People Aren't Smart Enough for Democracy

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    People Aren't Smart Enough for Democracy to Flourish, Scientists Say - Yahoo! News
     
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    I follows then that we should be ruled by academics. :-D
     
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    According to plato in an utopia, it should be run by the elites;)
     
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    Did Plato go to Harvard?
     
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    No But he was the wisest of all at his time...


    Besides what he said about republics is this- "I reject any form of government that gives the same weight to the opinion of an village idiot and that of Aristotle" ;)
     
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    And what did Aristotle himself say?

    Politics (Aristotle) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    But Plato's point is a valid one. Now look at my country. Compare us and China, China has done a better job in governance has it not?

    But of course, its better to be a poor in a democracy than to be a rich fellow in a Autocracy;)
     
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    I don't think so. I would rather live in India than in China.
     
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    Did you have too much whisky today or something?
     
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    Too early here!

    I would like to see both of those countries.
     
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    Indeed the title seems correct, but isn't this journey of democracy a great learning for the people?
    Isn't the process of erring and realizing your mistakes a big boon for the people to understand their importance in this democracy and the cruciality of their vote ?
    Won't it eventually smarten them up? I certainly hope so, unless the democracy is supposed to be perfect or the voter supposed to be accurate?
    I believe what lies ahead of an evolving democracy can never be achieved for the country by other means - dictatorship, theocracies and monarchies etc.

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    I think many indians are bitter at their democracy when they see China grow faster than India because it is an single party system that does not rely on popular opinion to do the right things. A new ring road can be carved out of a city in matter of months because there is no property rights in China, so people can be pushed out of the way but in India that is not possible at all.

    Indians feel the west for all its patronage to democracy has forsaken India for China and put its trust in the abilities of an communist system to organize its people in masses to produce cheap nike shoes and silly puddies. If the west really did think of democracy those business should have come to India and not gone to China. Yet the west willingly lives in ignorance of the worlds largest democracy, i still hear westerners who come here ask silly questions like "is India a democracy".

    Only in Indias success is there hope for democracy to flourish and be accepted as workable model in Asia and Middle East, Indias success has huge ramifications against communism and islamic style of governance in this region. A successful India will be emulated as an roll model but sadly China is the one getting emulated as the best system.

    Majority are generally foolish and incapable of governance but i am not sure what other choice we have.
     
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    Churchill's famous dictum: "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." (from a House of Commons speech on Nov. 11, 1947)
     
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    Back then oil price was like 1$ per barrel and raw materials where cheap as hell, so development was not constrained by inflation but in our case development is what will decide democracy will flourish or not and not quotes or jargons.

    It was easy for Churchill to say that back then but now China is showing its system is better for growing countries.
     
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    Thats what i said too... I would rather be a poor man in India than be a rich in China... But their governance is still better than India.. These too are two seperate things...
     
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    Which i have been using as my signature;);)
     
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    Sudandiram mattum illamal sorgame irundum enna payan
    - song sung by ARR

    Meaning whats the point of living in Heaven if you dont if you dont have freedom there??
     
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