Palestinians accuse Israel of destroying prospects for two-state solution

[plugwater]

Just for academic sake, if the roles were reversed and if it was israel (Jews) seeking homeland against a Palestinian (Muslim) state, with other history being as it is, what would be your stance?

Shall i consider with Jews ruling half of countries in the world and fighting for the place where Muslims have that alone? I would support Muslims wholeheartedly.

 

[Galaxy]

Answer the question mate.

Then, I would supported Muslims.

C'mon, few Millions Jews in front of billion Muslims.

Since, Many Muslim countries are responsible. Hence, I am against it. If tomorrow, scenario will change, Will also change as per situation. It all depends on threat perception. Also, We are suffering from same problem.

 

[Son of Govinda]

Then, I would supported Muslims.

C'mon, few Millions Jews in front of billion Muslims.

Since, Many Muslim countries are responsible. Hence, I am against it. If tomorrow, scenario will change, Will also change as per situation. It all depends on threat perception. Also, We are suffering from same problem.

Those few million Jews also have illegal undeclared nuclear weapons, while not a single arab(and no Pakistan is not an arab country) nation has Nuclear weapons.

Now tell me who is David, in this David vs Goliath story?

 

[Galaxy]

Those few million Jews also have illegal undeclared nuclear weapons, while not a single arab(and no Pakistan is not an arab country) nation has Nuclear weapons.

Now tell me who is David, in this David vs Goliath story?

If Israel won't have Nuke, 50+ Muslims countries will kill all Jews. Nuke is deterrence against threat. BTW, Israel has nuke for last few decades. They never threatened any country to attack with nuke AFAIK.

Not to forget, Nuke in hand of Muslim country is threat for us too.

 

[pack leader]

The thing is we, you and me, can talk and iron out our differences, if any. But the Palestinians seem to think that violence is the only way, which obviously is the wrong way to go. But wiping them out, as some people suggest here is not 'dharmic'.

Here's an ad in Indian TV w/ regards to the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

its easy to make condescending remarks half a world away we are fighting for our lives and the lives off our children
as long as they keep trying to kill our children
there life will be made hell by tanks raids and walls
we can keep this up forever we have the money the men power and the weapons
the status Que is sustainable
we have defeated terrorism by military means
all they can do is media noise

 

[Razor]

If Israel won't have Nuke, 50+ Muslims countries will kill all Jews. Nuke is deterrence against threat. BTW, Israel has nuke for last few decades. They never threatened any country to attack with nuke.

Officially Israel neither accepts nor denies the existence of nukes. A very intelligent move in my opinion. It cannot directly threaten any nation with nukes because that would mean it accepts existence of nukes which will put Uncle Sam under suspicion of proliferation.

 

[plugwater]

Those few million Jews also have illegal undeclared nuclear weapons, while not a single arab(and no Pakistan is not an arab country) nation has Nuclear weapons.

Now tell me who is David, in this David vs Goliath story?

Every country around Israel wants to wipe them off the earth!!

If Israel wants something like that there wont be any Arab countries by now. Of all declared/undeclared nuclear powers which one you think will use nuclear weapon first ? I would put in this order. Pakistan,North Korea,Iran.

 

[Son of Govinda]

If Israel won't have Nuke, 50+ Muslims countries will kill all Jews. Nuke is deterrence against threat. BTW, Israel has nuke for last few decades. They never threatened any country to attack with nuke.

Do you have any proof that the Muslims would kill all Jews? That sounds like bigotry to me because the arabs have frequently stated they just don't want a Jewish state in their holy land.

My point is Israel threatens the entire existence of the middle east, in exactly the same way that the entire middle east threatens the existence of Israel.

 

[plugwater]

Do you have any proof that the Muslims would kill all Jews? That sounds like bigotry to me because the arabs have frequently stated they just don't want a Jewish state in their holy land.

You yourself answered your question.

 

[Razor]

its easy to make condescending remarks half a world away we are fighting for our lives and the lives off our children
as long as they keep trying to kill our children
there life will be made hell by tanks raids and walls
we can keep this up forever we have the money the men power and the weapons
the status Que is sustainable
we have defeated terrorism by military means
all they can do is media noise

Agreed. Hope you guys find a peaceful solution. And hope the Palestinians get an education and realize that there's a world outside of rockets and suicide bombings. I suggest distribution of free porn. It will loosen them up a bit

 

[Galaxy]

Do you have any proof that the Muslims would kill all Jews? That sounds like bigotry to me because the arabs have frequently stated they just don't want a Jewish state in their holy land.

My point is Israel threatens the entire existence of the middle east, in exactly the same way that the entire middle east threatens the existence of Israel.

It all depends on perception. Iran and few other countries openly said many times they will destroy Israel. Didn't you read how leaders of such Islamic countries spread venom against Israel. Hatred against Israeli is real and not just perception.

BTW, Nuke in hand of Muslim country is threat to us too. Be it Iran or KSA. Both are spreading terrorism with the help of Wahhabi and Hezbollah. Israel is our friend....

 

[pack leader]

Do you have any proof that the Muslims would kill all Jews? That sounds like bigotry to me because the arabs have frequently stated they just don't want a Jewish state in their holy land.

My point is Israel threatens the entire existence of the middle east, in exactly the same way that the entire middle east threatens the existence of Israel.

you can make your moralistic experiments with Arab nobility and honesty at your own peril
we will keep our nukes

 

[Son of Govinda]

You yourself answered your question.

There's a big difference between Genocide of an entire people, and dismantling a Jewish only state that stands on the holy land of 2 incredibly huge religions(Christianity & Islam).

 

[Galaxy]

There's a big difference between Genocide of an entire people, and dismantling a Jewish only state that stands on the holy land of 2 incredibly huge religions(Christianity & Islam).

Change your user Id. "Son of Govinda" doesn't suit you what i observed in last 2-3 days.

Mods/Admin should check his IP address.

 

[Razor]

There's a big difference between Genocide of an entire people, and dismantling a Jewish only state that stands on the holy land of 2 incredibly huge religions(Christianity & Islam).

The Holy Lands are most holy for Jews and Christians and second most holy for Islam. Just saying.

 

[Son of Govinda]

It all depends on perception. Iran and few other countries openly said many times they will destroy Israel. Didn't you read how leaders of such Islamic countries spread venom against Israel. Hatred against Israeli is real and not just perception.

BTW, Nuke in hand of Muslim country is threat to us too. Be it Iran or KSA. Both are spreading terrorism with the help of Wahhabi and Hezbollah. Israel is our friend....

Don't bring Iran into this. I'm sick of people demonizing a nation like Iran that hasn't invaded anyone in 100 years, but has been screwed over time and time again by the west. Please find me the original Farsi text, and translated text of where Ahmadinejad said he would destroy Israel.

Israel on the other hand has broken international law more than once by pre-emptively invading Lebanon.

 

[plugwater]

There's a big difference between Genocide of an entire people, and dismantling a Jewish only state that stands on the holy land of 2 incredibly huge religions(Christianity & Islam).

Huge religions? I am hearing it for the first time.

Jews are not going to give up their home just like that!! So the Arabs are trying to force them out of there(meaning killing).

 

[Son of Govinda]

The Holy Lands are most holy for Jews and Christians and second most holy for Islam. Just saying.

And I welcome Jews living on the land too, but to call it a Jewish only state is preposterous.

 

[Son of Govinda]

Huge religions? I am hearing it for the first time.

Jews are not going to give up their home just like that!! So the Arabs are trying to force them out of there(meaning killing).

Sorry but conjecture doesn't hold up in an intelligent debate.

 

[Galaxy]

Don't bring Iran into this. I'm sick of people demonizing a nation like Iran that hasn't invaded anyone in 100 years, but has been screwed over time and time again by the west. Please find me the original Farsi text, and translated text of where Ahmadinejad said he would destroy Israel.

Israel on the other hand has broken international more than once by pre-emptively invading Lebanon.

Are you real ??

You don't make any sense. A typical paki giving justification to hate Israeli and living in denial.

Israel is reality, Sooner you will accept better it would be!!