Philippines Eyes Frigates From India

[Oblaks]

"MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines, which is beefing up its defense capability, is considering the procurement of naval frigates from India.

Philippine officials discussed this the other day with a visiting delegation from India led by External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid.

India has intensified its engagement with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations as part of its "Look East" policy in the past decade."


Phl eyes frigates from India | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

 

[W.G.Ewald]

So will China complain to India and then India will have to deny getting the complaint?

 

[ladder]

So will China complain to India and then India will have to deny getting the complaint?

The present Govt. of India would deny getting formal request/ enquiry from Philippines instead.
They would rather give two OPVs to Sri Lanka than co-operate with Manila.

 

[nirranj]

Well Salma Kurshi will say to the delegates that "I Myself like to livee on board a Chinese warship. You can go directly to beijingyi to buy some of the world class frigates"

Utter Nonsense.

 

[Ray]

Indian shipyards are not meeting the Indian Navy requirement, so the question of selling naval vessels is a moot point.

However, one or two of the frigates already under the mast can be sold to keep the strategic partnership active.

India should care for itself and not get bothered with what China says or does.

 

[Patriot]

It will be better , if we can lease one old frigate to Philipines Navy for the time being & start manufacturing new one for them. Now we have capacity as new pvt. player like L&T, ABG & Pipvav are there. Govt. shipyard can enrope them in executing such requirement.

Important thing is we should entertain such requirements in order to place our foot in this market and simultaneously it shall provide us diplomatic & strategic advantages.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

There has been no such report from the Indian media.

 

[apple]

As far as I'm aware, almost of all the ships of the Philippines Navy are ex US ships that were "gifted"/ sold at a very cheap price.

The Philippine's has had ongoing, long term issues with Muslim seperatists and what limited funding has been available has gone to gearing up the Philippine's Army and Air Force for COIN operations. The Philippine's Navy has been the forgotten cousin and has had to make do with WW2 era rust buckets. The Philippine Navy's "new" frigate is an ex US coast guard boat that served in Vietnam.

While it's good the Philippine might build up their strategic capabilities so they can stand up to the Chinese, am pretty dubious they'll be making any major investments in warships...

 

[drkrn]

Indian shipyards are not meeting the Indian Navy requirement, so the question of selling naval vessels is a moot point.

However, one or two of the frigates already under the mast can be sold to keep the strategic partnership active.

India should care for itself and not get bothered with what China says or does.

we need friends too.look east policy is in action

 

[sayareakd]

try to put Akash missile on warships for our need and for foreign orders. That way with Ship we can sell air defence radar and missile.

I was told that Rajandra radar was installed at Ship, so akash too can be put on ship, if we can make it auto loader for it, then it will be even better.

 

[SajeevJino]

try to put Akash missile on warships for our need and for foreign orders. That way with Ship we can sell air defence radar and missile.

I was told that Rajandra radar was installed at Ship, so akash too can be put on ship, if we can make it auto loader for it, then it will be even better.

Sir ..was that the Vertical Launch Trails of Akhash Missile Completed

 

[sayareakd]

Sir ..was that the Vertical Launch Trails of Akhash Missile Completed

no but we can use the same as done by others.

 

[Compersion]

The Philippines as well as India have a lot of commonalities. In terms of business relationship (stop gap to USA), language and strategic use. India really needs to take advantage of its local business conglomerates (Britannia, bajaj, tatas, etc, etc) and expand into markets like Philippines and Indonesia in a first step approach.

we can also start by patrolling at the request of Philippines near their seas and contract with them to build a few frigates. we can also give training to the Philippine armed forces what we do in Kashmir. How to setup a infiltration grid and terminate terrorists.

 

[ramakrishna]

Philippines eyes frigates from India​

The Philippines, which is beefing up its defence capability, is considering the procurement of naval frigates from India.Philippine officials discussed this the other day with a visiting delegation from India led by External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid. India has intensified its engagement with the Association of South-east Asian Nations as part of its "Look East" policy in the past decade.

Khurshid, who met yesterday with Vice President Jejomar Binay, said the relationship between the two countries is "extremely important." "Now is the time to begin a new chapter," Khurshid said yesterday over lunch with Filipino officials as he emphasized the two countries' "shared aspirations and shared attitudes."

The Philippines is eyeing the procurement of two frigates from India, a nuclear power with its own military shipbuilding capability. India has built its own stealth-capable warship, which visited Manila several months ago. The Indians are developing their first aircraft carrier and will acquire one soon from Russia.

Like the Philippines, India has a territorial dispute with its neighbor China. Khurshid told The STAR yesterday that his government was pursuing engagement with the Chinese.The other day, Khurshid and his delegation met separately with Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario and Philippine security officials.

Khurshid, who proceeded to Manila from meetings in Brazil, leaves for Singapore today.The Philippines is currently finalizing the procurement of fighter jets from South Korea. Not connected with territorial row The defense department maintained yesterday that the acquisition of fighter jets from South Korea has nothing to do with the territorial row in the West Philippine Sea.

"This has been planned even before the developments in the West Philippine Sea," defense department spokesman Peter Galvez said in a phone interview. Galvez was asked for a reaction after a Japanese paper reported on Monday that China had asked South Korea not to sell FA-50 jets to the country.

Galvez declined to comment on the report itself but said the military's upgrade efforts are not related to the territorial row with China. The defense department previously said that the lead-in fighter jets acquisition project would boost the territorial defense capabilities of the country. Officials, however, stressed that the modernization program is not directed toward any country.

Philippines eyes frigates from India | idrw.org

 

[kseeker]

already posted.

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/indo-pacific-east-asia/55243-philippines-eyes-frigates-india.html

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

Philippines; MND to publish light Frigate tender
Monday, 07 October 2013 05:14

Philippino MND will soon publish a $420 million tender for two new-build light frigates for the Philippine Navy. Naval shipbuilders from Australia, France, South Korea, and the United States are expected to compete for the program, which calls for the acquisition of a platform with a displacement of at least 2,000 tonnes and a length greater than 100m. Recent rumors hinted that the Korean Incheon design (Hyundai) is favored.

LINK:
dmilt.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8115hilippines-mnd-to-publish-light-frigate-tender&catid=3:asia&Itemid=56

 

[TrueSpirit]

Sir ..was that the Vertical Launch Trails of Akhash Missile Completed

Who is Akhash ?

 

[Oblaks]

There has been no such report from the Indian media.

Maybe that is because bidding is still going on. Garden Reach Shipbuilding is one of the bidders

https://philgeps.gov.ph/GEPSNONPILO...DirectFrom=OpenOpp&Type=category&BusCatID=139

"The 11 firms are Piriou Naval Services, Navantia Sepi (RTR Ventures), Thyssenkrupp Marine System, STX Offshore & Shipbuilding, Damen Shipyards, Fincantieri, STX France SA, Hyundai Heavy Industries, Inc., Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Ltd., DCNS France and Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. Ltd., according to data The STAR has obtained from the Department of National Defense (DND)."

11 firms interested in P18-B ship deal | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

 

[ladder]

India is getting request for warship/ OPV from different countries.

An OPV like the Saryu class built to coastguard specification would not cost more than 80-100 million US$.
It will be an ideal grant to a friendly nation and would give a great visibility to the strategic relationship.
A developmental project of the same value in that country may be beneficial but not carry the same strategic weight-age.

If we list the current request for naval platforms to Indian shipyards
we are building.
one OPV for Mauritius at GRSE
4 Patrol boats for Vietnam is Planned.
A west African country has planned to acquire 2( option for 2 more) OPV from Pipavav.
2 OPV for Sri Lanka is also under consideration.
OPV/Frigates for Myanmar is under negotiation.
And now Philippines wishes 2 Frigates from Indian Shipyard.

But, are Indian Shipyard prepared?
Are they prepared to handle the addl. orders outside the Indian Navy and Coastguard.

Among Defence Shipyards Hindustan shipyard is not doing well, so also ABG,Bharati and A&A Gujarat are faced with liquidity crisis and struggling with current orders.

The one's that are doing well, work too slow to compete globally.The target of 60 months for major Platforms and 36-42 months for non-capital platforms need to be reduced.

The overseas orders not only are important under Industrial pov but also for strategic pov. It will be a meaningful step towards the larger role which India want's to play in that region.

So, it's time GOI to step in and address the deficiencies in the sector and provide impetuous for capacity building in the sector.

But is it a tall ask for the present Govt.? Time would tell.

 

[praneetbajpaie]

Before getting excited, read the comments from ordinary Filipinos below.