Pakistanis want to be Arabs?

Hamza Baloch

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By South Indians I think, you mean ppl of Dravidian origin.
According to Continental drift theory (later known to be tectonic-plate shift), Africa and Asia were fused together. Tectonic-plate shift caused formation of a huge chasm which was filled by water from surrounding Indian Ocean. Some of the Africans remained on the north-eastern side of Indian Ocean (Indian peninsula). They are the modern day Tamil, Telugu & Malayalee. Here I reproduce an excerpt from Leopold Sedar Sengkor (President of Senegal) (Lecture delivered in Madras under the auspices of the International Institute of Tamil Studies on the 23rd May, 1974):
Negrititude and Dravidian Culture
Southern India is in the same latitude as Senegal, Mali, Niger, Chad, Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia. More than this, only the Indian Ocean separates the eastern coast of Africa from the south of India. As a matter of fact, geologists maintain that the Indian sub continent was formerly attached to East Africa. In this respect the findings of marine biology are of outstanding importance.
All that is needed, therefore, is for archeologists and pre historians to have a chance to explore the depths of the seas, to discover old lithic industries or human skeleton fossils, in the area stretching from East Africa to Southern India. Unless, of course, the Indian Ocean existed long before the human race appeared. In any case, Tamil legends refer to the existence, from time immemorial, of flourishing cities long since buried beneath the seas.
This is perhaps a reference to that stretch of land which was supposed to have linked India and Africa and was presumably engulfed by the ocean during Continental drift. I should like in passing to note that it is not at all fortuitous that early civilizations which arose in the valleys of the Nile, the Tigris and Euphrates, and lastly of the Indus, bore the marks of black men.

In any case, it is remarkable that the pithecanthrops - proconuls and australopithecs - who whilst not the ancestors of the human species, are zoologically their next of kin as infra and parahominins, proliferated simultaneously in East Africa and Southern India. Here is what Pierre Teilhard Chardin wrote in his book L’ Apparition de l’ Homme (The Appearance of man):
It was on a tropical and subtropical area of the Old World, an area which in fact extended across India to Malaysia, but basically located on the African continent, that the evolution of the higher primates gradually took place.”
Thus re-stated, this theory would not be too much at variance with Islamic belief, which claims that Adam, the father of mankind, appeared in India and Awa, our maternal ancestor, in Southern Arabia, and that they met at Harafat. It is curious coincidence that attan is the word for ’father’ in Tamil (-n and -m being interchangeable in that language) and ava, the word for ‘mother’ in Kannada (avvai in Tamil, av in Kota, ave in Kodagu)
Origin of the Dravidian Race

We know that some anthropologists tried to identify the Dravidians with what is known as “the Mediterranean race’. Such a general label which conceals gaps in our knowledge of anthropology is indeed confusing -- I had said dangerous, since it could suggest an interpretation of the concept of race in terms of geographical demarcation, whereas the notions of race, when stripped of certainly accessory details boils down essentially to skin colour. This is the sense in which we speak of ‘black race’, ‘ white race’ or ‘yellow race’.
Consequently, it might have been less ambiguous, as some experts have done, to call that Mediterranean race the “Negroid race” , since its characteristics are precisely those of the blacks in general: an elongated skull, dark or brown skin, these two adjectives being quite often euphemisms for ‘black’ .
( Notes(Loga). In Tamil there is a term ‘maRavar, maaRan’ etc a name of a group of Tamils especially in Pandiya country. It is interesting that the root ‘maRu’ also means black )
In any case, as I stated in a lecture I gave at Cairo University in February 1967, on the Foundations of Africanity or Negritude and Arabism, my professor at the Ethnological Institute in Paris, Dr. Paul Rivet, used to say: ‘ there is a ratio of 4 to 18 per cent black blood around the Mediterranean sea’. He thus referred to the Negroids of the early Paleolithic and Mesolithic - Grimaldi Man and Caspian Man -- an important group of the Mediterranean populations until the Neolithic
We shall not mention all the theories on the origins of the Dravidians, since the problem is still very much unsolved: we shall mention one only, namely, a black sub-race among the populations of Southern India. This said, we should not underrate the importance of the blood ties between Dravidians and the Black Africans , especially as the black Dravidian sub-race is the same as the black East African sub-race which is to be found in the same latitude. During my last visit to Addis Ababa, I was very much impressed with the large number of Ethiopians who, with their fine features, black skin and straight hair, look like Dravidians. I mentioned this to the Emperor who, with a knowing air, merely smiled a royal smile.
In short, as we can see, the similarity between India and Black Africa, is essentially based on geography, anthropology and history.
Cultural Contacts

First, on the subject of ethnology, we have facts to which certain authors, particularly German ethnologists, have drawn attention.
Foremost among them is Leo Frobenius, who had defined ‘Eritrean Culture’, as being probably the survival of an ancient culture common to southern Asia - more particularly to India - and Black Africa. This culture probably came to Africa via the North and the South, on the one hand, from the Red Sea and Ethiopia, on the other, via the Mozambique coast.
Of the characteristics of this cultural cycle, I shall dwell mainly on metallurgy and cotton spinning, which will enable me to prove that, in actual fact, ‘Eritrean Culture’ is the survival of an ancient Indo African Culture. As a matter of fact, the vocabulary relating to metallurgy and cotton spinning is exactly the same in the Negro-African languages and the Dravidian languages of India.
As regards metallurgy, the following comparisons might be made: In Wolof xanjar, ‘bronze’; and in Telugu xancara, ‘work in bronze’; in Bambara numu, ‘forge’, and in Telugu inumu, ‘iron’; in Wolof kamara, ‘ name given to the blacksmith’s caste’, and in Telugu kamara, ‘name given to the blacksmith’s caste’. This latter name can be found in other Dravidian languages and in some Indo-Aryan ones as well.
South Indians are beautiful people - I dont get why people in India tend to be very racist against them.
 

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The guy racist against South Indians was indeed your compatriot DEJAVU who was calling them black "african immigrants".

Before being patronizing, atleast check what your own side said.
Does he really represent me and the 200 million Pakistanis...?

And please - the amount of racism in this forum from Indians is incomparable to Dejavu.
 

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Does he really represent me and the 200 million Pakistanis...?

And please - the amount of racism in this forum from Indians is incomparable to Dejavu.
I see a walking, talking bomb is preaching morality. How beautiful.
 

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Does he really represent me and the 200 million Pakistanis...?

And please - the amount of racism in this forum from Indians is incomparable to Dejavu.
Amazing. You would justify his statement saying he doesn't represent 200 million Pakistanis, and then go on to categorize 1.4 ***** BILLION Indians as racist using NON-EXISTENT racist statements.

I am south Indian and proud of it. Not one single time has anyone on DFI except for perhaps another Pakistani (Farhan) ever used racist slurs on me. Not ONE single time.

We might be of different colour, speak different languages or have different cultures, but what unites us is our ACCEPTANCE. We are all Indian and we are there for each other and that is what matters in the end.

Do you even know just how many of our senior members are South Indians? And just how many are treated no differently by "racist Indians"?

Look around.
 

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South Indians are beautiful people - I dont get why people in India tend to be very racist against them.
As facetious a statement as can be. You can debate without being cocky...
 

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Your gods contradict law and Human morals. You call Islam 'Jahiliya' when it was Islam that purified your disgusting religion of practices like child sacrifices, religious prostitution, forced sati, and ect.. But India has recently been going backwards in time - and these same practices are surfacing again.
Spoken like a true Jahil. A petty jealous monstrosity like allah who goes around telling people to kill anyone who doesn't bend to him can not be a god, but only a demon. Islamic superstition has nothing to offer but hate and hypocrisy. A primitive jungle tribe has better understanding of divine than Islam does. Islam is a disease, allah is a monster, mohammad is a scoundral. Muslims are godless slaves of demon allah, they would be taught how to worship gods properly, all in good time.
 

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Spoken like a true Jahil. A petty jealous monstrosity like allah who goes around telling people to kill anyone who doesn't bend to him can not be a god, but only a demon. Islamic superstition has nothing to offer but hate and hypocrisy. A primitive jungle tribe has better understanding of divine than Islam does. Islam is a disease, allah is a monster, mohammad is a scoundral. Muslims are godless slaves of demon allah, they would be taught how to worship gods properly, all in good time.
Not for nothing Islam is known as "Cult" of Arabian Dacoits. Islam is not a religion; there is nothing pious about it...it is all about greed & hatred.
 

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It baffles me why a country of only 200 million produces beggars !!!

Unemployment turns Karachi's educated man into 'beggar'
Last Updated On 09 January,2016 10:53 am

The optimistic man said that he is still hopeful of a change in his life.
KARACHI (Dunya News) – Unemployment and lack of proper system have altogether turned an educated man into a beggar in Karachi.
The old man who fluently speaks English showed regression over his work and told his story that he has to sleep under theopen sky at some plot. He said he has to take shower in the rain against his will.





The optimistic man said that he is still hopeful of a change in his life. He urged the authorities to take measures for the unemployed and educated people so that they can also serve the nation.
Poor system has defeated the education as the people with degrees are unemployed in teh country, he added.
Moreover, the beggar further expectant to live respectable and reputable life.

 

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Allah ke bande in the holy land of Pakistan

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WHY BEGGING IS HIGHLY POPULAR IN PAKISTAN


It is not difficult to judge that among few ever growing features in Pakistan and Pakistani culture are show off of beggary and self-pity like expressions on public,official and in private places of Islamic republic of Pakistan.Every where you go in Pakistan from posh locality to public places, the crowd of beggars,wearing rags or branded suits and official uniforms are all time there in a mission that they or Pakistan both are in dire need of aid and charity for normal living.

In this regiment of beggars all ages and genders are included showing deep interests of large population toward this highly popular profession in Pakistan.Actually they have become important part of Paki culture and if one see any deserted street or market and official meetings without presence of these beggary attitude one would think that he or she might be in wrong place of real Pakistan.


Philanthropist of Pakistan are very much worried about the rate at which large population is veering towards this beggar business which in itself is precursor to criminal lifestyles as after coming to this profession, people would jump to serious criminal activities including drug trafficking, prostitution, kidnapping, robbery and even murdering.
Begging erases self respect and self reliance and erodes ethical and moral values,
There are many reasons for this sharp increase in beggar attitude of people... like:-
  • Migration of rural people to urban areas which have no capacity and opportunity for them for some kind of respectable survival.
  • Easy way of earning for unskilled people.
  • Extreme rise in prices of food and commodity items not matching with meager income of people having large family.
  • Failures of family planning methodology which is unable control the over population of inactive people of state who have no proper living setup.
  • Corruption and highly degraded moral values of ruling groups.
  • Government policy of behaving like beggars in front of international financial institutes of providing debit for making up deficit of budget without reducing sumptuous of way of living of government, military and political representatives.
It would be incorrect if we assume that Pakistan has the distinction of having highest ratio of beggars population in the world.Pakistan has already come in the race of winning reputation of having suited and uniform beggars with an arrogant attitude in streets and official places that when they don’t get the charity on their terms , they start cursing the givers or donors. This way they might able to keep alive their dying guilt and try to restore the fake honor and dignity for show off.
Very unfortunately, the average Pakistani only seeks to defend honor in order to protect one’s reputation, all time try to boost one’s shallow ego, to raise an imaginary strength to counter reality of actual weakness, to live in state of revenge and retribution for past offenses, and for easy living options etc.All of these reasons are signs of the weakness of the society and it is human weakness that tend people toward beggary like attitude even living in moderate conditions. Pakistani since getting identity of a separate nation is unable to prove its credibility in the area of self-reliance and self building. The so-called honor most often displayed in Pakistani society has little to do with real ethical values or right and wrong but actually a feeling of great weakness and humiliation on global platform.

A great proverb states, “Humility comes before honor and Humility is the beginning of wisdom .Both ultimately give strength to conscious and self-respect of human mind.Only weak, defeated and humiliated people is in need of justification or creating self-pity like scenes to defend honor for publicity and to gain sympathies. The strong, confident and successful have nothing to prove nor defend as the results, successes and strong character speak for themselves.

A crowd of people and nation to build its character and internal strength has little use for superficial and medieval ways to pursue standards of honor. They can prefer to live with in the range of pride and ego, should follow the principles of truth and justice and , must keep back up plans for surviving in harsh times and never let any kind of addicted dependency or help in difficult situation as last choice of survival .

https://naziaiftikhar.wordpress.com...ind-of-living-but-highly-popular-in-pakistan/
 

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Yes the Pakistanis want to be Arabs. This is why Pakis follow the religion of the Arabs, use the Arabic script,
have Arabic names, worship Arab culture and even celebrate Arab invaders like Bin Qasim who conquered
Pakistan in the 8th century. In fact many Pakistanis desperately try to claim Arab ancestry.

Indians should be grateful to Nagabhata of the Pratihara Dynasty and Pulikesi of the Chalukya Dynasty
who defeated the Arab invaders and protected whole India in the 8th century. They protected the
pride and honor of the Indian people which is why we do not name our missiles after Arab invaders as
Pakis use to do.
 

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@sasum should not mention somalians & Dakshan Bharat in same name.
 

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@DEJAVU is himself a Pitch Black Muhajir faking his identity as Persian Syed while shamelessly making fun of South Indians who have better physique than an average Muhajir.

This is proved by their excellent contribution in Sports,however Dravids have a Distinct identity in India.
 

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