Pakistani flag raised in kashmir

[thethinker]

Prior to AFSPA, they raised flags without covering their faces. The flagraisiong is not new, it's been going on for decades. ISIS just came around the corner...

But isn't that contradictory again to what you stated about Kashmiri Muslims being courageous and all?

Why would a trivial element like AFSPA deter the brave mujahids from raising the flag and showing their faces?

ISIS does that for a good reason, maybe same reason the youth raising Pak flag are doing.

 

[Neo]

But isn't that contradictory again to what you stated about Kashmiri Muslims being courageous and all?

Why would a trivial element like AFSPA deter the brave mujahids from raising the flag and showing their faces?

ISIS does that for a good reason, maybe same reason the youth raising Pak flag are doing.

You are trying to link ISIS to indigenous freedom struggle of the Kashmiris and make them look like terrorists. Kashmiris are a brave breed. they've been rejecting Indian rule for 68 years now. Thats my point.

 

[thethinker]

You are trying to link ISIS to indigenous freedom struggle of the Kashmiris and make them look like terrorists. Kashmiris are a brave breed. they've been rejecting Indian rule for 68 years now. Thats my point.

Freedom struggle while availing state benefits of host nation they are trying to gain freedom from.
Freedom struggle while trying to switch between innocent youth and mujahid modes so as to not be shot down.

Some freedom fighters indeed.

That's my point.

 

[rohit.gr77]

You are trying to link ISIS to indigenous freedom struggle of the Kashmiris and make them look like terrorists. Kashmiris are a brave breed. they've been rejecting Indian rule for 68 years now. Thats my point.

Going by your logic, then even the indigenous freedom fighters of Balochistan are not terrorists. Do you agree with that? Even they have been rejecting Pakistani rule for 68 years. What do you have to say about that?

 

[Srinivas_K]

You are trying to link ISIS to indigenous freedom struggle of the Kashmiris and make them look like terrorists. Kashmiris are a brave breed. they've been rejecting Indian rule for 68 years now. Thats my point.

1) When the mujahids came to conquer kashmir in 1948, Kashmiris supported Indian troops who came to rescue.

2) When Pakistani troops close to 30000 to 40000 invaded Kashmir dressed as civilians(operation Gibraltar), Kashmirs not only helped Indian troops but surrendered the weapons given to them by Pakistani troops to Indian army.

3) Until 1980's Kashmir is like any other region of India.

4) Even now Kashmiris are protesting for their rights not to join Pakistan.

5) Kashmir is not the region that came to earth on 1947, Kashmir is a part of India empires.

6) Religious doctrines may work in Pakistan for India we have different set of values and our view of the world is different. We do not care what Pakistan think or what religious doctrines they promote to create terror here. India is not weak to loose a state for the sake of vested interests of Pakistan disguised as religious doctrine.

7) You people are responsible for the blood shed that occurred in 1948, 1965, and Kashmir terror. It is the responsibility of Pakistan to stop these acts for the sake of Peace and prosperity of Kashmiris, India is only defending the region.

 

[Neo]

Give them the right to decide for themselves and you'll have your answer.
What are you afraid of?

 

[Srinivas_K]

Give them the right to decide for themselves and you'll have your answer.
What are you afraid of?

1) Who is Pakistan to say these words to India? Talking about "right to decide" can we talk about Balouchistan and other regions in Pakistan?

2) We are confident that Kashmiri demands will be met by Indian democracy. It is an ongoing process and India condemns external interference and their paid agents who are trying to disrupt the attempts of establishing peace and prosperity .

 

[Neo]

1) Who is Pakistan to say these words to India? Talking about "right to decide" can we talk about Balouchistan and other regions in Pakistan?

2) We are confident that Kashmiri demands will be met by Indian democracy. It is an ongoing process and India condemns external interference and their paid agents who are trying to disrupt the attempts of establishing peace and prosperity .

Kashmir is a disputed territory. You should be asking this question to yourself, who are you to decide their fate?

 

[thethinker]

Kashmir Plebiscite: Is it Still Relevant?

Indian Stand on Plebiscite

Maharaja Hati Singh legally signed the Instrument of Accession in October 1947 under which he acceded the State of Jammu and Kashmir to the Union of India. Therefore, Kashmir is integral part of India like any other state or territory. The following chief points are given in support of the Indian claim over Kashmir.

1. The Instrument of Accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to the Union of India was signed by Maharaja Hari Singh, erstwhile ruler, on 25 October 1947 and executed on 27 October 1947 between the ruler of Kashmir and the Governor General of India. This was a legal act and completely valid in terms of the Government of India Act (1935), Indian Independence Act (1947) and under international law. Hence the accession of the Jammu and Kashmir state was total and irrevocable.
2. The Constituent Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir had unanimously ratified the Instrument of Accession to India duly adopting a constitution for the state endorsing perpetual merger of Jammu and Kashmir with the Union of India. The Constituent assembly lawfully represented wish of Kashmiri people at that time.
3. United Nations Security Council Resolution 1172 (Resolution 47 is obsolete and a thing of past) accepts India's stand regarding outstanding issues between India and Pakistan and urges the need to resolve it through mutual dialogue without the need for a plebiscite.
4. The time has proved that the so-called two-nation theory was on wrong premises and has completely failed. Therefore, Kashmir, despite being a Muslim-majority state, is an integral part of the Secular and Democratic India.
5. All differences between India and Pakistan, including Kashmir, must be settled through bilateral negotiations as agreed to by the two countries under the Simla Agreement in July, 1972.

Pakistani Stand on Plebiscite

Pakistan does not accept the Instrument of Accession signed between the Maharaja of Kashmir and the Government of India in 1947 regarding the former as tyrant ruler not acceptable to the majority Muslim population of Kashmir. Pakistan in their propaganda accuses the Indian Armed Forces responsible for human rights violation and excesses causing death, rape etc. of numerous Kashmiris. Pakistan holds the following chief points in support of their claim over Kashmir while pressing for a plebiscite.

1. Two-nation theory on the basis of which Pakistan was partitioned from India holds good for Kashmir because it has a majority Muslim population.
2. The popular Kashmiri insurgency indicates the people of Kashmir do not wish to remain within India, meaning thereby that either Kashmir would want to stay with Pakistan or independent.
3. United Nations Security Council had passed a resolution for plebiscite in 1948 and India has constantly shown reluctance to implement the said resolution to determine the wishes of people of Kashmir.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Kashmir is a disputed territory. You should be asking this question to yourself, who are you to decide their fate?

Kashmir is a disputed territory for Pakistan not for India.

We got the region legitimately. It is the weakness of India in diplomacy that put India on the back foot. No one recognizes this region as a disputed region not even UN.

People around the world do have sympathies for Kashmiri protests and India is willing to sort out the issue through Indian Democracy.

 

[Neo]

Kashmir is a disputed territory for Pakistan not for India.

We got the region legitimately. It is the weakness of India in diplomacy that put India on the back foot. No one recognizes this region as a disputed region not even UN.

People around the world do have sympathies for Kashmiri protests and India is willing to sort out the issue through Indian Democracy.

How many countries have officially accepted IoC as integral part of India?

 

[Srinivas_K]

How many countries have officially accepted IoC as integral part of India?

Check out the maps !!



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[Neo]

Check out the maps !!



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Names please.....................

 

[Srinivas_K]

Names please.....................

check out the official maps, even the common wealth conference countries recognized the speaker from Kashmir !

 

[wickedone]

these guys should have been shot on the spot. then lets see if anyone else raises a flag. i love india but indians dont act until pushed a few times.

 

[rock127]

Balochistan is a CORE issue and needs to be solved asap.

Pak Terrorist Army is killing Baloch people(ALL MUSLIMS) since they want freedom from Pakistan.

Pakista is ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING the FREE Balochistan country.

We give full morel support to Baloch and their right for Self-Determination.

 

[Blackwater]

Pakistan flag was hoisted as per decades old tradition.
Don't care much about the rest.

Ur traditions is not decade old but 50000000000 yrs old , now wats the point ????[emoji12][emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]

 

[Blackwater]

Mr ajit doval lets fu.uk pakis once for all please Allah ke name pe[emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]

 

[anupamsurey]

They can raise any falg they want, all I care is that there's support for Pakistan, period.

and how much support is that in strength?
just below 0.5 pc of the entire population of state (that may be total population of a small village, elsewhere in India).
when there is a separatist rally in J&K less than 100 blokes join them there. (watch the videos of these rally and you will get it).
with this kind of enthusiasm for Pakistan in J&K they wont get anywhere. this is the reason India has been able to keep J&K within herself. if there was a mass opposition to India there then J&K would have been another bangladesh story (in favour of pakistan), but its not so (even when pakistan tried to grab it in previous four wars). get a life dude, just because your Pak army paid media wants to show it. kashmir doesnt support pakistan, just because pakistan pays for few geelanis, and geelanis in turn pay for these terrorist, cannot achieve separation of kashmir form India. after all sense of Nationality is not sold in market.

 

[Compersion]

Can we get at least two pictures of Indian flag being raised in giligit (by shias) and pok (anyone) ...

A single picture of either that will be everlasting.

But world also knows what pakistan does to people that do not agree to its occupation (Bangladesh one example) therefore it needs to be done with care hence the abbreviation