Pakistan's Next Generation Stealth Fighter Program J-2X Confirmed

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  1. JAYRAM

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    PAF recently sent a group of represenatives to CAC. They looked at a few designs for their 4th gen, and in general they were pretty satisfied."

    Chengdu has an export pre-4th gen (5th gen in US/Russian standard)designated as J-2X.Pakistan and third world countries have demands for it. Of course, 611 can expect to get some order from Chinese air force also. It is about the size of F-35, and the design has already been presented to Pakistan."


    PAF and Next Generation Stealth Fighter Program J-2X Confirmed ~ ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS
     
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  3. anoop_mig25

    anoop_mig25 Senior Member Senior Member

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    men does pakistan has money to fiance it or even to by it. they brought their jf-17 from soft loans provided by china
     
  4. aimarraul

    aimarraul Regular Member

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    Of couse PAF have their stealth fighter plan,they just don't like to blatantly seek publicity

    some possible concepts:

    single engine J20

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    stealthy JF17

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    other available 5th gen jets for PAF in the market by 2025

    F-35,ATD-X,KF -X

    Russia may even sell PAKFA by that time
     
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    Daredevil On Vacation! Administrator

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    This is to just stroke their fake ego. They are not capable of having engines for all the trains in Pakistan but still talk of stealth fighter.
     
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    Why talk of 2025, we are at present ready to sell Su-30MKI to Pakistan as a goodwill gesture. :becky:
     
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    Like China, you mean?

    The world would have moved on to UCAVs "by that time"...lol
     
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  8. Phenom

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    Its reported that the PAF stealth fighter is so stealthy that no one will ever see it, not even their own pilots. :D
     
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  9. aimarraul

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    i don't think they will be interested in,they already have F16C/D with much lower RCS


    for U.S maybe,not for the rest of world
     
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    You mind if I use this one elsewhere???
     
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    russia sell u pak fa its urs dream in future only china give u their obsolete junk
     
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    Wow, a chinese pitching for a US fighter, thats new one. BTW RCS is not always what matters. OT.

    Let PAF themselves confirm first, then it would be nice to speculate about things, not the usual chinese way of bashing and showcasing products even though they are at drawing board yet.
     
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    don't think russian care about your feelings

    Russia to export 600 Sukhoi PAK FA fifth generation jets

    Also, Indonesia (6-12 units in the years 2028-2032), Iran (36-48 units in the years 2035-2040), Kazakhstan (12-24 units in the years 2025-2035), China (up to 100 units in the years 2025-2035), Libya (12-24 units in the years 2025-2030), Malaysia (12-24 units in the years 2035-2040), and Syria (12-24 units in the years 2025-2030).


    Russia experts suggest to sell MiG-35 to Pakistan
     
  14. Phenom

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    Not at all
    Go ahead and the spread the word
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  15. Godless-Kafir

    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    All that wont happen without Indian consent. India is partners in the project and we pay 50% of development cost and 25% of technical R&D.
     
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    Of course they are exporting!!!
    But not to Pakistan..
    This is not JF-17 project, you think India wouldn't have ensured no exports to Pakistan when the invested in the project?
    The rest of the nations are not hostile to India, so we could not care less.

    This means no business for J-10B.
    Considering PAF can afford these fighters, these are not available on soft loans you know.
     
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    Your quote of lower RCA is as blatant as any other because F-16 is a single engine fighter its bound to have RCS lower than su30 twin engined and if RCS is the only thing of importance in a fighter then i bet make an invisible paper plane and keep it on the ground and win all the wars.

    secondly in another post you talked about russian pakfa sales which is another ignorant fact , russia is bound by clause not to sell pakfa without consent and its not a troll like post i am making it blatant paperwork which fanboys seem to ignore , in many pak forums they talk about j11 purchase from china which is another fanboy stuff since china is under clause not to sell j11 and so on.

    if i follow the pakland forums we will end up with PAF having 20 odd designs which they are buying every year , pak cannot maintain a stealth aircraft because its too expensive for them right now they are looking for options on jf-17 new version thats real truth , you can call this new version XYZ its still jf-17 which they will look for next 10 years with some j10A given as gifts.

    SO pakfa sales talk / rcs talk all bull crap , if u want we have a thread on rcs on an analytical and physics aspect by experts check that will get better idea of what RCS is.

    PLEASE READ THIS THREAD HERE YOU WILL GET TO KNOW RCS AND LATEST 5TH GEN PROS AND CONS :- http://defenceforumindia.com/indian...rs-discussions-5th-generation-technology.html
     
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  18. aimarraul

    aimarraul Regular Member

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    no ,you only partner of FGFA,and i am pretty sure russia will move to the new market when india getting more independent on weaponry


    is there an indians in this picture?
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    you are grossly ignorant of the terms and clauses of pakfa or you are fed with information from fanboy forums , PAKFA deal is done on a 50 -50 basis with paperwork scheduled from dec2009 to final confirmation in sept 2010 , the deal envisages a lot of aspects other than just production of this fighter , there are issues regarding funding , technology sharing and even exports , its beyond the scope to discuss all parameters but having known a bits and pieces myself i can confirm that what i am saying is correct.

    PAKFA OR ANY OF ITS DERIVATIVES WILL BE SOLD /EXPORTED TO LIKE MINDED COUNTRIES WITH MUTUAL CONSENT - thats the terminology used , now decude your own conclusions .

    atleast 7 different concerns or partners in both countries are involved in its entire production line , in jan 2011 indian delegation with 30 members were flown to be incorporated in the sukhoi development plan .


    incase u wnat to know more in jan 2011 another similar agreement has been made with russia for MTA on 50-50 basis for development of MTA in near future , funding for both has been arranged on basis of clause a co-company is already formed with work on form 7 labs of india-russia together , same wise for pakfa /fgfa

    so please know details then speak rather than basing arguments form unconfirmed sources and not knowing the exact details in fact we are proud at DFI we broke the details of additional MIG29K sales in sept2009 ahead of its public confirm in dec 2009 as we have reliable sources on delas of importance with INDO-RUSSIAN projects , similarly we confirmed the first FLIGHT OF LCH 2 Days before its public announcement because we have people here who are directly involved with such work so please know facts for once than just fanboyish stuff.
     
  20. Adux

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    Yup, there are Indians in the picture, look closely. While you are at it, try to grow a brain cell. Atleast India develops their own stuff unlike repainted MiG.1.44, Su-30's
     
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