Pakistan's new strategy: Exploit India's fault-lines on caste and religion, encourage Modi baiters

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  1. sorcerer

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    Pakistan's new strategy: Exploit India's fault-lines on caste and religion, encourage Modi baiters


    From warning its army to sending militants across LoC, too many shades of Pakistan's India policy have already been seen in the aftermath of Modi government's diplomatic offensive and surgical strikes in PoK. But, Islamabad is again churning out a new strategy to counter India.

    A 13-member committee of the Senate- equivalent to Rajya Sabha- has made some tactical recommendations for the Nawaz Sharif government to check India's growing stature in diplomatic battle with Pakistan.

    In its 'Policy guidelines in view of the latest situation developing between India and Pakistan', the Senate committee has asked Sharif government to play up caste and religion by talking about Dalits, unhappy Muslims and encourage those opposing Prime Minister Narendra Modi besides highlighting the issue of Kashmir.


    THE COUNTER-INDIA STRATEGY

    Major part of the policy paper is devoted to Pakistan's oft repeated rhetoric about Kashmir. But, the tone and tenor of the guidelines suggest that Pakistan concedes having been isolated by India diplomatic onslaught after Uri terror attack.

    "The Government should hire International lobbyists and strategic communication firms and reactivate Pakistani community living abroad to change global narrative," the Senate committee recommended.



    The calling off of SAARC summit has hurt Pakistan in more than one inter-governmental group. "The need to counter India's initiatives to demoralize/isolate Pakistan particularly amongst neighbours of Pakistan, SAARC members and members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) is imperative," the committee said.

    The upper house committee of Pakistan asked the Sharif government redouble the "efforts to cultivate Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Maldives, Myanmar, Iran and the Central Asian republics plus Russia".



    EXPLOIT INDIA'S FAULT-LINES

    In the 22-point policy guidelines the Senate committee advised the Pakistan government to exploit India's societal differences.

    "India's own fault-lines in their alienated Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and Dalits as well as the growing Maoist insurgency (should) be highlighted," the policy paper reads. This seems to be a measure to counter PM Modi's reference to Balochistan in recent weeks.

    It further said, "Modi and his RSS ideology of Hindutva should be targeted. Comprehensive outreach to those segments of Indian public opinion which are opposed to Modi's extremism and his anti-Pakistan policies including political parties, media, civil society organisations and human rights groups."


    WHY WAS COMMITTEE CREATED?

    The Committee of the Whole was constituted on September 26- after Uri terror attack but three days before the surgical strikes carried out by India in PoK.

    The committee was briefed by Pakistan's Defence Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif, its Defence Secretary and Foreign Affairs Advisor Sartaj Aziz on September 29.




    Interestingly, on October 22, i.e. four days before the committee was formed the Senate had passed a unanimous resolution in support of Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani, who was killed in an encounter with security forces on July 8.

    The entire report of the Senate committee is available on its website. (http://www.senate.gov.pk/uploads/documents/whole/whole07.pdf )

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    Indias opposition parties are already playing this role too well fitting into paki perspective..
     

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    aditya10r PHAK MU LUCK Senior Member

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    Their new strategy is to get fucked in doggy style

    Pakturds
     
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    It's only going to make modi even stronger :clap2:
    The more porki will cry his name more popular he will grow.
     
  5. Srinivas_K

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    This article is testimony to their iQ level and their logic !

     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    One good thing which came out is that all those who were living under masks came out and got exposed.

    So whether it's K TURDS like Kejriwal,Kahsyap,Khan's,Karan,Kanhiyya etc or other known traitors like CONgress,Leftists,Burqa Dutt Khan,Saba Khan etc.
     
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    Read it earlier, nothing much new here save perhaps for trying to suck to SAARC nations due to the embarrassing pull-out. No doubt, China will help out here too.
     
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    As I've been tagged, I feel somewhat of an obligation to give a reply. A guest when prompted is rude not to respond.

    1. India is a civilian democracy which has a mechanism for change, redress and remedial action via democratic, constitutional politics.

    Thus we can see this in the creation of new states, re-drawing of state boundaries and using the legal route to solve disputes.

    As part of this culture of respecting democracy and the rule of law, the military is subordinate to the elected politicians.

    2. Pakistan by contrast is a jungle state and military dictatorship run by an unelected junta of Punjabi generals using a facade of civilian democracy to camouflage their actual rule and control over the country. In Pakistan one cannot really engage in democratic politics as the Baloch, Bengalis in 71 and others know all too well.


    3. This is relevant to mention since though India may have its internal divisions being a country with a population larger than Europe, it is a federal entity which celebrates its pluralistic identity and linguistic, racial and religious diversity and which as mentioned above has strategies and mechanisms for people to peacefully call for and implement change.

    Thus trouble making by the Punjabi junta - bitter at the break up of their own country in 71 and eager to do the same do India - will not succeed.


    - Naxal rebel and trouble decreasing? Yes - check.
    - Khalistan insurgency over? Yes - check.
    - ULFA and north-eastern violence decreasing? Yes - check.
    - ISI misuse of Bangladeshi soil to destabilize ending? Yes - check.
    - Largest economic growth for a major economy in the world? Yes - check.
    - Good relations with Muslim states e.g. $75 billion investment from UAE, Chabahar deal with Iran, good ties with Afghanistan, increased ties with Saudi, friendship with Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia etc? Yes - check.

    Pakistan however may be heading for yet another break up of its state with the obstinate and recalcitrant Baloch reigniting their insurgency with vigour once again.
     
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    One final check to be completed is to abolish the whole caste, creed and minority based quota system in education and Job sector. Keep quota in education for certified economically underprivileged section. Stringent action should be imposed in constitution and LAW board against anyone who defies these norms.
    This will help to thrash out the so called Dalit brigade. VHP should come out of slumber to educate the enmasse on the vanity of caste system.
     
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    Why can't we have a Buddhist party, instead of INC? The most stark difference between Hinduism and Buddhism in modern-day India, is that most people associate Buddhism with "socialism", i.e. helping the lower castes out.

    Buddhism is similar to "nordic-model socialism", which also supports things like restrictions on prostitution, drink, and drugs. I think it would be wonderful for a socialist-buddhist movement to spring up, especially if it receives political funding from East Asian countries.

    Muslims can form a third-party, just like the Dravidian parties have been happy to do for years.
     
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    Why budhism..
    Why cant it be a democratic party?
     
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    Pakistan is worried because India followed
    Sam Dam Dhand Bhed

    Modi Doval party called the Patwari to explain him things on day 1.
    Later they went to Pak to explain them things again through business and all.
    Surgical strikes happened
    India started supporting Baloch and PoK freedom fighter's moral.

    Some 'dand' will happen soon once again, this time bigger one.
     
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    Thanks for tagging me.

    Well nothing new in it. Pakistanis are trying to use these so-called fault lines since very long time. It nurtured Khalistan movement. Since long it has used its modules in Bangladesh to fuel anti-state movements in various parts of North East. Maowadi or Naxali armed insurgents have been long provided support by ISI. Many religious tensions and riots in past had Pakistan involved in one way or another. Islamic extremism that we see in India today has been firmly backed and is being fueled by Pakistan. Pakistan has used anti-nation(i take the liberty to speak straight) political parties to counter nationalist forces and etc. The Point i am making is, Pakistan has tried all and except part success in Kashmir has failed in all. But still it thinks i can this time. While it will never understand why it is failing. And that reason in our inherent strength the Hindu way of life that has accommodated almost every religion among themselves. Even today we are doing it. We talk hard on Kashmir but we are humane to Kashmiris, Mizos, Manipuris even Naxalites etc. This what Pakistan can never match. Because it can't even accommodate fellow Bengali Muslims for more than 25 years. And because of this they will never succeed.

    As far as political gimmicks of ISI's puppets in Indian political system is concerned. Well recently by opening their mouth on Surgical Strikes asking for proof they only further exposed themselves. I have personally witnessed my friends who were staunch supporter of AAP now cursing it and changed sides. I loved the self goal politics.

    Last time the motivated debate on Intolerance did win them brownie points in form of defeat of BJP in Bihar elections but it also exposed the motive. Most importantly BJP and other nationalists now have counter for it. UP will see it in action.
     
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    Zargar, the man who massacred 40 Kashmiri Pandits, being re-launched by ISI
    Ahmed Zargar of the Al-Umar-Mujaheedin may be a forgotten name in India today. Just to recall, he was one of the terrorists who was released in exchange during the Khandahar hijack incident along with Maulana Masood Azhar.

    While Azhar returned to Pakistan and launched the Jaish-e-Mohammad, Zargar was told to lie low. Today the man responsible for killing 40 Kashmiri Pandits is back in business after being told by the ISI to relaunch his activities in Jammu and Kashmir.



    The officials who are well-versed with terrorism in the Valley say that this man is dangerous. He may be a forgotten name today and that is why the ISI, with an intention of creating an element of surprise, is planning on activating him and his network.

    He is responsible for the killing of nearly 40 Kashmiri Pandits. After his arrest in 1992, he was released in 1999 in exchange for the hostages aboard the IC-814. Zargar's operations are well known in Jammu and Kashmir.

    He has been involved in large scale recruitment and had worked closely with the Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front before splitting up.

    He formed the Al-Umar-Mujaheedin. He was also responsible for the abduction of Rubaiya Saeed, sister of Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister, Mehbooba Mufti in 1989. Intelligence Bureau officials say that following his release, he was lying low.

    However now, he has been told to step up operations in Jammu and Kashmir. He has been trying to activate his old contacts in the Valley. Residing in Pakistan occupied Kashmir, Zargar was recently contacted by the ISI and told to relaunch the outfit and operations in the Valley.

    Further, the IB has also intimated security forces to be on the watch out for groups such as the Al-Badr, Ikhwan-ul-Mujahiddin and Al-Jihad. These are small groups that are present in PoK. They too would be launched into the Valley.

    This is being done as there is too much heat on the Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad who are finding it difficult to operate in the Valley today.

    IB officials say that the ISI is known to launch unknown groups into India when the heat on their main proxies in very high.

    http://www.oneindia.com/india/zarga...shmiri-pandits-being-re-launched-2238196.html.


    Seems like ISI must have lost one HVT during the Surgical Strike that they are launching another or must be starting multiple fronts on proxy
     
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    I support the BJP, but I dislike a lack of support for anyone who isn't a strong upper class muscular man who lives in New Delhi.

    India is very similar to the diversity found in Europe. The European Union's largest political alliance is the People's Party which supports Christian Democracy. In the English-speaking world, this is predominantly known as Conservatism.

    I think the BJP should transform into a party that follows an Indian version of a conservatism, Hindu Democracy. But I want the political alliance to support the minorities too, making allowances for sexual minorities, women, disabled, foreigners, etc...

    While I'm fairly right-wing economically, I can understand that many people simply desire a party that cares more about the lower classes, which is where I think a party that follows an Indian version of socialism should be used, as in Buddhist Democracy.

    Buddhism is already associated heavily with helping the lower classes through missionaries such as navayāna. Unlike Hinduism which advocated more "free/liberal" political policies, Buddhism tends to advocate more socialist policies similar to Europe's Nordic Model, such as restrictions on alcohol, prostitution, and drugs.

    I don't think Hinduism can ever cater for these "socialist" voters, because too many of them associate Hindu parties with classism far too strongly. A Buddhist party will be lapped up by India's socialist votes as Trump did with Sanders.

    tl;dr: Hindu Democratic Party (social conservatism), Buddhist Democratic Party (nordic-model socialism), and third-parties...
     
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    Its a good sales pitch that way!! I Agree!
     
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    This is the most far fetched Paki strategy I have seen in quite some time. Sure we have countless divisive issues in our country and sure the Central Govt. and the civil society have terribly failed in addressing those issues. But to assume that Maoists or Naxalites would bank upon Paki support is the stupidest notion I could ever entertain. Even the Chinese don't have any serious ties with the our domestic Naxalites due to a massive ideological divide. I think the Naxalites consider Muslims to be a bigger problem than the Indian State.

    Frankly had the Naxalites still been a menace then we wouldn't have been witnessing the ongoing onslaught of illegal Bangladeshi migrants in West Bengal.
     
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    sorcerer Senior Member Senior Member

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    chinese doesnt care about the ideology..but only about the idea that is a rising India! and they will provide all sort of support..intel. and arms to the asset the chinese has developed with the commie party of India and prop it against the Union of India
     
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    Vote for Bahujan Samaj Party.....


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    Thanks for informing me of that party. I think it would be a positive if that party merged into the Navayana movement and turned more "Buddhist". It should court a lot of lawmakers who currently subscribe to the INC.

    I would hope that the result would be that the new Buddhist party stops courting muslim votes, and instead fights on the ideology of socialism that Gandhi would have preferred

    I personally prefer to vote for a Hindu Democratic party. I just don't enjoy some of the anti-minority rhetoric from the BJP. I support feminism, gay rights, etc...
     
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    Well, he just fooled you. There's a lot about BSP you don't know and I trust me, you won't like to know as well.:D
     

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