Pakistan: The demon the West created

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  1. ajtr

    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    Pakistan: The demon the West created


    August is a month that brings both joy and grief to the 1.3 billion people of the Indian subcontinent. Joy, as we celebrate the end of nearly 200 years of British colonial rule in 1947, and sorrow as we remember the one million who were slaughtered unnecessarily in a genocidal frenzy of religious hatred.

    Punjab, my ancestral homeland, was sliced in two by the departing British to create the new state of Pakistan. In a few short months, the entire population of Punjab’s indigenous Sikhs and Hindus in Pakistan was either slaughtered or driven out by raging mobs of Muslim fanatics. On the other side of the border, there was more bloodshed.

    The question often asked is, who penned the partition of India? Who was responsible for carving out Pakistan, a country that seems to have an insatiable appetite for bloodshed, and that has been responsible for, or associated with, more acts of jihadi terrorism then any other country on earth?

    From Khalid Sheikh Mohammad’s 9/11 plans to the recent recruitment of jihadis in Burma; from the Toronto 18 to the London 7/7 bombings, fingerprints of Pakistan-based jihadi groups and ideologies are ubiquitous.

    Conventional wisdom and traditional scholarship dictates, Pakistan came about as a result of Muslim grievances and fear of a Hindu-majority rule in post British India. Mohammad Ali Jinnah and the All India Muslim League are given credit for tapping into this sense of victimhood that still drives much of Islamist anger around the world.

    However, there is more to it than meets the eye. On May 5, 1945, the very day Germany surrendered, Prime Minister Churchill ordered an appraisal of “the long-term policy required to safeguard the strategic interests of the British Empire in India and the Indian Ocean.” Two weeks later Churchill received the top-secret report that, among other proposals, mentioned the necessity of British presence in Northwest India (today’s Pakistan) “from which British air power could threaten Soviet military installations.” When this was brought to the attention of Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, India’s Prime Minister and the Congress, they made it clear they would not accept British bases on Indian soil. On the other hand, Muslim League leader Jinnah was amenable to such an idea.

    Two months later, Churchill was shockingly defeated by the Labour Party in the election, leaving the task of creating Pakistan for the sake of Western military strategic needs to the socialists.

    By June 1947, the decision to amputate India was announced in London. It was left to British foreign secretary Ernst Bevin to explain to his party activists why London would seek to destroy what it had built over 100 years as the “Jewel of the British Crown.” Defending the decision that would devastate the lives of millions for decades, Bevin told delegates at a Labour Party Conference that the division of India was necessary because it “would help to consolidate Britain in the Middle East.” It’s no coincidence that within a few years, the U.S. would establish an air base in Pakistan to launch its high altitude U2 spy aircraft until one day in 1960 when a U2 was shot down over Russia and Gary Powers was captured.

    Thus came the great divide on August 14-15, 1947. After partition, the UK handed over the baton to the US ,who invested heavily into Pakistan becoming a frontline anti-communist military state. Today, the USSR is dead, but Pakistan is alive and has become America’s demon; one that successive U.S. administrations cannot put back into the bottle.

    My next book, “Pakistan: The Demon America Created” dwells in detail the tragic division of India and the monster of Islamism that morphed out of the Cold War and now haunts and hunts its own maker.
     
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  3. Agnostic Muslim

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    My response to the author on his site:

    I don't really see where you established any connection between a British strategic goal of having access to Soviet territory and Jinnah and the AIML's pursuit of a separate State comprising the Muslim majority areas of the subcontinent.

    You are correct in arguing that the West, the US in particular, played a significant role in creating the monster of Islamic extremism we see today, especially in Pakistan, and let us hope that the US and its extremist and paranoid Saudi ally do not repeat history through their support of terrorists in Syria, in pursuit of yet more shortsighted 'strategic goals'.
     
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    His thinking might have come from the extending British great game after ww2 to keep soviets reaching the indian ocean and middle east and for that west needed a pliant state in subcontinent.And pakistan turned out to be one.

    unless country's ruler become pliant and willing none can force the country to follow the path devised by outside powers.Pakistan was equal and willing partner in islamic extremism experiment with usa and saudis.In a sense it became a willing laboratory of islamic extremism.
     
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    The History is indeed repeating itself in Syria and Egypt.
     
  6. Bhadra

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    Hmm...

    If that is your article, then start tracing the origins of India Pakistan divide from the aftermath of Mutiny and basically from partition of Bengal .. If they wanted Northern areas and West then why East Pakistan? Why the idea of Princely state of Hyderabad ?

    Are you looking at today's Pakistan or 1947 Pakistan ?
     
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  7. Agnostic Muslim

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    The creation of Pakistan might have ended up serving some kind of strategic purpose of having access to Soviet territory, but what I am questioning is that implication made by the author that Jinnah and the AIML were knowing participants in this goal.

    I would agree with the argument that the British might have become more sympathetic to Jinnah and AIML's cause because of their own strategic goals, but I cannot agree, without more evidence, with the claim that Jinnah and the AIML were willing participants in this British goal.
    I did not suggest that Pakistan was not a willing and equal partner, it was, but what I am suggesting is that the US and Saudi role was a significant one, and it is arguable whether Pakistan would have gone as far as it did without US and Saudi military and financial backing.
     
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    I'd like to think of this more as the legacy that a small insignificant nation creates in its short lived existence. I don't see Pakistan existing as a single entity for more than another decade or so. During its short history, it would have fcked with literally every country in the world in the name of jihad.

    History will probably view Pakistan as the most vile entity that existed in this era. The septic pit of the late 20th and early 21st century.
     
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    Well, the Great Game is not a fiction and The British had started executing that since their Frontier wars days. It was bound to get accentuared pre and post cold war.

    Oil had become very essential currency to world power by the end of WWII. It was necessary for the British and the Americans to protect their middle Eastern oil fields and prevent Russian ingress Southwards.

    For that they created Pakistan as a base.
     
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    I don't think so - these kinds of predictions have been made several times in the past as well.

    Even now, with internal strife and the economy arguably at its worst point in history, Pakistan is not facing the kind of internal fissures that wracked the Balkans, for example.
     
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    You are taking it only from Afghan jehad point of view. The plaint GoP was there since Pakistan's inception. And they have been receiving foreign Aid since 1950. Whichever way the ebb of politics would have taken, rulers of Pakistan never had any choice to take an independent route. And after creation of Pakistan, MAJ was more than willing to host American interests on Pakistani soil which is quite evident from the interviews he gave.

    And other than a handful of top League leaders, I don't think most of the Party member had any realistic inkling of foreign or finance policy of the new state back in 46-47.
     
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    That is because the powers that be are interested in keeping Pakistan non - balkanised .
     
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    Sorry to burst your bubbles but pakistan will not go down.Its here to stay.
     
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  14. Agnostic Muslim

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    So in essence you refuted the argument that Pakistan is an 'artificial State' since, as you said above, external intervention is probably the only way to destabilize Pakistan to the point that it balkanizes.
     
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    Indeed, it will stay like a demon created by west.
     
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    pak wasnt created by the anglo-saxons but they took short-term advantage of it's "reality " .- Pak was created by invading jihadists from the west, centuries before the first european even arrived in asia - the anglo-saxon's short-term advantage now seems both to be back-firing and rapidly running out of time .
     
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  17. Jim Street

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    What you guys are saying is Pakistan as a failed state and going to be divided. They are not going to be divided soon. If things go really bad, China won't allow it. For China, Pakistan means a lot and that's why West don't want stable Pakistan as they want to indirectly affect China Pakistan is their shortest and safe access .to Gulf and Africa . in latter China has already made a huge investment. If Pakistan gets dysfunctional, China's connection to these part of the world will remain IOR. which will always be in control of India and US Navies.

    US and west don't care about Pakistan as long as their efforts to deny China access to many parts of the world. If Pakistan breaks up its ties with China. they will again become favorites of US and west. This what US want in Afghanistan, avoiding China getting its rich natural resources.

    The entire game is about natural resources which China needs for its economic growth to surpass US.
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    The question is would you rather not have pakistan self destruct and emerge afresh than live like you are?
     
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    Every sinking man says so...
     
  20. Bangalorean

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    This is a good question. So Agnostic_Muslim and ajtr - why wouldn't you like to emerge afresh? Have West Punjab, Balochistan, Pakhtunkhwa, Sindh... things will be much more peaceful, and each member nation will develop and grow to its potential without being held back by the others.

    I think that is the way forward. :thumb:
     
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    I would rather have the whole indian subcontinent self-destruct and reborn from its ashes like phoenix.
     

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