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Training for terrorists comes from Pak: Clinton
Thu, Dec 10 10:05 AM
Expressing concern over series of arrests of US nationals as terror suspects, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said much of the training and direction for terrorists comes from Pakistan and the border area with Afghanistan.
"We know that much of the training and the direction for terrorists comes from Pakistan and the border area with Afghanistan," Clinton told reporters at the Foggy Bottom headquarters of the State Department.
It has always been a concern, Clinton said when asked about several cases of home grown terrorists in the country.
"We know we've got to work more closely with both Afghanistan and Pakistan to try to root out the infrastructure of terrorism that continues to recruit and train people who are willing to do what is alleged with Zazi, David Headley, and others in the recent cases that have come to light," Clinton said.
Headley, a US national of Pakistani origin was arrested by the FBI in October on charges of planning terrorist attacks in India and Mumbai.
The FBI in its charge-sheet filed this week has accused Headley of being involved in the Mumbai terrorist attacks.
"One of the reasons why President Obama made the decision which he announced last week with respect to our strategy going forward is because we continue to see a syndicate of terrorism that al-Qaida is, in effect, the head of that is not only an aspirational or ideological head, but providing funding and training and equipping and operational direction to a number of terrorist groups," Clinton said.
"And therefore, we will remain very vigilant at home," she said.
Training for terrorists comes from Pak: Clinton - Yahoo! India News
FBI says two serving Pak officers had ties with Headley
Last updated on: December 10, 2009 14:24 IST
According to a senior source in the Union home ministry, Federal Bureau of Investigation officers who visited New Delhi [ Images ] shared vital information about two Pakistani serving army officers connected to Lashkar-a-Tayiba operative David Coleman Headley, a Pakistani-American arrested in Chicago in October, now accused of criminal conspiracy in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks [ Images ].
The FBI officers are in Pakistan for further inquiry into the matter. The Pakistan officers who had been laisoning with Headley are army majors, the FBI officers told their Indian counterparts during the briefing.
FBI officers have extensively shared information with the Indian counterparts about the role of Headley and his associate Tahawwur Rana (also picked up in Chicago) in the Mumbai attacks.
However, if the information FBI has on Headley is correct then the Pakistani establishment will have a lot to answer to US and India [ Images ]. Headley has been charged on 12 terror-related counts and one of the counts is pertaining to six US citizens who were killed during the 26/11 attacks.
A home ministry source suggests that the information given by Headley raises serious questions about the role of serving officers of the Pakistan army [ Images ] in the Mumbai attacks. For long, Indian investigators have believed that such a huge and cold-blooded operation could not be planned and executed with such perfection without the backing of the Pakistani military establishment.
Interestingly, the FBI has told India that they are still 'negotiating' with Headley.
If the FBI is able to establish Pakistan army's role in the Mumbai attacks then it will be the game changer for diplomacy over the attacks.
However, the home ministry source said that Pakistan is playing tough. They have so far not allowed US agents access to Lashkar mastermind Zaki-ur Rahman Lakhvi. It is unlikely that they would co-operate in case of serving officers.
When asked why the IB could not track Headley or Rana, a source dealing with internal security said, "We never doubted any US citizen of having terror links."
Now he says after learning about Headley and his movements in and out of India, "There could be many Headleys in India."
Sheela Bhatt in New Delhi
2 serving Pak officers had ties with Headley: FBI: Rediff.com India News
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Well it's a political game to gain support of illiterate Pakistani public and Mohammedans residing all over the world, Pakistan was supposed to be heaven for Muslims and is basically a Muslim state.They gained sympathy of Muslims by producing "Islamic-Fascism" in form of "Zihad" and Pakistan Supported Terrorism is mere a branch of it which is actually not depicted in Quran . They are misrepresenting that they are fighting for Islam .Today a common illiterate Pakistani can't understand principles and doctrine of non-Muslim/secular state, actually Pakistani military officials have succeeded in diverting the mind of common man against India and i think against all other religions for their own interests.:thumbs_thmbdn:
Islam is one of the best religions but surely not in Pakistan...
Pakistan Sponsored Terrorism (PST) is Pakistan's main policy but nowadays due to boom in space technology & media/communication tech (and American pressure) it has became difficult for them to hide their connections with terrorism & terrorist training camps.
Lashkar-e-Taiba training camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Surely future is very bad for PST...
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Call Pakistan's Bluff
G D Bakshi 18 December 2009, 12:00am IST
There are renewed intelligence inputs about the possibility of India being the target of further terrorist attacks. The fencing of India's land borders has had a major and palpable impact on the Pakistani ISI's methodology for exporting terror and destabilising this country. Fencing had helped curtail terrorism in Punjab and the same access denial solution has worked well in J&K. With the extension of the fence to Rajasthan, the degree of difficulty in infiltrating personnel, arms and ammunition into India has increased exponentially.
This clearly has prompted the ISI to revamp its terror offensive strategy against India. This tactical shift was effected in 2007 and its consequences became painfully visible in 2008, through a series of high profile and mass casualty strikes in Jaipur, Ahmedabad, New Delhi, Guwahati and Mumbai. The Mumbai mayhem unleashed an unprecedented wave of public anger and indignation at the embarrassing failure of the Indian state to protect the lives of its citizens.
The ISI's strategy is fairly explicit in hindsight. It has two clear strands. The reduced porosity of land borders impelled the ISI to place heavy reliance on the local Tanzeems with localised narratives. These were trained not in PoK or Pakistan but in various jungle locations within India. The emphasis was on greater deniability, which would enable the Pakistani establishment to distance itself from these actions. Salient characteristics of these Indian Mujahideen-initiated strikes were using locally available explosive materials like ammonium nitrate, hydrogen peroxide and slurry etc. The deliberate design was to spread the terror war from J&K to the rest of India.
Local Tanzeems, however, could be easily penetrated and tracked down by the Indian police and intelligence agencies. Most of the IM operatives were swiftly rounded up after the terror strikes. This seems to have compelled the ISI to exploit the sea flank to launch meticulously planned sea-borne assaults using highly motivated and well-trained west Punjabi operatives of the Lashkar-e-Taiba.
One year down the line we are again deluged with intelligence warnings of another strike. What then are our response options? One would have thought that with so much on its plate, the Pakistani establishment would not be keen to open other fronts. India would be equally happy to let Pakistan focus its energies on draining the terrorist swamp it has created. What then could be the Pakistani motivations for a resumption of its terrorist assault on India?
The military-ISI duo that calls the shots in Pakistan appears to be under severe pressure due to the ongoing global offensive against terrorism. Twenty-eight per cent of its rank and file are ethnic Pathans who are seriously affected by the ongoing operations in Swat and Federally Administered Tribal Areas. Is Pakistan seeking an eastern diversion that can repair the fast deepening Punjabi-Pashtun faultline and enable it to call off the global offensive? Whatever be the motivations, a renewed Pakistani terrorist assault in India translates into mass casualties.
ISI's asymmetric assault against India started in 1983. For almost three decades India has surrendered the strategic and tactical initiative to Pakistan. We have waged a purely defensive battle on our own territory. Such a reactive and passive stance was understandable in the era of the 1990s when we were trying to revive and liberalise our failing economy. But that stance is unsustainable beyond a point. It calls into question the Indian state's will to safeguard its vital national interests and the life of its citizens.
How do we transit to a proactive phase to deter further Indian casualties? First, the state needs to send out a clear communication that such terrorist attacks and resulting Indian casualties are no longer acceptable. Second, we must rapidly deploy dominant war fighting capabilities that can deter Pakistan's asymmetric adventurism. India must also hasten its defence acquisition process. Finally, we must remember that the primary flaw of Operation Parakram was it's all-or-nothing mission. India needs to evolve and enunciate a declaratory doctrine for limited wars against a nuclear backdrop. This must aim at raising costs for Pakistan's sponsorship of terrorism.
The initial response to Pakistan-sponsored terror attacks could be air power and naval power or special forces centric. These should be just, focused, precise and proportionate responses that serve as warning shots and place the onus of further escalation squarely on Pakistan.
It is time India called Pakistan's nuclear bluff. Kargil clearly highlighted that there is no one-step nuclear escalation ladder in South Asia. The weight of deterrence in Pakistani military thinking is premised on its perceived parity in conventional military force with that of India's. This must be addressed on an urgent basis. Frankly it would be far better for India to deter such an attack than deal with its consequences. Deterrence, however, mandates a clear communication of resolve to respond. It is here that well-intentioned declarations of peaceful intent and abhorrence for war from our leadership could unfortunately have the opposite effect of inviting more such attacks.
The writer is a retired major general of the Indian army.
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Terror infrastructure in Pakistan intact: Indian Army
New Delhi: The terror infrastructure in Pakistan is intact though there has been a decline in incursions into Jammu and Kashmir, a top Indian Army officer said on Thursday.
Lt. Gen. Mukesh Sabharwal, who is the adjutant general at Army Headquarters, said the fencing along the Line of Control (LoC) that divides Jammu and Kashmir between India and Pakistan has been a major factor in bringing down the levels of infiltration from across the border.
Sabharwal, who is adjutant general of the Indian Army, was speaking at the Indira Gandhi National Open University ( IGNOU) on 'Internal security in Jammu and Kashmir: Historical Perspective and Emerging Scenario'.
'Communication is catered for and material and moral support of all kinds is provided (to militants in Pakistan),' Sabharwal said, adding terror camps and training centres had not been dismantled by Pakistan.
Sabharwal ruled out the presence on Al Qaeda and Taliban militants in Jammu and Kashmir but cautioned that the global terror networks were pooling resources with guerrilla outfits in the state to achieve their ends.
'We have not seen their (Al Qaeda and Taliban) presence,' he said.
The army officer, who has served several stints in Jammu and Kashmir, said cross-border infiltration peaked in 2004 to 3,300 but had come down to less than 100 in 2009. 'There has been a perceptible drop in the levels of violence,' he said.
He said the army was winning the minds and hearts of people through Operation Sadbhavana (goodwill) under which it had provided health care, worked for development of border areas and opened 50 schools in the state.
Favouring reduction in the visibility of the army in the state, he said the police force should be strengthened.
IGNOU Vice Chancellor V.N. Rajasekharan Pillai, who chaired the lecture, said Gyan Deep, a partnership between the university and the army, had attracted attention all over the world. He said inclusive education was essential for inclusive growth of society.
Salil Misra from IGNOU's School of Social Sciences referred to the Kashmir problem from different vantage points and presented the discussant's remarks after the lecture, which was followed by an open discussion.
Gyan Deep is a programme designed for training and awarding degrees to soldiers during their service period.
Combating Terrorism: Perspective from the Ground
January 25, 2010
Task Force Report on National Security and Terrorism, Federation of India Chambers of Commerce and Industry, New Delhi, 2009.
The gradual rise of India as a major power in the global arena has not only attracted the attention of the international community but has also made it a key target for terrorist groups. Attacks on Red Fort, the Parliament, Indian Institute for Science, and blasts in Mumbai suburban trains by Pakistan based Lashkar-e-Toiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad and attacks on Sankat Mochan Temple and Mecca Masjid and serial bomb blasts in Delhi, Jaipur, and Ahmedabad by Indian Mujahideen are a few such instances. The Mumbai attack of November 26, 2008 is the most recent in this series. As these attacks demonstrate, Pakistan-based terrorist groups have expanded their area of operations from Kashmir to cover the entire heartland of India with a concomitant change in their targets as well. So along with security personnel, they are increasingly attacking symbols of India’s political, economic and religious vibrancy with the objective of shattering the image of India as a stable, secure and dynamic economy. And in their operations, these Pakistan-based terrorists are considerably assisted by fringe elements and the domestic terror group - the Indian Mujahideen - who are radicalised and motivated by local grievances. Together these terrorist groups have unleashed a wave of terrorism spread across the entire country.
It is with this wave of terrorism that the recently published ‘Task Force Report on National Security and Terrorism’ by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industries (FICCI) grapples with. The Report reiterates that India is facing a ‘new terrorism’, which is more virulent, sophisticated and religiously motivated. However, to combat this menace, the Report observes, India lacks a robust and comprehensive counter terrorism strategy. The existing mechanism is mired by various systemic inadequacies and does not take into account the role of private sector and civil society in fighting terrorism. Identifying Pakistan as the main source for cross border terrorism, the Report argues that given the indifferent attitude of major powers towards Pakistan-sponsored terrorism, India has to devise its own strategy to deal with Pakistan. By employing various options ranging from suspension of all trade and travel with Pakistan, carrying out surgical strikes on terror camps in Pakistan and launching limited but intense attacks on Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK) to seeking greater cooperation through intelligence sharing, joint military interactions, establishment of free trade zones and more cultural exchanges, the Report argues, India could make sponsoring cross-border terrorism costly for Pakistan.
For fighting terrorism effectively at the national level, the Report suggests evolving a ‘National Counter Terrorism Architecture’. It essentially involves prevention of terror attacks through intelligence, physical security, proactive policing, strengthening maritime security and revamped counter-terrorism machinery in metro cities. Towards this end, the Report forwards a set of recommendations. Some of these are:
* creation of a Director of National Intelligence for better intelligence assessment
* creation of a National Counter Terrorism Agency for collection and dissemination of processed intelligence and for investigating all terror related cases
* strengthening intelligence sharing
* developing National Intelligence Grid
* creation of a separate Ministry of Internal Security dealing exclusively with terrorism and left wing extremism
* implementation of police reforms to build a robust professional police force
* strengthening coastal police and Coast Guard and soliciting active participation of fishermen community
* establishing of effective response system in cities
The Report emphasizes that terrorist attacks adversely impact businesses and the society at large. Therefore, the government should address the security concerns of the business community and co-opt them in formulating terror prevention/response plan. The private sector and non-government organizations with their expertise, extensive networks and resources, can assist the government in its fight against terrorism. Recognising the role Media play in disseminating terror-related events and its consequent impact in influencing public opinion and decision making capabilities of the Government, the Report asks them to be more responsible in their reporting. It recommends conducting a joint Government and Media training exercise to sensitise each other about the other’s point of view. It also requests the Government to create media pools for the dissemination of information during any terror attack and promoting voluntary press coverage guidelines.
The Task Force Report1 brought out by the FICCI commands appreciation because this is the first time that the industry chamber has taken a lead in discussing national security issues. The Report is very comprehensive as it deals with a gamut of issues challenging the internal security of the country, be it terrorism, naxalism or insurgency in the Northeast and suggests measures to tackle these problems. It is also quite distinct because for the first time such a study has highlighted the fact that terrorism affects the entire spectrum of Indian society and therefore private sectors and civil societies should be increasingly involved by the Government while formulating national security strategies. Another important aspect of combating terrorism which the Report brings out quite well is the need for constructively engaging the media in disseminating correct information during any terrorist attack.
Though the Report is quite exhaustive in its recommendations for prevention of terrorist attacks in the country, there are a few gaps that it leaves unaddressed. Firstly, while correctly pointing out the Pakistan is the main sponsor of terrorism in India and suggests measures to deal with it, the Report remains silent on how to address the problem of domestic terror groups such as the Indian Mujahideen. These domestic terror groups are basically driven by local grievances that are mainly political in nature and therefore cannot be solved by mere administrative restructuring. For this the Government has to take steps to ensure communal harmony in the country and bring the perpetrators of communal riots to justice by overhauling the judicial system. Secondly, most of the recommendations forwarded by the Report such as strengthening of Intelligence Bureau, implementation of police reforms, creation of specialized forces in states without any peripheral duties, intelligence exchange and maintenance of upgraded database on all crimes, strengthening the Department of Internal Security, etc. can be found in the Recommendations of the Group of Ministers Report on Reforming National Security System of 2001.
This only goes to underline the fact that even if solutions are known to the Government, they are hardly implemented. Various issues such as lack of political will, resource crunch, turf war, apathy, and general inertia create hurdles. And most often, it takes a major crisis to jolt the political class and the government out of their slumber. One such case is the creation of National Investigation Agency (NIA). The need for setting up an NIA had been proposed for many years but because of lack of political consensus it could not be established till 26/11 happened. Similar is the case with the execution of the Coastal Security Scheme, which was formulated in 2005-06. Barring one or two states none of the coastal states displayed any interest in implementing the scheme till the Central government made it mandatory for them to fully implement it following the Mumbai terror episode. And even if any organization is created or a scheme is implemented, turf wars, inadequate infrastructure, and lack of professionalism severely impair their functioning. The FICCI Report does not provide any answers to address these ground realities. Therefore, while it is necessary to approach the problem from a broader perspective, it is also imperative to take into account ground realities while formulating solutions.
1. 1. Task Force Report on National Security and Terrorism, Federation of India Chambers of Commerce and Industry, New Delhi, 2009. Members of the Task Force were: Rajeev Chandrashekhar (Chairman), Harsh Pati Singhania (Co-Chairman), Yogendra K. Modi, Ajit Kumar Doval, Lt. Gen. (Retd.) Satish Nambiar, Air Chief Marshal (Retd.) S. Krishnaswamy, B. Raman, Ved Prakash Marwah, and Dr. Amit Mitra.
In the following research paper Christine fair points out that its the upper and middle class well educated pakistanis who are more supportive of terrorism then the poor pakistanis.
"Why Pakistanis Support Islamist Militancy"
Pak failing miserably in controlling terrorism: India
STAFF WRITER 18:16 HRS IST
New Delhi, Feb 16 (PTI) India today said that Pakistan was failing miserably in controlling terrorism by categorising terrorists as "good" and "bad" and that it needed to deal with the terror issue in an evenhanded manner.
"Pakistan is failing miserably and they are trying to say that there are good terrorists and there are bad terrorists, which is wrong.
"I think they have to deal with an entire spectrum of terrorism in an evenhanded manner," minister of state for Defence M M Pallam Raju told reporters here on the sidelines of a seminar.
The minister was responding to queries on whether Pakistan was doing enough to control terrorism emanating from its territory.
Two sides of the same FOIN
Pakistan: Exporting Terror
Pakistan: Exporting Terror 01 of 02 Link
Pakistan: Nucleus of Terror [Terror as a state policy] http://pak-terror.freeserve... Inside Jihad - pakistan sponsoring terrorism against India
Pakistan: Exporting Terror 02 of 02 Link
Interview With Bitta Karate, JKLF Terrorist LINK
A television interview conducted with Bitta Karate, former captured terrorist working with Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF), who admits to killing many Kashmiri Pandits, and talks of how v.
Nazir Naji: Pakistan's Export of Terrorism -1/2
Renowned analyst and columnist, Nazir Naji, discusses Pakistan's export of terrorism and the horrific consequences of this practice for the country. He explains how: (a) terrorists have become an i
Nazir Naji: Pakistan's Export of Terrorism -2/2
Testimony of Dr. Marvin G. Weinbaum, Scholar-in-Residence,Middle East Institute on “Bad Company: Lashkar-e-Tayyiba and the Growing Ambition of Islamist Militancy in Pakistan”
Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia,
House Committee on Foreign Affairs
March 11, 2010
Rep. Gary L. Ackerman, Chairman House Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia “Bad Company: Lashkar e-Tayyiba and the Growing Ambition of Islamist Militancy in Pakistan”
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Pakistan is the main epic centre of terroism.Every major or minor terrorist attacks in the whole world has links with pak. USA and NAT0 should attack pakitan not Afganistan or Iraq after sept 01. well they are doing it now.If u finish the terror network in Pak all will be well. Pakistan consider itself as sarpanch of all isalmic world. You kill the sarpanch all villages is will be urs
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