Pakistani Army confirms illegal execution of Swatis

Yusuf

GUARDIAN
Super Mod
Joined
Mar 24, 2009
Messages
24,324
Likes
11,757
Country flag
Thre was this taliban video about a girl being lashed which later as allegedly thought to be a fake. So news media will be a little circumspect at least the western one.. send it to India TV and they will play it whole day.
 

The Messiah

Bow Before Me!
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 25, 2010
Messages
10,809
Likes
4,619
Thre was this taliban video about a girl being lashed which later as allegedly thought to be a fake. So news media will be a little circumspect at least the western one.. send it to India TV and they will play it whole day.
of that there is no doubt :emot15:
 

EagleOne

Regular Member
Joined
May 10, 2010
Messages
886
Likes
87
cant say clearly that these guys are kids .
are they pakistani army?


P.s: since saw lot of video which are mislead
 
Last edited:

IBRIS

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
1,402
Likes
796
Country flag
Another one is available.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

dr0ne

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 30, 2010
Messages
32
Likes
0
@eagle one

Listen to their moans after they are shot. Clearly some of these are children.
 

pmaitra

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2009
Messages
33,262
Likes
19,594
Video of some Pashtun kids being shot point blank by the brave Pakistan army

[video=dailymotion;xexhf3]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xexhf3_massacre-by-fithy-napak-murtad-kafi_news[/video]
Excellent post.

This is exactly what the Pakistani Army did in East Pakistan.

Read the following book which documents many such brutalities:

Title: Year of the Vulture
Author: Amita Malik

It is also available on Amazon. I have a copy.
 

bhramos

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 21, 2009
Messages
25,625
Likes
37,233
Country flag
Pakistan: Extrajudicial Executions by Army in Swat
Military Abuses Undermine Fight Against Taliban


JULY 16, 2010


(New York) - The Pakistani government should immediately investigate reports of summary executions, torture, and mistreatment perpetrated during counterterrorism operations in the Swat valley, Human Rights Watch said today.

Since September 2009, when the Pakistani military re-established control over the valley, Human Rights Watch has received numerous credible reports of extrajudicial executions allegedly committed by soldiers operating in Swat or police acting at the behest of the military. Human Rights Watch has since February researched alleged human rights violations in Swat based on an initial list of 238 suspicious killings provided by local sources and the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. Human Rights Watch has corroborated about 50 of these cases. In no case examined by Human Rights Watch was a killing falsely reported, suggesting that the total number of killings is as high as or greater than those reported. The information for each case includes names or numbers of victims, place names, and dates. To date, the Pakistani military has not held any of the perpetrators accountable for these killings.

"The Pakistani military has yet to understand that a bullet in the back of the head is simply not the way to win hearts and minds in Swat," said Ali Dayan Hasan, senior South Asia researcher at Human Rights Watch. "Killing terrorism suspects and their relatives in cold blood is vicious, illegal, and constitutes an appallingly bad counterterrorism practice that just creates more enemies."

On March 28, 2010, for example, Farman Ali, a resident of Matta sub-district, surrendered to the 12th Punjab regiment of the Pakistan Army during a search operation in the Kokari Jambeel area of Swat. Witnesses told Human Rights Watch that two unidentified men were also taken into custody at the same time. The bullet-riddled bodies of the two unidentified men were later produced by the military authorities as those of Taliban fighters killed in a military "encounter" with Taliban fighters. Farman Ali remained in the custody of the 12th Punjab regiment, without access to family members.

In mid-May, local residents in Matta reported to Human Rights Watch that military authorities told them to "expect Farman's body soon." On May 26, his body was found dumped in a field with a gunshot wound to the head. Human Rights Watch research indicates that from March 28 until the day his body was found, Farman Ali was continuously in military custody.

"It beggars belief that Farman Ali was killed by anyone other than members of the 12th Punjab regiment given that he never left their custody," Hasan said. "Those responsible for ordering and carrying out Farman Ali's execution need to be held accountable."

Local residents also told Human Rights Watch that on February 21, the bodies of two wanted Taliban commanders, Mohammad Aalim (alias Mullah Banorey) and Shams ul Hadi (alias Mullah Shanko), were found in the Maidan sub-district along with the bodies of two men named Murad and Saleem. While the local residents agreed that the former were Taliban commanders, they said that Murad and Saleem had no connection or involvement whatsoever with the Taliban. Yet military commanders claimed at the time that all four men were killed in an "encounter."
These residents told Human Rights Watch that all four men had been rounded up four months earlier in a military raid in the Fatehpur sub-district.

"I knew Murad and Saleem personally," one resident said. "They were absolutely innocent. They had nothing to do with the Taliban. I saw them grow up."

The residents said all four victims had been transferred to an unknown military detention center upon arrest.

Another resident told Human Rights Watch: "On February 16, 2010, the army shot all four dead in the area of the Grid Station in the town. We heard the shots that killed these individuals. The corpses of Mullah Banorey and Mullah Shanko were tied behind military vehicles and dragged publicly in the areas of Char Bagh, Bagh Dheri, and Matta as warning. The people were encouraged to spit at and throw garbage on the bodies of the two dead Taliban commanders, who were feared and hated. But the entire local population knew that Saleem and Murad were innocent. Why did the army kill them?"

The resident said that the local population was afraid to raise the case with the authorities.

"The local people are very angry at their murder but dare not say anything for fear of the army," the resident said. "When the television shows these days that certain numbers of militants are killed during an ambush, this is not fact. We have seen so many people picked up from their houses by the army and then their dead bodies thrown in different areas."

The reported cases of alleged extrajudicial killings in Swat follow a similar pattern. In mid-January, 12 corpses, including that of a prominent Taliban leader, Abu Faraj, were found near the Swat River riddled with bullets and bearing torture marks.
The other dead are believed to include nine villagers who had earlier been picked up by the army and remain missing. The body of Ghani, an alleged Taliban supporter picked up and publicly beaten by the army in July 2009, was found in a field in Kuza Bandi on January 10 with one bullet wound in the head and three in the chest. On January 2, the body of "Humanyun" (an alias) was found dumped outside his house, showing visible torture marks and broken bones; the military had detained him and his brother on October 27 on their return to Swat. Humanyun's brother was released on December 29. He had been tortured, and both of his legs had been broken.

The army picked up Ayub Khan at his home in Lunday Kase, Mingora on November 23, badly beat him in front of his family, and took him away in a military vehicle. On December 28, local residents saying their dawn prayers heard a shot and found his body, covered in torture marks, in a nearby stream as an army vehicle drove away. Islam Khan was picked up in October 2009 from his house in Imam Dheri, Swat in an army raid. His body was found 15 days later near the Swat River with extensive torture marks and his hands and legs broken. Shortly after the body was recovered, a team of soldiers and police came to his house, told his family not to mention the incident or their house would be demolished, and took the body away.

"By abusing local people, the Pakistani military is perpetuating the lawlessness on which the Taliban thrives," Hasan said. "Real peace and security will remain elusive in Swat so long as the military neither follows nor seeks to establish the rule of law."

Human Rights Watch said that while reports of alleged summary executions linked to the military had declined in recent months, they had not ended. The military should investigate reported killings and send unequivocal orders down the chain of command that those responsible for such killings would be held accountable, Human Rights Watch said.

Human Rights Watch noted that since the military regained control of the Swat valley, there had been a marked improvement in the overall security situation. Public floggings and hangings perpetrated under Taliban control have largely ended. Local residents told Human Rights Watch that under military control, Taliban vigilante activities and tribunals have also largely ended.

Meanwhile, Taliban militants have continued to carry out suicide bombings and targeted killings, especially against police and civilians deemed to be army informants and members of local peace committees set up by the government. On July 15, at least five people were killed and nearly 50 wounded in a suicide bomb attack near a crowded bus stop in the main town of Mingora.

"By killing and abusing civilians, the Taliban are showing their desperation in the face of the Pakistani military's success," Hasan said.

The United States provides substantial military assistance to Pakistan, yet that support is conditioned on compliance with the Leahy Law. That law requires the US State Department to certify that no military unit receiving US aid is involved in gross human rights abuses, and when such abuses are found, they are to be thoroughly and properly investigated.

Human Rights Watch called upon the United States, the United Kingdom, and Pakistan's other military allies to urge Pakistani authorities to end abusive practices in Swat and to hold accountable all personnel, regardless of rank, responsible for serious human rights abuses. Human Rights Watch called upon the United States to review the possible responsibility of military units receiving US military aid for alleged abuses in Swat and to take appropriate action.

"Civilians already enduring Taliban abuses should not have their misery compounded by the military's behavior," Hasan said. "Pakistan's allies need to press the country's military to ease the suffering of the people of Swat, not exacerbate it."

Pakistan: Extrajudicial Executions by Army in Swat | Human Rights Watch
 

hit&run

United States of Hindu Empire
Mod
Joined
May 29, 2009
Messages
14,104
Likes
63,370
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Daredevil

On Vacation!
Super Mod
Joined
Apr 5, 2009
Messages
11,615
Likes
5,772
Now the video has reached to NYTimes stage. Internationally, this will expose the Pakistani Army's unprofessional and mercenary type behavior and human rights violations it has perpetrated.

Video Hints at Executions by Pakistanis -NYTimes

By JANE PERLEZ

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An Internet video showing men in Pakistani military uniforms executing six young men in civilian clothes has heightened concerns about unlawful killings by Pakistani soldiers supported by the United States, American officials said.

The authenticity of the five-and-a-half-minute video, which shows the killing of the six men — some whom appear to be teenagers, blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs — has not been formally verified by the American government. The Pakistani military said it was faked by militants.

But American officials, who did not want to be identified because of the explosive nature of the video, said it appeared to be credible, as did retired American military officers and intelligence analysts who have viewed it.

After viewing the graphic video on Wednesday, an administration official said: "There are things you can fake, and things you can't fake. You can't fake this."

The director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Leon E. Panetta, who was in Islamabad on Wednesday on a previously scheduled visit, was expected to raise the subject of the video with the chief of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and the head of the Pakistani spy agency, Gen. Shuja Ahmed Pasha, American officials said.

The video adds to reports under review at the State Department and the Pentagon that Pakistani Army units have summarily executed prisoners and civilians in areas where they have opened offensives against the Taliban, administration officials said.

The video appears to have been taken in the Swat Valley, where the Pakistani military opened a campaign last year to push back Taliban insurgents. The effort was widely praised by American officials and financed in large part by the United States.

The reports could have serious implications for relations between the militaries. American law requires that the United States cut off financing to units of foreign militaries that are found to have committed gross violations of human rights.

But never has that law been applied to so strategic a partner as Pakistan, whose military has received more than $10 billion in American support since 2001 for its cooperation in fighting militants from the Taliban and Al Qaeda based inside the country.

The State Department spokesman, Philip J. Crowley, called the images "horrifying." He said the American ambassador, Anne W. Patterson, had raised the issue with the Pakistani government and was awaiting a response. "We are determined to investigate it," he said.

The spokesman for the Pakistani Army, Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, dismissed the video as part of a propaganda campaign by jihadists to defame the Pakistani Army. "No Pakistan Army soldier or officer has been involved in activity of this sort," he said.

A senior Pakistani intelligence officer, who declined to be named, dismissed the video as a staged "drama."

The Pakistani military came under strong pressure from the United States to make the drive into the Swat region. Having since expanded operations to South Waziristan, the military has found itself in a counterinsurgency campaign in which it has struggled to maintain local support and weed out insurgents and their sympathizers from the population.

The video, apparently taken surreptitiously with a cellphone, shows six young men being lined up near an abandoned building surrounded by foliage. As the soldiers prepare to shoot, one soldier asks the commander, a heavily bearded man with the short hair typical of a military haircut: "One by one, or together?" He replies, "Together."

A burst of gunfire erupts. The young men crumple to the ground. Some, still alive and wounded, groan. Then a soldier approaches the heap of bodies, and fires rounds into each man at short range to finish the job.

The men doing the shooting wear Pakistani Army uniforms and appear to be using G-3 rifles, standard issue for the Pakistani Army and rarely used by insurgents, according to several Pakistanis who watched the video.

The soldiers also speak Urdu, the language of the Pakistani Army, and use the word "Sahib" when addressing their commander, a polite form for Mr., which is uncommon among the Taliban.


The question of extrajudicial killings is particularly sensitive for Pentagon officials, who have tried in visits to Pakistan and through increased financing to improve their often-tense relationship with the Pakistani Army.

But growing word of such incidents in recent months has led to an internal debate at the State Department and the Pentagon over whether the reports are credible enough to warrant cutting off funds to Pakistani Army units, American officials said.

Not least of the concerns is keeping the Pakistani Army as an ally. Pentagon officials, already frustrated at Pakistan's refusal to take on Taliban militants who cross into Afghanistan to fight American forces, fear that raising the question of human rights will sour the relationship.

"What if the Pakistanis walk away — is there any option?" was a question uppermost at the Pentagon, a senior administration official involved in the debate said.

Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and sponsor of the law that would require withholding money, said Wednesday that anyone who had seen the video would "be shocked."

If the video was found to be authentic, the law could be imposed, he said.

Currently, the United States spends about $2 billion a year on the Pakistani military, including funds specifically designated for antiterrorism operations, which the Pentagon has said it would like the Pakistanis to expand.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, raised the reports of extrajudicial killings with the head of the Pakistani Army, General Kayani, in meetings this year, a senior administration official said.

One unresolved question, the official said, was how seriously General Kayani took the killings, and whether he was willing to punish the soldiers involved.

Some reports, particularly from Waziristan, that the State Department was reviewing were increasingly specific and credible, the senior official said.

"There is a particular set of incidents that have been investigated with great accuracy, and, we believe, lead to a pattern," the official said.

The State Department briefed members of the Senate about the issue this summer, and was set to do so again next month, an indication of the rising concern on Capitol Hill, according to one Congressional staff member.

The episode in the video may be just the most glaring to surface. The Pakistani military is believed to have detained as many as 3,000 people in makeshift prisons in the region of its operations. Reluctant to turn them over to Pakistan's undependable courts or to grant them amnesty, the problem of what to do with the detainees has grown pressing.

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said in June that 282 extrajudicial killings by the army had taken place in the Swat region in the past year.

A Pakistani intelligence official, who did not want to be identified discussing the issue, said he had seen other such videos and heard reports of executions larger than the one in the video, which was posted on the Facebook page of a group that calls itself the Pashtuns' International Association.

Two retired Pakistani senior army officers said they believed that the video was credible.

"It's authentic," said Javed Hussain, a former Special Forces brigadier. "They are soldiers in Swat. The victims appear to be militants or their sympathizers." The executioners were infantry soldiers, he said. "It's shocking, not expected of a professional, disciplined force."

A retired lieutenant general, Talat Masood, also said the video seemed credible. "It will have a serious setback in the effort for winning the hearts and minds so crucial in this type of warfare," he said
.


A Pakistani employee of The New York Times contributed reporting.
 

Vulcan

New Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2010
Messages
9
Likes
0
This video is all over the media. Gen. petraus also has bought this issue with th paks and also the Human rights group are taking it seriously.But paks being paks are denying that they have anything to do with it.They are the only saintly genes left in the mankind.The purest of the pure.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Daredevil

On Vacation!
Super Mod
Joined
Apr 5, 2009
Messages
11,615
Likes
5,772
At the same time, Pakistani officials tried to contain the damage from a video that came to the attention of American officials in recent days showing the execution of six young men, bound and blindfolded, by Pakistani Army soldiers.

Responding to questions from American officials, Pakistani officials acknowledged Thursday that the video had not been faked, as they had first contended, an American official said, and that they had identified the soldiers and would take appropriate measures.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/world/asia/01peshawar.html?_r=1
 

Rage

DFI TEAM
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 23, 2009
Messages
5,419
Likes
1,001
I thought I heard 'em say the video was 'fake'.
 

SHASH2K2

New Member
Joined
May 10, 2010
Messages
5,711
Likes
730
Pakistan army chief orders inquiry into execution video

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- The head of Pakistan's army has ordered an inquiry into a video that showed the execution of blindfolded and bound civilians by men clad in army uniforms.

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said he would take "the strictest possible disciplinary action" if the shooters are found to be Pakistani soldiers, the military said Friday.

But he cautioned against a rush to judgment, saying that militants have, in some cases, disguised themselves as soldiers during attacks to "hide their identities, cause confusion and malign" the army, according to a statement from the military's Inter Services Public Relations department.

The video, which surfaced on YouTube last week, shows what looks like a unit of Pakistani soldiers lining up a group of men, wearing blindfolds and with their hands bound behind their backs.

At one point, a soldier approaches them and speaks briefly in Urdu.

Then the soldiers open fire with rifles.

As the five-minute video continues, the audio suggests some of the victims are still alive.

One soldier approaches the victims and shoots again..

CNN has not been able to verify whether the video is of an actual event, or when and where it was shot.

Retired Pakistani Army Lieutenant General Talat Masood said the video could be authentic -- judging from the uniforms, the weapons and the posture of those men in the army uniforms.

"Most probably we have to assume that there is some level of credibility and then go for it and then do a thorough investigation," he said last week.

Human rights groups have frequently accused Pakistani security forces of extrajudicial killings, especially in the military's anti-Taliban offensives in Swat and South Waziristan.

Pakistan's Human Rights Commission has said such killings are not condoned by the military leadership.

But the group's head said the military must crack down on anyone involved in human rights abuses, or risk losing support of people in areas formerly held by the Taliban.

"It can demolish the image of the armed forces who are appreciated by the people who were under siege by the terrorists for a long time," said Mehdi Hassan.

The Pentagon said it was aware of the video, but "it's an issue for the Pakistanis to both look into it and deal with."
 

ajtr

Tihar Jail
Banned
Joined
Oct 2, 2009
Messages
12,038
Likes
723
A conspiracy of silence




Asif Ezdi
The writer is a former member of the Pakistan Foreign Service.
In April of last year, private television networks in Pakistan repeatedly broadcast a two-minute video showing a burqa-clad young woman being flogged with a leather strap by a bearded man, believed to be a Taliban commander, while two other men held her down and a crowd of men looked on silently. The woman is heard screaming and begging for mercy throughout the flogging and at one point swears that she will not do "it" again. Her offence? No one knows exactly. The incident took place at Kabal in Swat, then under effective control of Taliban militants and was defended by their spokesman as appropriate under Islamic law.
This shocking act of savagery against a teenage girl sent a wave of outrage throughout the country and was strongly condemned by political leaders, human rights groups, the civil society and the media. Zardari ordered the arrest of the perpetrators and Gilani called for an immediate inquiry. The chief justice of Pakistan directed the Interior Secretary to bring the young woman before the court and formed an eight-judge panel in the Supreme Court to examine the case.
But nothing much came out of all the denunciations. No one was arrested or punished. Nevertheless, the distressing incident reignited public debate over the peace deal signed by the government with the Taliban last February, under which Islamic courts were to be set up in Swat. The failure of the peace deal led in May 2009 to the military operation against the Taliban in which they were driven out of the valley.
Fast-forward to September 2010. Another harrowing video of atrocities surfaced from Swat. This time the Taliban are the victims and the perpetrators are armed men wearing what appears to be the uniform of the Pakistani army. The five-minute video shows six young blindfolded men in civilian clothing, with their hands tied behind their backs, being led to a wooded area and lined up in a compound. A firing squad of at least six uniformed men then shoots them. They fall to the ground. There is agonised moaning. A voice is heard saying "finish them one by one." One armed man with a rifle then walks over to the dying men and shoots them again from a close range.
In its gruesomeness, the video is even more shocking than the one on the flogging of the young woman in Swat. Yet, the reaction in the country has been largely one of silence and indifference and, in some circles at least, even one of quiet approval. There has been no public condemnation or call for investigation from Zardari or Gilani. Other political leaders of all hues, parliament, champions of human rights and much of the civil society have also been mum for the most part. The reason is simple: many of them see the Taliban – rightly – as a class enemy who could one day rally the support of other have-nots and pose a threat to the hold of the ruling elite on wealth, privilege and power.
The media, with a few exceptions, has also joined this conspiracy of silence. While it gave extensive coverage to the flogging of a young woman by the Taliban, it has largely ignored the story on the arbitrary execution of suspected Taliban militants. By doing so, the media has also wittingly or unwittingly conceded that public criticism of the army remains a taboo.
This is not the first time during the army's operations in Swat and in FATA that allegations of abuse against Taliban militants have been made. Reports of extra-judicial killings, disappearances of suspects some of whom are later found dead, torture and mistreatment have been circulating ever since army action was launched. The video is probably only the tip of the iceberg. An earlier clip on the internet appeared to show soldiers beating two civilian men. An inquiry into the matter was promised but if it was indeed conducted, the results were not made public.
According to a report of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) released in May, 282 extra-judicial killings were committed in Swat after the military operation ended in July 2009, including 48 bodies found in a single day in October last year. Most of these killings are believed to be in revenge for Taliban attacks on military and police outposts. Besides, there have been arbitrary detentions without trial running into thousands and collective punishment against relatives of suspected Taliban militants in the form of forced evictions (ilaqa badari) and demolition of houses.
The reports of international human rights organisations are equally damning. According to Human Rights Watch, there is evidence of more than 200 summary executions of suspected Taliban sympathisers in Swat. Mullen told human rights activists in Washington last month that he believed this to be a conservative estimate and that the real number of deaths was "much higher". This is a very serious indictment, also of the HRCP for giving a low figure.
The army at first dismissed the video on the executions as "fake". An intelligence official said it was being investigated by "experts", but expressed scepticism about its authenticity. Since then, the army has promised action against the culprits if the video is found to be genuine. It seems that the threat of sanctions under the Leahy Amendment had a lot to do with this promise. This law forbids US military assistance to foreign armed forces suspected of committing, encouraging or tolerating human rights violations. Washington has since imposed sanctions under this law against around six units from the 12 Punjab infantry regiment and the Frontier Corps. At the same time, the US has "encouraged" Pakistan to improve its human rights training and said that Pakistan is taking steps in that direction. Both US and Pakistan have played down the issue in public.
Some Pakistanis have expressed outrage at these sanctions, pointing to the atrocities committed by the American military in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. This is perverse logic. If American soldiers have been guilty of crimes against people of other countries – and there is no doubt that they have been – that cannot in any way condone abuses by Pakistani forces against their own citizens. The Pakistan army must act as a disciplined force which remains within the law, howsoever grave the provocation. This is not going to be easy, especially given the impunity it has come to enjoy under a succession of military regimes.
A month ago, Kayani directed army commanders at all levels to be vigilant and follow the policy of zero tolerance for excesses against the people. He also announced the setting up of a board of inquiry headed by a major general to probe the executions shown in the video and promised the "strictest possible disciplinary action" against the perpetrators of abuse, if identified to be soldiers of the Pakistan army. These are nice words. The public has a right to know now what action has been taken since then to put them into practice. There must be no attempt at a cover-up or whitewash and no unnecessary delay and the results of the inquiry and disciplinary process must be made public.
Kayani would be well-advised to announce also that the policy of zero tolerance for abuse against the local population, including insurgents, would be enforced in Balochistan where an army operation was launched by Musharraf. Disappearances and extra-judicial killings have been fuelling the insurgency. The provincial government has expressed its helplessness and efforts of the judiciary to stem these abuses have been fruitless. Last month, Amnesty International called on Pakistan to investigate the alleged torture and killing of more than 40 political leaders and activists in the province over the past four months.
The federal government has other priorities, mainly saving Zardari from accountability, and has no time to address the deteriorating situation in the province. The pronouncements made by Rehman Malik on Balochistan have been an unmitigated disaster. In these circumstances, the army itself should make a beginning and start the badly needed healing process.
Email: [email protected]
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top