Pakistan still global jihad hub

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  1. Daredevil

    Daredevil On Vacation! Administrator

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    Pakistan is still a major destination for radicalised Muslims bent on a life of jihad, despite hundreds of US drone strikes, the death of Osama bin Laden and the fracturing of Al-Qaeda.

    New battlegrounds have sprung up in Africa and the Middle East, but the number of foreign recruits smuggled into the northwestern tribal belt is increasing and they come from more diverse countries.

    Since the 1980s “jihad” to expel Soviet troops from Afghanistan, Muslim fighters from all over the world have lived and trained on the Afghan-Pakistan border, moulded into Al-Qaeda and a host of spin-off militant networks.

    After US-led forces in late 2001 evicted the Taliban in Kabul for sheltering Al-Qaeda, Afghan Taliban fled across the border into Pakistan.

    But Washington and Nato will end their combat mission in Afghanistan next year and these days the Taliban say their foreign allies are drawn to other conflicts, despite their support networks in a region outside direct government control.

    “Al-Qaeda is shifting its focus to Syria, Libya, Iraq or Mali,” one member of the Afghan Taliban told AFP on condition of anonymity in northwest Pakistan.

    Local officials estimate the number of Arab fighters has fallen by more than a half or two thirds in the last 10 years, to below 1,000.

    In the last two years, some Al-Qaeda Arabs, particularly Libyans and Syrians, left to take part in the civil war in Syria and the violent uprising that overthrew Libya’s dictator Muammar Qadhafi in 2011.

    Others migrated to Iraq in 2003, and others to Somalia and Yemen.

    But Saifullah Khan Mehsud, executive director of the Fata Research Center, a think-tank focused on the tribal belt, says uprisings in the Middle East have had a minimal effect on the Arab presence in Pakistan.

    “Arab fighters are not leaving in big numbers,” he told AFP. “They have been there for 30 years and it continues,” he added.

    The number of fighters from other countries is also rising, say witnesses in Miramshah, the main town of North Waziristan — the district with the largest concentration of Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters.

    “The overall number of foreign jihadis has increased in the last two years. Every week we see new faces,” says one regular visitor.

    There could be around 2,000 to 3,500 foreign fighters in the border areas from around 30 different countries. During the 1980s, the number was also estimated to have been several thousand.

    More nationalities, same problems

    Most of the current crop are Turkmens and Uzbeks, numbering between 1,000 and 3,000 fighters according to local officials, who have fled authoritarian secular regimes in their home countries to set up their own groups.

    The Islamic Jihad Union, which splintered from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, is based in Pakistan’s border areas. It is committed to toppling the government in Uzbekistan, and fights alongside insurgents in Afghanistan.

    It has also plotted an attack in Germany, which was foiled.

    US officials say covert drone strikes have played a huge role in destroying training camps and disrupting Al-Qaeda in Pakistan.

    According to the London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism, 362 US drone strikes have been reported in Pakistan since 2004 — 310 of them since US President Barack Obama took office in 2009.

    Although North Waziristan locals say the strikes kill more Taliban than Al-Qaeda operatives, they have condemned foreign fighters to a life underground.

    “They are low profile, they dress like locals, they avoid big meetings and above all they move all the time,” a local journalist told AFP.

    Mehsud says that foreigners are coming from a more diverse number of countries than in years past.

    “A few months ago, we even welcomed some (two or three) people from Fiji for the first time!” says the Taliban member who spoke with AFP.

    “There are more nationalities because they face the same problems. They tell us that they feel left aside by capitalism and discriminated by unfair laws, like the Swiss one on minarets or the French one on hijabs,” he adds.

    Local and Western officials say the number of Western militants have fallen to dozens compared to the several hundreds of a few years ago.

    A Canadian, who uses the name Mohammad Ibrahim, told AFP that he had been in Pakistan for three years but was now preparing to leave to wage jihad at home.

    “Foreigners are now afraid to come to Pakistan because of the drone strikes,” he says, putting the number of his compatriots at 14, compared to “60 to 85 three years ago”.

    A mechanical engineer by training, he says he works in “technical and logistic affairs” but does not elaborate further.

    “I often met British, Spanish, Italians, Algerians and Germans. But now…our movements have been limited because of the drone strikes,” he says.

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    Pakistan cannot shut down its jihad factory. The state or the army is not powerful enough to do so.

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    Are you implying that raping women and waging jihad are both similar crimes ?

    Are you implying that sexual deviance is same add following Islam ?



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    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

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    If it is animals then you are the top-dogs(pun unintended)
     
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    Apollyon Führer Senior Member

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    "rape category", what else can you expect from a madarsa educated :pig:
    I am assuming you meant "number of rape cases", then no other country comes even close to :pig:tanis. You people would rape yourself if it was possible as you only need is a hole and a pole apart from camel, dogs, young boys, your sisters, etc., etc., .!
     
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    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    you can, if ur media can reach all parts of Pakistan and report:cool2::cool2::cool2:
     
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    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

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    i can only wish we had a blind patriotic media like you
    i wish we had a party.a similar to shiv sena that can directly interfere into the govt establishment and ban everything with india

    in pakistan media even report when a mosquito is killed....
     
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    gokussj9 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Can this effing m**fi**ing piece of sh*t piglet be banned?
    Ages of inbreeding has made him a perfect retard.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Add "Brainwashing" and it makes a perfect definition of his/her type of Pakis ::lol
     
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    This mofo adds people to his ignore list who slam his shit*y ass and then continues spewing shit.
    What's the point of allowing a piglet like him on the forum who is making this forum a mini
     
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    The piglet has successfully hijacked the thread.
    Are we going to allow him to ruin all other threads as well ?
     
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    Blackwater Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    only if mosquito is in Lahore or Karachi. they cant report mosquitoes of FATA,North waziristan, Baluchistan, South waziristan because they cant reach there

    Don't worry you got parties like shiv sena in pakistan, only difference is they work as NGO's

    jamat-ul dawa

    lashker a-jhangvi

    lashker - toeba

    jammat-a-islami

    etc etc
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    When I first saw the title, it looked like, "Pakistan still global jihad club;" then I looked closely and realized it was "Pakistan still global jihad hub."
     
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    Mad Indian Proud Bigot Veteran Member Senior Member

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  16. sesha_maruthi27

    sesha_maruthi27 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Buddy they are very busy raping the deers and other animals in the zoo........

    So please do not disturb them.........:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
     
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    They have lost interest in humans and have moved towards animals..........
     
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    More of the same in DailyTimes editorial.

    Jihad and Pakistan

    Jihad and Pakistan seem to have become synonymous.

    We adopted the terminology not in its religious sense, but as a modus operandi to recruit innocent people, radicalize them and finally pit them against our self-defined enemies, be it Afghanistan or India. We used so-called jihad without thinking, with the result that today the monster is hanging like a spectre over our own heads. We are very much in the news as a state where jihadis from different countries come to get trained in the northern tribal belt and are then sent for spreading violence and terrorism across the world. It all started with the Afghan war, but then later we started training jihadis for the Kashmir cause. According to a survey, Pakistan’s northern areas even today are home to thousands of Arab and other jihadis. They are trained and dispatched to places like Syria, Libya, Somalia and Iraq. Initially it was Arabs who made up most of this grouping, but lately their number has fallen and they have been replaced by Uzbeks and other nationals. The banned outfit, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, along with its splinter groups, is also based in Pakistan. The movement is committed to toppling the government of Uzbekistan and has been fighting alongside the Afghan insurgents. The northern areas of Pakistan, especially Miranshah in North Waziristan (NW), are considered a safe haven for terrorists. Since Afghanistan has become a leading theatre in the war on terrorism, this area has become ever more productive for jihadis. With the induction of drone attacks, these mountainous areas with their uneven and difficult terrain that had always been advantageous for concealing the terrorists has been bombarded with the result that some of the most dangerous terrorists have been killed. Though drones have deterred some jihadis from coming to NW, still their presence has not dwindled significantly as they have adopted new strategies to avoid drone attacks.

    Pakistan has been under severe pressure from its western allies in the war of terror to wage war against the terrorists hiding in NW. But the task could not be taken up seriously on one excuse or the other. The negative fallout of these hideouts is now turning its ugly shadow on Pakistan. It is imperative for the government to create a political consensus so that a final and decisive blow is dealt to these dangerous elements. *

    Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
     
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    No wonder 95% of world terrorist either

    Born in pakistan

    Trained in pakistan
    Travelled to pakistan

    and

    found in pakistan
     
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