Pakistan warns US, India against covert operations

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    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Thursday warned the US and India against any further covert operation in Pakistani territory, saying this would lead to a "terrible catastrophe".

    Admitting that the US assault that killed Osama bin Laden did achieve "important results", foreign secretary Salman Bashir told the media: "This cannot be taken as a rule."

    "There should be no doubt that Pakistan has a capacity to ensure its own defence," he said.

    In an apparent reference to India, Bashir said: "Any other country that would ever act (similarly) on the assumption that it has the might ... will find it has made a basic miscalculation."

    He added: "We see a lot of bravado in our region... from the military, air force, which state that this can be repeated.

    "We feel that sort of misadventure or miscalculation will result in a catastrophe."

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    Pakistan Warns Against Sovereignty Violations

    PARIS — As Pakistan faced a growing chorus of questions about its avowed ignorance of Osama bin Laden’s presence on its soil, a senior official on Thursday warned against violations of his country’s sovereignty, a day after Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani said any intelligence failure about Bin Laden’s whereabouts was made by “the whole world, not Pakistan alone.”

    The latest remarks came four days after President Obama announced that Bin Laden had been killed in an American commando raid on a compound in Abbottabad, just 35 miles from the Pakistani capital — an event that prompted Western leaders, including senior officials in France and Britain, to say Pakistan had to explain why it said it had not been aware of the presence of the leader of Al Qaeda.

    At a news conference in Islamabad, Salman Bashir, Pakistan’s foreign secretary, complained about violations of Pakistan’s sovereignty and, without naming the United States, said, “this matter of sovereignty and violation of sovereignty raises certain legal and moral questions that fall in the domain of the United Nations.”

    He added, “I believe that everybody concerned ought to be mindful of their international obligations.”

    Mr. Bashir also cautioned against what he termed future violations of Pakistan’s sovereignty.

    “We feel that that sort of misadventure or miscalculation would result in a terrible catastrophe,” he said. “There should be no doubt Pakistan has adequate capacity to ensure its own defense.”

    He said the Pakistani military had not been warned in advance that the American raid on Bin Laden’s compound was going to take place.

    “The fact is that the Pakistan armed forces were not in the know,” he said. “They did what was required. The air force was scrambled.”

    Mr. Bashir was speaking a day after Mr. Gilani, the prime minister, met with the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, on Wednesday during a long-scheduled visit here. He was asked why Pakistan had not known of Bin Laden’s presence and said, “There is an intelligence failure of the whole world, not just Pakistan alone.”

    He said Pakistan shared intelligence “with the rest of the world, including the United States,” so if there were what he called lapses in Pakistan “that means lapses from the whole world.”

    After the meeting, Mr. Gilani that he did not believe the United States Congress would show its displeasure with Pakistan by cutting aid to his nuclear-armed nation and he said the West would continue to support Pakistan as a “responsible nation.”

    “We are working together” against terrorism, he said.

    Mr. Gilani’s trip to France is supposed to encourage French investment in his country, despite the momentous events that culminated in Bin Laden’s killing.

    “Today, through your forum, I want to convince the world that instead of giving negative messages for Pakistan, rather we should send positive messages to Pakistan,” Mr. Gilani told a French employers’ group, according to Reuters. “We should have positive messages because no one, no single nation, alone can fight terrorism. Pakistan is a part of the solution and not a part of the problem.”

    In recent days both the British prime minister, David Cameron, and the French foreign minister, Alain Juppé, have raised questions about how Bin Laden could have lived undetected so close to the Pakistani capital while he was the most wanted man in the United States — supposedly Pakistan’s ally in combating terrorism.

    But both European leaders concluded that, as Mr. Juppé put it, Pakistan is such an important player in the region, specifically in determining the outcome of the war in Afghanistan, that “we have every interest in keeping good relations with it.”

    “There will be no solution in Afghanistan, no long-lasting political solution, if we do not manage to work in trust with Pakistan,” Mr. Juppé said.

    As Mr. Gilani visited Paris, Mr. Bashir, the foreign secretary, told the BBC that “Pakistan has played a pivotal role” in the hunt for Bin Laden and that it had even drawn the attention of American intelligence agencies in 2009 to suspicions about the compound where Bin Laden was killed.

    But he stopped shorting of saying Pakistan’s own intelligence agents had known Bin Laden was living there, arguing that it took the superior resources of the Central Intelligence Agency to make that discovery.

    In a statement on Tuesday, the Pakistani Foreign Ministry said the “intelligence flow indicating some foreigners in the surroundings of Abbottabad, continued till mid-April 2011.”

    “It is important to highlight that taking advantage of much superior technological assets, the C.I.A. exploited the intelligence leads given by us to identify and reach Osama bin Laden,” the statement said.

    Pakistani officials have been angered by a widely reported assertion by the C.I.A. director, Leon E. Panetta, that Washington did not share advance knowledge of the raid with Pakistan because it might have leaked, allowing Bin Laden to escape.

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    /\/\/\ One more useless rhetoric which means 'Tell us when you plan to capture Al-Zawahiri, so that we can plan his escape beforehand'.
     
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    Am I supposed to laugh or cry at this especially after the incident that happened three days ago ?
     
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    This belongs in the thread of "Why cant India do the same to Dawood Ibharim"

    The Pakistan PM is right that there will be a tragedy our airforce is week now and our missile and nuclear weapons are untested. We will have to beef up before we can consider doing any such thing against Pakistan.
     
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    Barking after the house has been robbed , but this speech was planned well before you dont need a meeting for this , aimed at the domestic audience , well done
     
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    With regards to India, I do not think Indian Armed Forces have the necessary capability to accomplish such a task right now without the act blowing into a hot conflict. Remember we are still a 3rd world military, even if our conventional strength is much much more than Pakistan, and per se that of China. After 2020, I believe so we can, if military modernization does not go off track.

    I agree, that drawing an Indian angle would pacify the normal Pakistanis, who are caught up in a web of lies and deceit by their own Civilian Govt, ISI and PA.
     
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    Pakistan's threats are not taken seriously by anybody except Indian leadership. So, the threats are directed towards Indian leaders...

    The domestic populace of Pakistan must be stunned to see that Pakistan Army has backstabbed Osama...no words are going to smooth over this fact...
     
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    LOL hahahhahahahha what incompetent and shameless cowards these beggar pakistanis are? GHQ bombed by Taliban, Osama Killed right under their Nose in a full-fledged military operation, Drones bombing them daily, 1971 Surrender, loses in all wars....and they Beg and Oink at the same time......Funny Delusional Failed state pakisatanis, they have no shame leave alone sovereignty :D
     
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    Pakistani should not overestimate its power. Any catastrophe in this region will only fall on Pakistan not anyone else.
     
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    Sala man Bashir should treat his constipation by using some manual procedure before barking against India.
     
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    Will enema help his condition?
     
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    When Osama's ilk come after these hifi idiots, these types will be first to beg India to act like 'Big Brother' and allow them refuge. When that day comes(if Salman is lucky and does not meet his violent end abruptly), that day we can give him a fitting reply in refined english. We can also remind him that his requests are outdated and needs to change his mindset.
     
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    The pukes are in some serious shit after this incident this will drastically change the security situation for the pukes on the groung and the PA.All the treaties with various Taliban groups have been nullified and they are saying now their first target is Pukees
     
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    This warning is a joke 7 years or drone attacks and now USA coming deep in Pakistan and getting Osama (with help of Pakaistan) what can pakistan
    do about it ???nothing we will send terror, we will send dirty bomb, we will be better friends with China waaaah!!!!!!!!!!!what a joke of a nation
     
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    Obama reserves right to act again in Pakistan
    UNITED STATES - 4 MAY 2011

    WASHINGTON – The White House said Wednesday that US President Barack Obama reserves the right to act again against top terror suspects inside Pakistan, following the raid which killed Osama bin Laden.

    Obama's spokesman Jay Carney was asked whether the president would be prepared to target fugitives again if they were on Pakistani soil, despite Islamabad's complaints the bin Laden raid was unauthorized and unilateral.

    "He made very clear during the campaign that that was his view. He was criticized for it," Carney said.

    "He maintained that that was his view and, by the actions he has taken as president, feels that it was the right approach and continues to feel that way," he said.

    During the 2008 presidential campaign, then-senator Obama said that he would order action against bin Laden or other senior Al-Qaeda leaders inside Pakistan if the country's leadership "is unable or unwilling to act."

    Senator John McCain, the Republican candidate for president, accused Obama of effectively threatening an allied nation and said that if a target came into view, "you work with the Pakistani government."

    US officials have said that they gave no prior notice to Pakistan before Sunday's daring raid, in which special forces killed the world's most wanted man at a mansion near the country's top military academy in Abbottabad.

    CIA director Leon Panetta said that the United States chose not to alert Pakistan of the operation on its soil for fear that officials may have alerted the Al-Qaeda chief.

    Pakistan has been on the defensive since Sunday's attack, with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani saying that the United States and other countries shared the blame for not finding bin Laden sooner.

    The United States has an uneasy partnership with Pakistan, which supported Afghanistan's hardline Taliban regime until the September 11, 2001 attacks by Al-Qaeda.

    Pakistan has often voiced anger at US operations against Al-Qaeda targets on its soil, particularly strikes with unmanned drones which the government says make a mockery of its sovereignty.

    The United States carried out more than 100 drone strikes in Pakistan last year, killing more than 670 people, according to an AFP tally.



    Source: AFP
     
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    This is the quote of the day.
    • Pak's decision to take Kashmir by force
    • Two wars against India
    • Atrocities against Bengalis in Bangladesh
    • Waging Kargil conflict
    • 26/11
    Indeed, we see a lot of bravado in our region.
     

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