Pentagon Seeks Biggest Military Cuts Since Before 9/11

[JayATL]

guy, military infrastructures all over the world is not a asset,but a obligation.

here is a simple caculation:
the more military infrastructures are ,the more to maintain them costs!
the more the maintainance costs, the less fund are distributed to the upgrade of arm force !

Always, the title of "global policeman" means not only glory,but expensive obligations that cost trillions of USD and soilder's life.

China has much less oversea military bases and obligations than Yankees. it just means that China can concentrate more fund on upgrade,instead of uselss oversea adventure and stripteaser bars aroud oversea miltiary bases.

With all due candor- If I follow your simplistic and naive logic THEN- Human beings / population is in the same boat too... you( china) have more mouths to feed , thus your money gets used up feeding your enormous population! and your communist regime has a bigger budget to spend on propaganda machines and things like blocking SKYPE and the internet that the US does not bother with..

 

[LETHALFORCE]

but case is that USA's terrible economy can not afford to maintain so many infrastructures and upgrade its arm force at the same time as the past...so USA has to give up one....USA has to either decrease military infrastructure or slow the upgrade of its arm force.....there is no other options.

social programs will be cut before military programs are, USA can easily rebalance budgets the military will never be touched.

 

[JayATL]

but case is that USA's terrible economy can not afford to maintain so many infrastructures and upgrade its arm force at the same time as the past...so USA has to give up one....USA has to either decrease military infrastructure or slow the upgrade of its arm force.....there is no other options.

It's one thing to say it needs to reduce it's military budget for austerity purposes its freaking 800 billion dollars! . It's another to come w/ silly comments trying to demean the US based on your Yankees this and that and ' no purchasing power' theory.

 

[badguy2000]

With all due candor- If I follow your simplistic and naive logic THEN- Human beings / population is in the same boat too... you( china) have more mouths to feed , thus your money gets used up feeding your enormous population! and your communist regime has a bigger budget to spend on propaganda machines and things like blocking SKYPE and the internet that the US does not bother with..

all depend on which stage one economy is along the economy develop curve..

When China was still a agriculture-based economy ,population was a burden during most time,because low agriculture could not provice enough food and undeveloped industry could not provide enough jobs

but now, the population is becoming a useful asset to China day by day,because it means a bigger domesitc market and a more powerful industry base.
that is why China produce more steel, concret, cars and almost every item of industry products than USA now. that also why USA could produce more steel,concret ,cars and almost evey item of industry products than UK,German and France after 1894.

In fact, more and more CHinese are worrying about the coming shortage of labours and appeal to stop "one kid policy".

 

[badguy2000]

social programs will be cut before military programs are, USA can easily rebalance budgets the military will never be touched.

I don't think that common yankees can endure any cut of their pension ,medical-care and unemplyment insurance just for keeping Yankee over adventure....

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I don't think that common yankees can endure any cut of their pension ,medical-care and unemplyment insurance just for keeping Yankee over adventure....

people don't like it but it is happening.

http://www.middletownjournal.com/ne...ce-providers-to-curtail-programs-1038932.html

Cuts force social service providers to curtail programs

 

[badguy2000]

It's one thing to say it needs to reduce it's military budget for austerity purposes its freaking 800 billion dollars! . It's another to come w/ silly comments trying to demean the US based on your Yankees this and that and ' no purchasing power' theory.

guy, have you serioulsy looked into the case why the cost of one F16 rises from 20M dollar in 1990s to 70M dollars nowaday? why the cost of one F35 rises from planned 60M dollar to 300M dollar expected now?

the shrink of USD purchase power is caused by not only natural inflation,but also the shrink of Yankee's manufacturing base.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

guy, have you serioulsy looked into the case why the cost of one F16 rises from 20M dollar in 1990s to 70M dollars nowaday? why the cost of one F35 rises from planned 60M dollar to 300M dollar expected now?

it lies in not only natural inflation,but also more the shrinking of Yankee's manufacturing base.

you are wrong it is from the cost of developing newer and better technology to maintain an advantage over your adversary. This analogy can be made to anything cars at one time costed 5,000 dollars now they cost 20,000 dosen't mean the manufacturing base deteriorated.

 

[JayATL]

nvm. I decided to let it go... there is only burning of brains cells to continue.

 

[badguy2000]

people don't like it but it is happening.

http://www.middletownjournal.com/ne...ce-providers-to-curtail-programs-1038932.html

Cuts force social service providers to curtail programs

so....one congressman was shot for agreeing the cut of medial-care security?
http://chn.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/10/20110110000002.html

 

[lurker]

guy, have you serioulsy looked into the case why the cost of one F16 rises from 20M dollar in 1990s to 70M dollars nowaday? why the cost of one F35 rises from planned 60M dollar to 300M dollar expected now?

the shrink of USD purchase power is caused by not only natural inflation,but also the shrink of Yankee's manufacturing base.

The more modern insides of the plane compared to the 1990's would be the likely reason for the cost increase. Inflation also plays a part of course.

As for the F-35, lack of the anticipated economy of scale (less orders than expected) and real issues with the F-35B are the main issues. The F-35A and F-35C(naval variant) are apparently both ahead of schedule and are on track to cost less than estimated, though I read that some months ago, so it may not be up to date.

A note to you badguy, i'm not sure if you're from the American south, but seriously calling American's 'Yankee' as a whole is slightly insulting, and can be fighting words in some places in the South. Its certainly not on the level of ch**k to most ,but it doesn't necessarily make Americans want to take you seriously to say the least.

As for the budget, Marines got hit with the budget stick bad, Navy (aside from Marine corp) is doing fine, and Airforce won big. Not sure how the army is.

 

[lurker]

so....one congressman was shot for agreeing the cut of medial-care security?
http://chn.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/10/20110110000002.html

what? No, She was shot because the guy was mentally disturbed.

 

[badguy2000]

what? No, She was shot because the guy was mentally disturbed.

When knowing their medical-care security/pension were to be cut off ,always more ones would be "mentally disturbed"

 

[Ray]

so....one congressman was shot for agreeing the cut of medial-care security?
http://chn.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/10/20110110000002.html

Just as many get shot for speaking freely in some countries!

And those at the helm of affairs in such countries could be termed as 'mentally disturbed' too, by some.

Just a sociological phenomenon of countries.