Your folks have been trying to prove this for last 65 years and believe me, they have failed miserably.
Narra-a-taqbeer... allah hu akhbar
To prove "others" wrong they have landed themselves in trouble and LOST Bangladesh 40 yrs ago and now in civil war where demands of Baluchistan and SindhuDesh are increasing.
lets bei fair about this - to both sides ....... hindi urdu are more or less similar
lets bei fair about this - to both sides ....... hindi urdu are more or less similar
BUT .....i would tend to side with farhan on this one - that urdu is a turkish word coined when the ottoman or their client regime in iran set up kingdom in west and north iindia
it was a mixture language formed to organise or rather command the army ....the original turkish spelling was Ordu .... a mongolian word meaning guess waht ? it means ARMY !
in occupied inner mongolia in fact their is a town by that nameor close ( Ordos) - i wouldnt be surprised if it was a garrison town for the ancient mongolian armies
anyawy i was really hoping for a greater degree of "maturity " ( ahem ! ) on this one - where really we could enjoy pakiastani turkish indian culture as at least some spectrum of a common thread .....but alas ....it has degenerated into .........
well i keep hoping !
Very good post.lets bei fair about this - to both sides ....... hindi urdu are more or less similar
BUT .....i would tend to side with farhan on this one - that urdu is a turkish word coined when the ottoman or their client regime in iran set up kingdom in west and north iindia
it was a mixture language formed to organise or rather command the army ....the original turkish spelling was Ordu .... a mongolian word meaning guess waht ? it means ARMY !
in occupied inner mongolia in fact their is a town by that nameor close ( Ordos) - i wouldnt be surprised if it was a garrison town for the ancient mongolian armies
anyawy i was really hoping for a greater degree of "maturity " ( ahem ! ) on this one - where really we could enjoy pakiastani turkish indian culture as at least some spectrum of a common thread .....but alas ....it has degenerated into .........
well i keep hoping !
Urdu was the name given to the Hindi language spoken in Northwest India by traders from Persialets bei fair about this - to both sides ....... hindi urdu are more or less similar
BUT .....i would tend to side with farhan on this one - that urdu is a turkish word coined when the ottoman or their client regime in iran set up kingdom in west and north iindia
it was a mixture language formed to organise or rather command the army ....the original turkish spelling was Ordu .... a mongolian word meaning guess waht ? it means ARMY !
in occupied inner mongolia in fact their is a town by that nameor close ( Ordos) - i wouldnt be surprised if it was a garrison town for the ancient mongolian armies
anyawy i was really hoping for a greater degree of "maturity " ( ahem ! ) on this one - where really we could enjoy pakiastani turkish indian culture as at least some spectrum of a common thread .....but alas ....it has degenerated into .........
well i keep hoping !
Yes, Urdu is seen as a mixture of Hindi and Persian, due to the reasons you stated, but the origin of the word is still Central Asia.
You are right but the language itself is more a mixture of Hindi,Persian and Arabic than anything
True, that is why I said originally, it is a Turkic word, not Turkish. They are different.
Interesting. Even Russian language has borrowed from Persian.
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My father had a good friend from Russia (Georgia) and he would come over and
Indeed.
LF many indian names have turkish origin albeit the indian versions have been anglicised during the era of the british .....eg the indian name tetley ( yes interestingly enough , the tea brand name ) is not an english name as i once thought but rather an anglicisation of the turkish origin name Tatlises ....similarly the infamous name Kalmadi ...is actually a turkish word ....many others ..... thats why all that line drawing by the brits separating indian languages from turkish is a load of political line-drawing more than anything else ...in reality we have a whole load in common with the turkic people of west central asia and indeed the more europeanised turks ....the brits didnt want india to join forces with the ottoman - g -forbid , with that kind of combination ( turkish modern army equipment, strategy and daring plus indian numbers ) they (brits asnd w europe ) would have been sliced to pieces and goodbye to any brit or western influence east of suez
The British knew what happened during the crusades the best blades (talwar) mass produced
I always had an interest in History and have read extensively on many periods. Something you may not knowWootz? How did you know that?
That's mainly a Tamil contribution to metallurgy.
They used to make excellent iron ingots in South India, and send them to Syria to make these swords.
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not sure if you have heard south indian languages , but inst there a remarkable similarity to turkish ? not only the type of words but even the body language ! ....i wonder if there could be some connection ?Wootz? How did you know that?
They used to make excellent iron ingots in South India, and send them to Syria to make these swords.Read more: Wootz steel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
