Pakistan will remain nuclear as long as India remains nuclear

[sayareakd]

UN with US as the lead country is going to take away all the Pakitani nukes.

 

[p2prada]

Campaign for Responsibility in Nuclear Trade: US – India Nuclear Timeline

A chronological listing of how India came into possession of nuclear badonkadonks.

 

[Blackwater]

@ farhaan

Nukes is a weapon of responsible and stable states. Pakistan who has 110 nukes but

no electricity

no water

no CNG

no railway

No economy surving on AIDs and loans

army surviving on daily wages

unlimited bomb blast

lawlessness

target killing

bhataa mafia

inflation

50% populated under poverty line

polio only found in Pakistan and Nigeria

more 50% than illiterate


A nation where you have all these problem ,nukes are not consider as asset but liability. it will be foolishness on your part if u think cat will not eat pigeon. 110 nukes will not save you from disintegration

 

[TrueSpirit]

Has any nation, once having obtained nuclear weapons, ever given them up?

South Africa, just before 1991 was on verge on going nuke (capability was there for quite some time & intent was also displayed).

But they capitulated under international pressure. Similar stories were afloat regarding few other nations but then, most decided otherwise.

 

[Alpha1]

The USSR could not sustain the arms race. If India were to seriously start one, Pak will not e able to keep pace.

Do you know how many will die of hunger if India starts an arms race?

Has any nation, once having obtained nuclear weapons, ever given them up?

South Africa!

India will remain nuclear as long world remains nuclear.

Now India precieves the whole world as it's enemy?

 

[Alpha1]

UN with US as the lead country is going to take away all the Pakitani nukes.

Dream On !
They havent till now!

 

[Yusuf]

Do you know how many will die of hunger if India starts an arms race?

South Africa!

Now India precieves the whole world as it's enemy?

Not too many more in India than who already do and Indian economic growth will make sure the number of hungry come down. But yes I can't say the same about Pak and I guess you guys also won't hungry as you are adept in eating grass. Unless off course India turns the water tap off and your grass also dried up

 

[bennedose]

About Pakistan's nuclear deterrence protecting Pakistan against India I am reminded of a parable

A man was lustful of a beautiful woman next door and tried to rape her. She beat him up so badly that he decided that he could not rape her directly. He then tried to win her by being a nuisance. Pinching her bottom, rubbing against her and the like. Not only did this have no effect on her the man got beaten up so many times that he forgot that he had tried to rape her and that it was he who was trying to get her. He begged for and got a cheap bamboo pole from China, painted in Korea and said "This will keep the woman from attacking me". He was hoping that she would attack him and that he could somehow be in contact with her.

The story goes on but the man is Terroristan - er Pakistan and the woman is India and the bamboo pole is Pakistan's detergent, I mean deterrent

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Has any neutral source ever confirmed pakistani nuclear program of successfully testing at least
A 10 kilotons weapon? North Korea may have a 2 kilotons weapon and pakistan in Western sources
May have a 5 kilotons weapon
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/pakistan/nuke/.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

The fact remains that the world's largest nuclear stockpile did not prevent Soviet Union's implosion. Pakistan does not realize that the immediate threat for Pakistan is internal.

Soviet Union spent 40 percent of their GDP on military/ defense infrastructure unsustainable
Pakistan defense is from the charity of nations like USA, Saudi Arabia, and china also
An unsustainable defense plan.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Has any nation, once having obtained nuclear weapons, ever given them up?

Officially for the record south Africa.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

A few years ago Pakistani leaders used to show off about how advanced the Pakistani space program was with SUPARI-CO. Not hearing much of that now. Wonder how many years it will take to find out that the nukes are also duds?

5 kilotons capability is not impressive maybe to iran's 1 kilotons and North Korea 2 kiloton
It maybe but to the rest of the world it is a joke. Pakistan fissile stockpile is calculated to
Be enough for 3-5 10 kilotons weapons at best but capability successfully tested is 5 kilotons
So 6-10 tactical nukes is pakistan total capability.see link I posted above.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Interesting piece of history to underscore the importance of Heavy Water.

[video=youtube_share;GIIHzpzBErM]http://youtu.be/GIIHzpzBErM[/video]

India is the largest heavy water / tritium producer in the world with the fastest production
Capability. I wondered what tritium stockpiles are?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

We would love to see Pakistan make nukes bcoz with each nuke they will have to spend ten times the cost of production in maintaining and safe guarding them. In the end they will collapse like USSR. We want that to happen. It is happening at even rapid pace. Pak does not have money to buy new weapons or to upgrade its conventional weapons. So it is making more nukes in the false hope that nukes will save them from India and they can continue doing what they want in India.
In May 1998, India and Pak did nuke tests. PA thought that now with demonstrated nuke ability they can do Kargil and India will not retaliate due to the nukes of PA.
What Happened? We hammered the hell out of them in 1999 Kargil war. Thr nukes cud not save them or subdue India in any manner.

Same happened in 2008, Indian Armed forces were ready to retaliate with full force but GOI backed out. PA must realise that while they have subverted thr constitution, Indian armed forces have always worked within the Indian constitutional framework and they are now getting increasingly frustrated with the civilian leadership of India.

Nuclear hostility and blackmail can be good premise for indus water treaty revocation.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

UN with US as the lead country is going to take away all the Pakitani nukes.

USA does not view pakistan as a true nuclear national AQ khan would not have been safe if this was the
Case. Pakistan also has limited delivery systems:
1) subsonic missiles with limited range all 1940.scud based desings
2)f16 where usa has most likely placed kill switches.

 

[sayareakd]

Dream On !
They havent till now!

true, but they have planned it.

 

[The Last Stand]

USA does not view pakistan as a true nuclear national AQ khan would not have been safe if this was the
Case. Pakistan also has limited delivery systems:
1) subsonic missiles with limited range all 1940.scud based desings
2)f16 where usa has most likely placed kill switches.

You forget the Dassault Mirage ROSE and JF-17 Block 2 *should* be able to deliver nukes. Not to mention their BM's.

Scud was 50's design. And it isn't similar in anyway to Pak missiles other than the fact that it is a missile.

 

[farhan_9909]

with the addition of tritium pak today is now capable of warheads with yield upto megatons

i dont consider anything below a megaton as a nuclear warhead.

Pak spends 2.5billions on nuclear program per year while India slightly less than 5billions
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[LETHALFORCE]

You forget the Dassault Mirage ROSE and JF-17 Block 2 *should* be able to deliver nukes. Not to mention their BM's.

Scud was 50's design. And it isn't similar in anyway to Pak missiles other than the fact that it is a missile.

SCUDS were developed by Russians in ww2 against Germans. All planes and missiles are easily
Detectable and tracked by radar. A plane carrying a nuclear weapon would have increased weight.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

with the addition of tritium pak today is now capable of warheads with yield upto megatons

i dont consider anything below a megaton as a nuclear warhead.

Pak spends 2.5billions on nuclear program per year while India slightly less than 5billions
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Pakistani's has 10 kilotons capability all fissiematerialin pakistan is estimated arrival 100 kilotons
Far from a 1 megaton weapon.