Philippines eyes greater US military presence

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  1. SajeevJino

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    Philippines eyes greater US military presence


    US and Philippine officials will meet this week to discuss expanding American presence in the Asian nation, a senior diplomat said, amid tensions with China over its claims to vast waters in the region.


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    The meetings in Manila on Tuesday and Wednesday will have a special focus on defence and regional matters, Philippine Assistant Secretary for US affairs Carlos Sorreta told reporters.

    "Foremost in the agenda is the increased rotational presence" of US forces in the Philippines, he said Monday.

    This refers to US troops and ships passing through the country for training or exercises, circumventing a constitutional ban on foreign bases in the Philippines.

    He said the meetings with US assistant secretaries for defence and state was not about the territorial dispute between the Philippines and China in the South China Sea.

    But he said "as public officials answerable to their people and their security, its very difficult not to discuss the West Philippine Sea," using Manila's term for the South China Sea.

    The two countries' officials will discuss boosting the number of visits of American troops, ships and aircraft while increasing US defence aid to the poorly-equipped Philippine military, Sorreta said.

    The discussions will also look at more training for Filipino troops and increased help in humanitarian and disaster relief.

    A rotating force of 600 US Special Forces has been stationed in the southern Philippines since 2002 to help train local troops in how to combat Islamic militants.

    The Philippines has sought to boost its ties with the United States in recent years following increasing aggressiveness by China in claiming virtually the entire South China Sea, even up to the coasts of its neighbours.

    In October, a Philippine official said a former US naval base in this country, facing the South China Sea could play a key role as a hub for American ships as Washington moves to strengthen its presence in the Asia-Pacific.

    Tensions with China have increased since April following a standoff between Philippine and Chinese ships over South China Sea shoal which both claim as their territory.

    Sorreta said China should not be alarmed by the effort to improve Philippine-US ties.
    But, he stressed, "with our without the Americans, we will take our stand".

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    China's Foreign Ministry will issue another statement condemning Philippines' provocative mischief and it's futile for PH and Japan to cozy up.

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    Furthermore Huangyan will be built into Diego Garcia on SCS to keep PH+JP from any adventure.
     
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    China with her belligerency is isolating herself.

    It will only make the US presence in the area more aggressive and that would do neither China nor those of the region any good.

    It appears that the US is slow pedaling, one wonders if it is a clever ruse to make China bolder in its belligerency whereby the US become the 'saviour' and then rules the waves, which they, in any case do, but in this case, it would be more visible and aggressive!

    Almost as a slap to tell China to stuff the dots and dashes that China has conjured to indicate what China owns, up where China wants.

    The situation is not very conducive to peace and China is responsible to upgrading the tensions without any strength behind its claims.
     
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    Sorry I don't folllow you.
    Huangyan is not a wedge island sitting between Philippines and Japan. It is a district inside the East China coast. What unique advantage does China expect from militarising Huangyan?
     
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    ah, U must have mixed up Diaoyu (meaning Phishing) and Huangyan (Yellow Rock).

    Below is a comparison btwn Huangyan and Diego Garcia

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    Now the lagoon has been blocked by Chinese from access



    Diego Garcia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Diego garcia is an island.. goodluck on your plans. Send me a postcard.
     
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    I guess only old people in the Philippines remember the Japanese when they were armed.
     
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    really terrible after a search
    And Japanese followed no war rules at all. They even killed Chinese diplomats in Manila :shocked:

    Vice Consul Mok | Inquirer Opinion
     
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    By the time the Japanese were driven out, the city was in ruins, becoming the second most destroyed Allied capital city during the war, the first being Warsaw in Poland. Manila massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    The willingness of the Philippines to officially endorse the remilitarization of Japan only means 1 thing: the danger of the current China far outweighs any historical barbarity of the Japanese...
     
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    No, it means people do not remember history.

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" -- George Santayana

    If I am not mistaken, the victims of historical Chinese barbarity have been Chinese.
     
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    PRC has learnt well from Imperial Japan.PLA is the new IJA.
     
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    Bill Clinton killed Chinese diplomats in Belgrade.
     
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    Not means people decide based on current exigencies.


    The Vietnamese would be the right people to address this...
     
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    Lair one it is you who are going around claiming islands and areas that dont belong to china this claim is noting more than a threat to world peace and you telling us a country who has no history of invading other people who as a very small fleets of old ship and 10 flying airforce trying to defend its self provocation? really how stupid can one country be well in case no one believes you people anyway expect your client states and we never foget our past but unlike chinese we filipino blame the old Japanese for World War 2 not the current Japanese are just defend their country against Chinese imperialism we have common threat so as Vietnam it brought us closer thanks to the Chinese bullying but the fact is the alliance is not to blame but your country for being arrogant and aggressive and you for blindingly obeying them you people are being disenfranchise in your own country while they get richer you get little and hell its not only in your people they steal but from other people too minerals Resources in Africa here In ASEAN Myanmar and here in the Philippines not paying taxes and destroying the Environment and snuggling recourse out of my country tax free so please really we are evil we are the bad guys calling the victim the criminal while evidence is everywhere and anywhere is just an insult to any Justice system and to all so please who believes this really?
     
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    here is the thing both china/vietnam/ph/japan/taiwan has historical influence in scs or diaoyu island so what make claims from japan/taiwan/vietnam/ph more legit than china. especially these islands hasn't inhabit for long time. vietnam has overlapping claim with phillippine, is there claim also false, only claim from ph are legit. so is it claim from japan legit but not from china/taiwan.
     
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    Yes, when people knows their action won't receive any punishment, they certianly don't follow the rules.

    American could afford spitting on Chinese face since they are the sole superpower. Does Japan have that power? I don't think so.
     
  21. Zero_Wing

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    Overlapping yes but both are not trying to outdo one other and both are willing to use international law so that problem as at less a solution while china likes to claim all even the waters which is illegal in international law
     

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