Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they slept!

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  1. bhramos

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    New Delhi: On the intervening night of August 5 and 6, five Indian soldiers were killed on the Line of Control (LoC) sparking off outrage across India, a furore in Parliament, and bloody skirmishes between the Indian and Pakistani armies that have claimed several lives since. CNN-IBN has exclusive detail on internal Army investigations, which says the soldiers on the ill-fated patrol were shot dead at point-blank range as they slept.
    As the soldiers slept, tired from a long patrol, they were unaware that death was closing in around them. The one man they left on guard took a break to relieve himself. He came back to find his comrades executed at point blank range, some with even three bullets through the head.
    Internal Army investigations into the lethal ambush that claimed the lives of five Indian soldiers earlier has pieced together the story of the cold-blooded killings that have set the Line of Control on fire.

    The ill-fated patrol left Cheeta post, near the Poonch village of Khari Karmara, meaning to familiarise newly-posted soldiers with the area. They stopped at Delta Post, a post half-way to the Army's main position at Begum. Five soldiers decided to get some sleep for the night, expecting no trouble in this normally incident-free area. Sambhaji Kute, the sole survivor, was on guard duty, but left to relieve himself with the trap closed.
    "If the infiltration is on low ebb in certain areas or certain times, then the troops tend to take it easy. Therefore, you need to exercise greater supervision and greater vigilance," said military expert Mandeep Bajwa.
    Experts say the return of relative peace in Kashmir may have led security personnel to be less careful than usual. Earlier this year, as a video shows, terrorists who killed eight soldiers moved about on a Srinagar street for several minutes, unchallenged after the killings.
    Army headquarters in New Delhi declined to respond to multiple requests for comment from CNN-IBN, saying only that an official investigation was on.
    Ever since 2008, soon after Parvez Ashfaq Kayani became Pakistan's Army chief, skirmishes have increased steadily. In January, following the beheading of two Indian soldiers, tensions reached a new level and now, there's fighting up and down the 740 kilometre Line of Control. It is reminiscent of the bad days before the 2003 ceasefire, when hundreds died each year in artillery fire. Now the soldiers and their families can only pray the worst isn't yet to come.

    Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they slept
     
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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    SO that guard did't hear the gunshots ,if he did then whey he did not challenge the intruders because as per reports he told the investigators that group of people with PAK army uniform attacked ,this means they were in visible range and he panicked at the situation and did't fire at all.
    I wonder the if patrol parties use NVG/thermal during there patrol ,generally when the party takes rest at some place they put some sort of early warning traps like tin cans tied with thread (local jugad) and in some posts they keep stray dogs as pets they are very good source of early warning .....
     
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    Time for the army to start a canine division with a thousand Doberman Pinschers who will on a mandate accompany each and every patrols.

    @Kunal Biswas @Ray do we already have any?
     
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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    Indian army already has Veterinary Corps ,they breed mules ,horses ,dogs for Defense forces
     
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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    I'd prefer rottweiler's.
     
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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    Rottweilers are good for taking down a man, but are low on stamina. But then you already have a gun to take down a man.

    In mountainous regions you need a breed that is agile and with high stamina, keen senses and reflexes.

    Rottweilers are better as attack dogs, Dobermans are better as all terrain guard dogs.

     
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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    When one is on patrol and that too an overnight patrol or LC, no one is that tired that one has to sleep.

    If they get so tired, then they are not physically fit and very poorly trained as also poorly motivated.

    And even if a 'guard' is to relive himself, he cannot quit the post and instead, wakes up another one to take his post.

    And sure sign of the lacklustre approach to a serious issue of professionalism.

    No excuse.

    A poor commentary on today's soldiering!

    More than losing sleep over modern and fancier gadgetry, it is time to look at the basics of soldiering.
     
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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    wow

    .......................................so brave

    paki cool..............................................................so witty

    .................applause

    .............................................pakistaniyat
     
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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    Gaddi kutte ! Mountain dogs the type you have in Himachal, a few together can take down big mountain cats.


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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    What you really need are Tibetan mastiffs:

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    Re: Pakistan Special Forces killed 5 Indian soldiers at LoC as they sl

    Holy Guacamole!

    That's a daemon dog from hell!

    Anyway, they don't take training well and are very strong willed and stubborn.

    Again, to take out the enemy, there are guns. Dogs are needed with stamina and agility as EW on the ground.

     

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