Pakistan's Bin Laden dossier

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    Pakistan's Bin Laden dossier
    Al Jazeera exclusive: The investigation into the death of al-Qaeda's leader blames top leaders for 'gross incompetence'.
    Asad Hashim Last Modified: 08 Jul 2013 15:33

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    On the night of May 1, 2011, US special forces launched a raid deep into Pakistani territory to capture or kill al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden. On President Barack Obama's orders, US soldiers flew via helicopter to the Pakistani army garrison town of Abbottabad, where their intelligence indicated he was hiding out. In the process of raiding the compound, Bin Laden and four others were killed. Several people were wounded.

    Following the operation, which was deliberately conducted without the knowledge of the Pakistani government or its military, a Commission was set up in Pakistan to examine "how the US was able to execute a hostile military mission, which lasted around three hours, deep inside Pakistan", and how Pakistan's "intelligence establishment apparently had no idea that an international fugitive of the renown or notoriety of [Osama bin Laden] was residing in [Abbottabad]".

    For the first time, Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit is bringing the results of the investigation to the public.


    View the Abbottabad Commission report
    The Abbottabad Commission was charged with establishing whether the failures of the Pakistani government and military were due to incompetence - or complicity. It was given overarching investigative powers, and, in the course of its inquiry, interviewed more than 201 witnesses - including members of Bin Laden's own family, the chief of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence, and other senior provincial, federal and military officials.

    The Commission's 336-page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for "gross incompetence", leading to "collective failures" that allowed Bin Laden to escape detection, and the United States to perpetrate "an act of war".

    It also notes that the government's intention in conducting the inquiry was likely aimed at "regime continuance, when the regime is desperate to distance itself from any responsibility for the national disaster that occurred on its watch". It says that the inquiry was likely "a reluctant response to an overwhelming public and parliamentary demand".


    Spotlight
    Al Jazeera's exclusive coverage of the leaked Bin Laden files
    The Abbottabad Commission found that there had been a complete collapse of governance and law enforcement - a situation it termed "Government Implosion Syndrome", both in the lack of intelligence on Bin Laden's nine-year residence in Pakistan, and in the response to the US raid that killed him. It finds that "culpable negligence and incompetence at almost all levels of government can more or less be conclusively established".
    On the presence of a CIA network in Pakistan tracking down Bin Laden, without the Pakistani establishment's knowledge, the Commission finds "this [was] a case of nothing less than a collective and sustained dereliction of duty by the political, military and intelligence leadership of the country".

    It also states that the US violation of Pakistani sovereignty, in carrying out the raid unilaterally, had been allowed to happen due to inaccurate and outdated threat assessments within the country's defence and strategic policy establishments.

    This [was] a case of nothing less than a collective and sustained dereliction of duty by the political, military and intelligence leadership of the country.

    Abbottabad Commission report

    "It is official or unofficial defence policy not to attempt to defend the country if threatened, or even attacked by a military superpower like the US?" the Commission asks of several top military officers.

    "From a Pakistani strategic doctrine point of view," the report notes, while issuing findings on how the military had wholly focused its "peacetime deployment" of defence capabilities on the border with India, "the world stood still for almost a decade."

    Finally, through testimony from Bin Laden’s family and intelligence officials, it provides a fascinating, and richly detailed, account of Bin Laden's time in Pakistan: his movements, his habits and his pattern of life.

    In concluding its report, the Commission finds that the country's "political, military intelligence and bureaucratic leadership cannot be absolved of their responsibility for the state of governance, policy planning and policy implementation that eventually rendered this national failure almost inevitable", and calls on the country's leadership to formally apologise to the people of Pakistan for "their dereliction of duty".
    Perhaps aware of the implications of its findings, the Commission notes that it had "apprehensions that the Commission’s report would be ignored, or even suppressed", and urged the government to release it to the public.

    It did not do so. The report was buried by the government and never made public.

    Until now.

    Al Jazeera has obtained a copy of the Commission's report, and presents it here, in full, along with accompanying coverage to help unpick the details, and implications of its findings.



    Page 197 of the report, which contains part of the testimony of Lt-Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha, then director of the ISI, was missing from all copies of the report that Al Jazeera obtained from multiple sources. It is unclear what was contained on that page, but the contextual implication is that, among other things, it contains a list of seven demands made by the United States of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks in 2001.

    Pakistan's Bin Laden dossier - Features - Al Jazeera English
     
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    this report needs to be mirrored NOW !
     
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    Pakistan's Air Force Learned About the Bin Laden Raid on TV

    The Pakistani air force learned about the U.S. raid to kill Osama bin Laden from a television news report about a helicopter crash in Abbottabad. Belatedly, they scrambled fighter jets. But by then, the Americans were long gone.

    In other words: Pakistan had virtually no chance of detecting U.S. choppers as they flew into the Pakistani equivalent of West Point. And if they raid was done all over again, they still wouldn't catch the aircraft. That's according to a leaked report from Pakistan's independent Abbottabad Commission that was charged by the Pakistani government to investigate the raid.

    The commission says the Pakistani military never saw the raid coming because of the American choppers' stealthy, noise-reducing equipment, the skill of their crews at flying below radar, and the fact that Pakistan's air defenses are focused on its border with India, not Afghanistan.

    The U.S. "was never expected to commit such a dastardly act," the commission's report quotes the unnamed deputy chief of Pakistan's air staff for operations (DCAS) as saying. The raid was so unexpected that the Pakistanis had no radars looking at the valleys along their northwest border with Afghanistan that the U.S. troops used to fly from Jalalabad in Afghanistan to Abbottabad, Pakistan, according to the report, first published by Al Jazeera.

    Even if it had positioned radars to monitor the border, they wouldn't have made much difference. A separate Pakistani air force (PAF) board of inquiry into the raid concluded that "given the current inventory of radars, a repetition of a similar U.S. raid in the future would be difficult for the PAF to handle," the commission notes. "The U.S. was the only country in the world to have mastered stealth technology at an operational level, and the PAF did not have radars that could detect the intrusion of stealth objects."

    Here are the key sentences in the report describing how the Pakistani air force learned of the raid, after it was over.

    "The PAF first learnt of the Abbottabad raid at about 0207 on May 2" an hour and a half after the raid began and about 40 minutes after it ended, when, the DCAF told the commission, "'Pakistan TV channels started showing an Army helicopter crash at Abbottabad.' After ‘completion of the operation [by the SEALs] in about 40 minutes' the U.S. forces destroyed the crashed helicopter and ‘the other helicopters began their return at about 01110 hours and exited Pakistan airspace at approximately 0200 hours.'"

    That means that SEALs along with Osama's body were already back inside Afghanistan by the time the Pakistani air force even knew of the raid. Remember, U.S. officials apparently drew up plans for American troops to fight their way out of Pakistan in case they were intercepted by the Pakistani military.

    Nevertheless, Pakistani fighter jets were immediately scrambled and over Abbottabad about 15 minutes after taking off. (Remember: early American news coverage of the raid that said the choppers were almost caught by Pakistani fighter jets.) The report goes on to note that the jets entered the space around Abbottabad with no intelligence on what they were supposed to be looking for.

    So, Pakistan couldn't stop the U.S. raid on its territory, period. Just another reason why the raid was "one of the most embarrassing incidents in the history of Pakistan," the report quotes the DCAS as saying.
     
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    Pakistan also blocked the al jazeera website :laugh:
     
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    lol, whole world now know about it except Pakistanis, who have been feed nothing but lies.
     
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    Looks like their commission has not shown these pics which PAF proudly display

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    TPS-77 radar which Pak got from US has 360 degree coverage and they have got 6-8 of these radars

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    from the LM website, who makes the radar.

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    so to hide their incompetent PAF, false and fabricated reports were made.................. to save face...........[​IMG]
     
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    Interesting findings by the commission. The best way forward is to damn all and put the major blame on the civilian Government, while skirting on the most important point- who took the decision to give sanctuary to OBL and who all were aware of this?

    Till the time these questions are not answered this chapter will never be closed.
     
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    This makes all the more important for India to concentrate on Tajikistan Airbase. pakis major concentration is in its eastern border so India should have a squadron or 2 to attack pakis from north-western borders.
     
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    Sir it is big report i have download it, in free time i will read the report and then the fun will begain.
     
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    Since OBL lived in Pakistan for 9 years and in Abottabad for 6 years
    it was definitely KNOWN to ISI and At least a few Pak Army Lt Generals
    ie few of their Corps commanders
     
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    OBL was a blank cheque for ISI. pakis milked USA with $$$ in the name of WOT. it was ISI game to hid osama in their backyard
     
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    Now the hen laying golden eggs is dead, uncles money supply and military aid will be stop and uncle is getting out of af-pak.
     
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    So Nawaj Sharif Government has released or leaked this report ?

    This should be the first ever commission report made public in history of Pakistan ?
     
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    army and Military dont like NS and NS dont like them.
     
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    Is this report going to bring criticism of Pakistan Army from its international masters and expose their double games ? If not then Nawaj Sharif is safe.
     
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    PAF come to know about the OBL raid from TV, they also said that even if radar was on they wont have detected the plane, if this is the case, PAF wont even know that US has take out their nuke, until US planes get out of Paksitani airspace with all their nukes.
     
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    Not all the Aircraft were stealth aircraft. The Gunships accompanying the Stealth helicopter and the Fixed wings flying in support from Afghanistan were not stealth. It was just a case of extreme sloppiness from the Pakistani side and/or this is the level of their air defences. All the Americans did was fly at low altitude and in all probability the guys on the radar had been bribed to look the other way. This is how things work in Pakistan.
     
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    Sir Pakistan has TPS-77 radars, US had 9 months to plan this, as per their sale agreements they inspect the equipment, they must have put software to make sure that radar on Afghan side wont show any US aircraft on screen, by rigging the software.
    That is why i am against purchase from US. They are not worth it specially for offensive weapons.
     

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