 120mm
The reusable tube launcher is fibreglass-wrapped and weights under 10 kg
#3ROCKET LAUNCHER:
The Carl Gusta ....
Weight of weapon complete with telescopic sight and bipod 10 Kg Approx....
shiphone
this MG weight 7.6Kg( 11.8kg including tripod.) first it was used as Battalion level MG( HMG status with tripod in fire support company). and now it was arranged into platoon(LMG status without tripod ,3 per platoon). platoon leader will put them into the reinforced squad. it is unfamiliar to those foreign military fans as mentioned.
why did you edit my words in the quote?Quoted by you
this MG weight 11,8 kg with bipod( + 4.2 kg infantry tripod.) first it was used as Battalion level MG( HMG status with tripod in fire support company). and now it was arranged into platoon(LMG status without tripod ,3 per platoon). platoon leader will put them into the reinforced squad. it is unfamiliar to those foreign military fans as mentioned.
oh, you mentioned it right now? after so many posts? and even bring the BMP2s with you into the battle field? I couldn't understand why these vehicles couldn't carry these so called heavy weapons.Regarding HMG, IA use AGL-30 mostly than HMG for heavy fire support, As far as i can tell you still dont get my point, The Infantry weapons Comparison are posted are based on platoon level of a Light Mountain Infantry at heights above 11,500 ft to 8,757 ft, The fire arm must able to be carrierd on LRPs, You can ask qestions rather making childish/ Amateur comments..
å‘å°å¹³ Xiangxiaoping --famouse battle hero.Kunal Biswas
SVD are largely equipped in Chinese para military not PLA, Post a new pic with solider with SVD i will add..
Their are no infos on Company level abt IA on the net, if that was open i would have posted info, But as its dont i am not going to put such info on open forum..why not here? i'm interested as well
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I'm demonstrating the FIREPOWER of PLA Army AS A SYSTEM . not a simple 1 vs 1 weapon comparison...every type weapon has its value in fire system in the battelfield...before you understand it, I don't think all I have done is valuable to you and the purpose of the orignal thread...
DZJ08 have different warheads for use, And its better than most other RL in PLA, So its best as its lighter and effective in 300m ranges..this is what DZJ08 is for
a Tank killer and a wall breaker are inchangable in PLA Army weapon system. and I would like to add one more member into this serial of one time use(disposable) RL---no special operater aranged in Squad, every member could bring one.
Thermobaric Weaponry 80mm
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and no double standard here...please.
BMP-2 and T-72M1 have infrastructure to get into front-lines, These tanks and APC are airlifted from major bases in India to Arunachal pradesh, Whereas Roads connecting China and India on Arunchal Pradesh are able to hold no more than 5-10 ton, 8-10 toner trucks can pass may be a 8x8 apc..
I have provided the link say so..why did you edit my words in the quote?
LMG status without tripod is used in platoon .it weights 7.6kg..that's what you see in those 2 pics ,BTW, this LMG operation team has 2 members ,shooter and assitant.
HMG status with tripod is 11.8kg, but team has the 3rd member carrying the tripod and some ammo
the weight of the other 2 MGs you might be familiar with...
7.62mm FN MAG 11.79kg
7.62mm Bren L4, 8.68-10.35kg
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I have seen SVD in Chinease armed forces but SVD is not the majority of firearm used by PLA sharp shoother, so its not in the list..å‘å°å¹³ Xiangxiaoping --famouse battle hero.
Tpye 79: copy of SVD, into service after 1979. even before the Forming of Armed Police in June 1982
Tpye 85: improved 79, into service after 1985
and this is still the standard weapon of the Sharpshooters from the 1st,4th,7th Squad of each company of the Border Defence Regiment along the LAC which still equipped with 7.62mm Type 81 rifles
Its understandable by looking at the details, Why wouldn't i add AGL-30 and FN-MAG/PKM to IA inventory ?oh, you mentioned it right now? after so many posts?
I would go on at my pace, basicly no reply to your questions....what I post here is just for you reference only... you are free to choose what is useful for you...cheers,
I know Chinese laguage might be main barrier for you guys to get info about PLA, that's the fact ... and I thought you had better knowledge about PLA weapons than most of indian friends here(your MP experience might help), that's why I would like to reply in the original thread and had this thread...but please don't make the same mistakes as some others.Originally Posted by Kunal Biswas
DZJ08 have different warheads for use, And its better than most other RL in PLA, So its best as its lighter and effective in 300m ranges..
it seems there were loads of news about infrastructure Upgrading on the chinese side of LAC coming from Indian Media every year . most of chinese get to know what chinese goverment and PLA is doing with their money from these indian news...sincere thanks to free democratic media ....#12 post by shiphone
When confilct occurs and after the arriving of the First Wave reinforcement consists of Fast Reaction Unit and Light MECHANIZED INFANTRY and Motorized Infantry Brigades/Divisions. PLA Army would send their Heavy Units as Reserves in case any unfavourable situation , although most of battles would go on in the Mountains or Jungles terrain. IA already has some Armour and Mechanized INFANTRY Div.s deployed in this Area or near around,and a STRIKE Corp may be raised in near future...They might meet each other if there was some war....
Do the Chinese use Steyr AUG ? This looks like a Steyr AUGsorry ,I was watching the TianGong-1 lunching on TV
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ZBD04 -2ed Generation BMP-3 Style turret.100mm,30mm,7.62mm, Missile,around 20Tones.
ZBD04A Heavy Armour version Improve ZBD04, 10Tones heavier, coming soon
Airsofters....Do the Chinese use Steyr AUG ? This looks like a Steyr AUG
Heavy mechanized units are stationed back on both sides, Coz the front-lines are over mountains, No heavy equipment can go there, Exception can be PL-2..next will be Tracked SPHs in Heavy Units...update later.
it seems there were loads of news about infrastructure Upgrading on the chinese side of LAC coming from Indian Media every year . most of chinese get to know what chinese goverment and PLA is doing with their money from these indian news...sincere thanks to free democratic media ....