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    Hindu terrorists inflitrate Indian Army
    Filed under: World — Farooq Hussain, (Pakistan Daily | The Pakistan News Agency) @ 1:45 am
    This dual linkage of young Indian officers with both military and Hindu terrorist organizations has caused a cancer to the military establishment in India.

    The Brahminical suicide squad was set up at Pune in 2000.

    The retired Lt.-Col.. Jayant Chitale is not the first Puneite to think of establishing Hindu suicide squads to fight “Islamic terrorism”. The Lashkar-e-Shivba was formed to fight Lashkar-e-Taiba.

    While the organisation is in tatters today, its founder and self-proclaimed commander-in-chief, Vilas Tupe, is bitter about his failed venture. “My experience of raising Hindu terrorist squads and sending them to Jammu and Kashmir was so bitter that I would like to forget it”, he said. A small-time city builder now, Tupe wishes to forewarn Chitale that his attempt is doomed without money and political patronage.

    Incidentally, Tupe was attempting to attack Osho Rajneesh with a knife in the 1980s because “Rajneesh was a CIA agent”. Talking about his anti-terrorism venture, he said he was inspired to form his outfit after the attack on “innocent” Amarnath pilgrims in 2000. While he was planning to counter terrorism in Punjab in a similar manner, the then Director-General of Punjab Police, Julieo Ribero, had suggested arming villagers and creating gram suraksha dals, Tupe said. We went to Punjab, met Ribero and offered ourselves for these dals.

    “We even received training for three months at the BSF camps, he claimed. However, the initiative failed as the Union home secretary objected to it, Tupe said.

    After he announced the forming of Lashkar-e-Shivba, he received an overwhelming response from nearly 2,500 youths from Sangli, Satara, Kolhapur and Ahmednagar districts. Of these, 150 were shortlisted and trained after which “we left for Jammu to visit terrorist-infested districts”.

    “The plan, however, was aborted after a month as we had no money or political support”.

    Meanwhile, Lt. Col. Chitale, who has established the Hindustan Atma Ghatki Pathak (Hindustan suicide squad) said that his squad was not specifically a Hindu squad. “We are forming Hindustan suicide squads and over 10 per cent of our volunteers are Muslim and Christians”, he claimed.


    BAJRANG DAL & MILITARY

    Chitale’s squad had 45 enthusiastic young men who have completed commando training and signed a bond that they are willing to die for the country. This is the Hindutva response to the Islamic madrassa and terrorist culture.

    Links of Indian military with Hindutva organizations are no secret now. Most of organizations working in Indian society since ages like the Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal etc. have long history of having links with military establishment at different level. The root of this cooperation is decades-old appeal: “India is for Hindus only”. This is nothing new but there is something new and that is the growing influence of this ideology among Indian military and elements that are now not in control of Indian military or Indian govt. but they are on their own agenda of Hindutva, a name given to the same old appeal of race and religion regarding India.

    SHIV SENA MAN AS ARMY GENERAL ?

    Over the years Indian youth is becoming part of these militant outfits working under these organizations with same ideology of Hindu terrorism but it never ends here as same youth got recruited into Indian military on regular basis. After being recruited these Hindu fundamentalist keep their links intact with entities like RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena etc.

    This dual linkage of young Indian officers with both military and Hindu terrorist organizations has caused a cancer to the military establishment in India.

    It has brought elements into Indian military who have their own goals which do not conform well with military discipline. An army with irrepressible elements is as dangerous to any country as its real enemy’s army can be or even more.

    Officers like Gen. (R) Premnath Hoon joined the Indian army decades ago and served at different posts all the way to the rank of General before he retired. What is revealing that he was one of the founding fathers of the military wing of Shiv Sena. This also proves that either before joining or during his service in military he established links with Shiv Sena but what is more important is that he was not alone in this venture but there was active support from Indian military through his contacts he made during service like Col. Jayant Chitale who was also in-charge in military selection center at Pune for many years.

    Initiating military training from scratch has its own prerequisites like infrastructure, trainers, weapons and most importantly a slogan to motivate new recruitment. This is where assets belonging to RSS/Bajrang Dal/VHP and Shiv Sena in Indian military and RAW enter into equation to bail out above mentioned Hindu terrorist organisations all of them vying for Hindu Rashtra (Hindu State). This process is in place there since many decades and now it is impossible to tell exactly till what level these elements are controlling Indian military and RAW’s resources to complete Hindu Rashtra dream.


    RAW TAKE OVER

    RAW also needs these militants to carry out its operation both inside and outside India. As it happens in intelligence business it is not always necessary to give minutest details to government officials until the state is getting its objective served. It was matter of time when these terrorists take over RAW as well. Without active support of RAW it is not possible to carry out these massive training programs, coordination among different groups spread all over India and abroad, Only a military intelligence organization like RAW can make all this happen.

    RAW reports to the Indian prime minister directly. What is more startling to know is how the “world’s biggest democracy” is involved in destabilizing its neighbors. There are many operations launched by RAW against its neighbours specially Pakistan and Lanka due to reason that both these countries are located at critical geopolitical location on map.

    All these operations were carried out with consent of different Indian PMs during their occupancy in Delhi. In all these operations RAW always used terrorists trained by the Hindutva organizations and in return RAW and intelligence agencies turned a blind eye to whatever these organizations were doing to the minorities in India be it Muslims, Christians or Sikhs, no one is immune to this dormant infection of Hindutva in Indian society. Successive Indian governments until recently ignored this ever growing influence of Hindutva ideology in military and RAW as there is always an excuse in minds of Indian politicians i.e. Pakistan and ISI to put all the blame on for all the sufferings of Indian minorities.


    JAYANT CHITALE’S ROLE

    The close relations between Gen. Hoon and Col. Jayant Chitale are not a secret. The two have been involved in forming Hindu suicide squad to be used against minorities in India on pretext of fighting the terrorism.

    Recently Lt. Col. (retired) Jayant Rao Chitale once again openly admitted training suicide Hindu bombers although he tried to reject that only Hindus are part of suicide squad by saying that the suicide squad was secular.

    Lt. Col Chitale, the dictator of “Maharashtra Military Foundation”, while speaking to the media said “Ours is a truly secular suicide squad. Every Indian is welcome to join my suicide squad.” The training session for the suicide squad, which includes the use of lathis and swords, takes place near Vasat village at Ambernath, an industrial town, which is over 50 km from Bombay, from where according to Chitale a batch of 30 students has passed out in the last 15 days.

    SUICIDE SQUADS TO ATTACK PAKISTAN

    Earlier another Hindu terrorist Shiv Sena called for forming ‘Hindu suicide squads’ to tackle terrorism in India.

    After openly admitting training Hindu youth for suicide bombing, Chitale said:

    I have been requesting the government for the last three years to form this suicide squad. “I have sent letters to the Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, President Abdul Kalam and the army chief about the formation of these suicide squads, but there was no response. So, I started the training programme.”

    Asked what his recruits would do, he said, “The Pakistanis have disturbed the internal peace in India and my suicide squads will do the same thing in Pakistan.”

    It was earlier mentioned that Chitale was supported by retired Lt. Gen. P. N. Hoon and a few other ex-servicemen belonging to the Shiv Sena.


    R.S.S. TRAINING

    When the media asked Hoon for his comments he only denied that Shiv Sena was backing the suicide bomb training. He said:

    We have started this program on our own because the country needs such youth to tackle terrorism. Today, the country is being destroyed by the Pakistan ISI. And we have to do something about it. So, we feel that these suicide squads are the answer for the Pakistanis.


    ROLE OF HINDUTVA IN 26/11 & ITS GOALS

    Both Premnath Hoon and Jayant Chitale also served RAW at different positions. Police on several occasions got information about the involvement of these elements in terrorist activities but every time some unseen hidden hands stopped the investigation in middle before it could be completed. One such example is ATS (Anti-Terror Squad) investigations from Col Jayant in 2002. The investigations were forced to stop when ATS was about to prove links between Indian military and Hindu Zionists and this intervention came from nowhere else but from RAW.

    Recent attacks in Bombay was another manifestation of these Hindu elements who perpetrated Babri Mosque, Godhra Train fire, Gujarat massacre, killing of Christians, Malegoan bombing, Samjhuta Express and countless other operations against minorities.


    WHO KILLED KARKARE ?

    Till start of November 2008 every Indian newspaper was publishing reports of arrest of Col. Purohit and his confession about Malegoan bombing and supplying deadly RDX for Samjhuta Express inferno in 2007. What was the most shocking news in the first 15 minutes of Bombay attacks was the murder of 3 top ATS officers including ATS chief Hemant Karkare at the hands of gunmen on Nov. 26, 2008.

    It is now becoming more and more evident that he was actually murdered by cold blooded assassins of Hindutva trained in RAW’s training camps.

    This linkage of RAW and terrorists was exactly what Hemant Karkare was investigating from Col. Prasad Purohit, a serving officer in Indian army currently deputed in RAW who was arrested by ATS in connection with the Malegoan bomb blasts and Samjhuta express.

    It was only after Nov.8, 2008 when news started surfacing about Purohit’s confession in Malegoan blasts and Samjhuta express incident. He also revealed that he was not only the serving army officer who is linked to Premnath Hoon’s terror network. Ramesh Upadhyaya, a retired Major in the Army, was also among accused in Malegoan blasts. But ATS soon disclosed that there may be two other serving colonels facing charges of involvement in these blasts in Malegoan on Sept. 07, 2008. Now it was clear that ATS will soon uncover the whole cartel of Hindu terrorists in midst of Indian military establishment and RAW. So the Hindu terrorist organizations started giving life threats to the chief of Anti-Terrorist squad, Hament Karkare, but he carried on his work till the D-Day arrived i.e 26/11/08. Investigations were little slow as ATS was not receiving required cooperation from police in neighbouring states but still at that time a lot was already known to media and masses both about where actual problem lies.


    BID TO KILL KARKARE

    After calculating the expected damage to their cartel, the Hindu terrorist groups decided to eliminate Karkare. But it was to be done in a way that no body should have doubts about. Again trained terrorists of Atma Ghatak Phatak (AGP) [suicidal squad once desired by Bal Thackeray] were picked for the job to eliminate Karkare in a way that the blame can be put on Pakistan and ISI.

    India tried its best to stage a perfect terrorist plot being planned and controlled from Pakistan by ISI. But it seems now that India fell into hole it dig for Pakistan as more and more reports are coming on media about these attacks and inefficiency of Indian police, Army, RAW to protect Indian citizens. More confessions are on the way to unleash the sinister nexus between RAW, Indian army and terrorists.

    Latest investigation from Col. Purohit revealed that more colonels and a major were also part of Malegaon. At start Indian army was very mortified when Col. Purohit’s confession came to media about Malegaon and Samjhuta Express. Col. Raikar and Col. Hasmukh Patel was also part of masterminding Malegaon blasts.

    The above mentioned officers, although not charged, but are under investigation. Other serving officer who is being accused and investigated in official chargesheet is Colonel Bapaditya Dhar of Parachute regiment at Panchmarhi.


    A..K. ANTONY REMARKS

    Does it not indicate clear links of Indian Army with Hindu terrorist organizations uncovering fascist elements among top ranks of Indian Army? After these facts emerged Indian establishment was forced to pretend as they were never aware of these terrorists in their midst. One such statement was made by Defence Minister A .K. Antony saying that his ministry and the Army were “fully cooperating” with the investigating agencies. “It’s a matter of serious concern to all of us…. We are determined to go to the root of the entire issue,” he said. “We are awaiting their (ATS and IB) report…. We will take all necessary steps after that. We are also taking internal steps (to prevent any occurrence of such incidents),” he added.


    RAW TRAINED L.T.T.E.

    But why he is not ready to throw light on what former Indian Prime Minister V.P. Singh said before the Jain Commission in Nov. 1996 about the forming LTTE terrorist network 1983. He said:

    “ First batch of training of Lankan Tamil militants was done by India in 1983 under the orders of then Prime Minister (Late) Mrs. Indira Gandhi. The camp was located at Chakrata, Tamil Nadu.”

    Indian Army Chief Gen. Kapoor said, “steps are being taken to prevent involvement of its officers in terror attacks”. Why he did not announce an inquiry to find out remains of this nexus between Indian military and Hindu terrorists.


    MOTIVE BEHIND 26/11

    1. Eliminate Hemant Karkare along with his team to put breaks on ongoing investigations which were illuminating all links between Indian military, RAW and Hindu terrorists.

    2. Divert attention towards ISI so that next time no one in India could ask about those investigations done by Karkare and his team before they got assassinated.

    3. Advocate Hindutva message that Muslims are root cause of panic in India so these must be either converted to Hinduism or must be eliminated from Indian soil.

    4. Create a media wave to divert attention from incidents like Malegaon and Samjhuta Express blast and hence diverting attention from investigations of these incidents as well.

    It is also to be noted that Lt. Col. Jayant Chitale and serving Indian Col. Purohit are also neighbors whereas Gen. Hoon and many other ex-Indian army officers are active contributors to suicide bombing training to Hindu youth and also admit it openly. This is a dangerous scenario for India in common and the world in general where the elements from Indian army are taking part in training suicide bombers after becoming part of Hindu terrorist organizations.


    HINDU TERRORISTS MAY TAKEOVER NUKES

    If these elements are let loose in future, which is a sure possibility keeping in view track record of RAW, then there is strong possibility of falling of Indian nukes into the hands of Hindu terrorists.

    India had been having civilian governments throughout its history while armed forces have been sidelined in many issues including nukes which are under the civilian government more than the Indian army.

    But unfortunately Indian politics and successive governments over the years have been manipulated by Hindu terrorists like RSS, Bajrang Dal and BJP. These organisations over the decades since creation of India have gradually penetrated the Indian army. Now with top ranking officials of Indian army having links with Hindu hardliner politicians who are fanatics and running suicide training camps, it is feared that Indian nuclear assets may slip into the hands of Hindu terrorists who have been ruthlessly killing Christians, Muslims and Dalits in India. (Asian Tribune, Bal Patil).

    DISMISSAL OF ANTULAY

    Bal Patil

    As an independent observer of the Indian political scene and its ups and downs in the last four decades, and a journalist and an ex-Member of the Media Expert Committee of the Government of India, I was simply stunned by the frenzied debate in and out of Parliament and on the TV channels asking for the dismissal of A.R. Antulay for his observation that there is more to it than meets the eye in Hemant Karkare’s killing and that it should be investigated. To be frank. I could not make out what political or secular blasphemy Antulay thereby committed.

    The first and last principle of fair reporting is : comment is free but facts are sacred. Only a day before the 26/11 terrorist attack BJP leaders were calling ATS Chief Karkare a deshdrohi, a traitor— an offence which carries death penalty. Ironically the very same leaders were calling A.R. Antulay also deshdrohi, and worse, a Pakistani agent. I am merely putting the record straight.

    Permit me to recall: Karkare episode when you and your party Members were going into the well of the House and/or standing in your seats and I heard allegations hurled at Antulay of being not only anti-national but also being an agent of Pakistan and brother of Dawood. I was stunned at such patently false, mischievous and malicious allegations.

    I would particularly like to draw your attention to the Awami Bharat Press

    Conference held at Mumbai Marathi Patrakar Sangh on Dec.20, 2008, demanding a high level probe into the deaths of Karkare, Kamte and Salaskar and supporting the demand made by A. R. Antulay and thanking him for having brought this issue to the centre stage of the national debate, and further that the remarks by Antulay have stirred the latent doubts among all communities and the popular perception far differs from what the media would have us believe.


    BULLET FOR BULLET

    A section of the MPs and a large sections, of media are outraged by Antulays voicing a demand for investigation of Karkare’’s killing. May I ask in all journalistic and secular conscience why every true Indian committed to the secular ideal of the constitution should not feel outraged by the following interview in the Outlook Magazine (Nov. 17, 2008) with Himani Savarkar

    ‘If We Can Have Bullet For Bullet, Why Not Blast For Blast?’

    Smt. Himani Savarkar, the niece of Nathuram Godse, and daughter of Gopal Godse married to Veer Savarkar’s nephew, is the president of the Abhinav Bharat… Some members of this organisation have been linked to the Malegaon bomb attack of Sept. 29. Himani spoke to the Outlook (Nov.17, 2008) as follows:





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    I want to see such stupid people at least once in my life. Do they write this stuff out of stupidity or to misguide their readers or is it easy availability of hashish in Pakistan.:blum3:
     
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    are we in denial mode? if evidence provided for such claims that would be more interesting.
     
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    Even atoms and empty space are opinions.

    BTW - this Pakistani website seems to be more of a blog than anything else.
     
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    Such poor quality writing however appeals to the idiots. It has its value in indoctrination.
     
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    And I am the fool that made you read it!!:)
     
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