Pakistan: Shia Mosque Suicide Blast, 7 killed yet and 17 injured

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  1. rock127

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    7 killed, 17 injured as blast targets Rawalpindi Imambargah - thenews.com.pk
    Blast outside Imambargah in Rawalpindi kills five people – The Express Tribune

    Pakistan blast at Shia mosque kills 4

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    So much for religion of tolerance..
    Pakistan civilian Govt has to nuke itself if it is serious about killing all terrorists.
     
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    Oh teri! everyone was busy with France's situation to have noticed this.
     
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    Things getting back to normal again in Pakistan... :ranger:

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    MODS please move it to the Pakis killing pakis section.
     
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    @ladder
    These days nobody seems to care the events happening inside Pakistan, especially them blowing themselves up .. Its routine... :D
     
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    It should be a "Pakis killing Muslims" section.

    Blasts in Pakistan is so common that no one really care anymore... it becomes a news if no blast happen for some days.
     
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    Terror attack in Paris is just much more alluring for Western and consequently our media than yet another suicide attack in Pakiland. :rolleyes:

    I think even Sunanda murder case is more exciting for the media.

    Anyway, have these guys started blaming India yet?
     
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    Pakistan is the second largest shia populated country yet this peril!
     
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    Pakistan is also a country where Shiah Iran and Sunni/Wahabi KSA are fighting a proxy war supporting certain terrorist groups. Local mullahs are taking advantage of this proxy war for personal gains. So this communal violence is artificial, controlled by certain powers and our failed and incompetent political system is using this devide to bank votes. In the meantime a sunni muslim common man will have no problem drinking water from a shiah sabeel or visit a lungar in the holy month of Muharram to eat haleem or kheer and the Shiah commom man will eat from a sunni lungar on Eid Milad -ul-Nabih.

    The Shiah-Sunni devide therefor is a political problem rathar than a social issue.
     
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    That doesn't seem to be the case when one looks at internet comments by random Pakis.
     
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    Don't be mislead by the media, certainly not the internet. You want to understand the dynamics of a certain problem, then look for both pro and cons and see how the communities, in this case sunni and shiah have coexisted for more than a millenium. What is binding the majorty together versus the very small minority which is causing communal violence.
     
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    Coexistence for millennia is fine. The 21st century is not the same as all the hundreds of years preceding it. The situation is very different now, thanks to trans-national Islamism and militant Wahhabism being exported from Saudi Arabia.

    As recently as 20 years back, Indian Muslims living in some remote corner of UP or Bihar never knew about international Islamic issues like Chechnya, Palestine, etc. and they didn't even care. They had occasional fights and disputes with Hindus, but that was it - their worldview was limited to that.

    Today, we see Muslims in Tamilnadu flying the ISIS flag, Muslims from Mumbai going to fight alongside ISIS, protests against some American pastor who burnt the Quran, violent protests against the persecution of Rohangiyas in Burma, awards announced for the killers of European cartoonists, etc. etc. All the incidents I have mentioned here, have taken place in the last 1 year. Hell, in Madhya Pradesh in India, last week there was a massive Shia-Sunni clash, with several injured. It took the police 1 day to bring the situation under control.

    This was never the case before. Violent Wahhabism and trans-national Islamism are causing a lot of problems in societies worldwide. It doesn't matter if they coexisted for millennia or even since the dawn of the universe. Today things are different.
     
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    It hurts aint it?
    This is what happened in France..A small minority caused violence for the French way of life.
    Its also communal violence..between native French and Fanatics.
     
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    Your analysis is partly true but timeframe is not. Shia-Sunni devide was not a global problem till the first Gulf War broke out in1991 and international camps were drawn in Southern Iraq where both Iran and KSA started a proxy war. Internet became a mass communication media around the same time and yellow and sensational journalism took over. Until then the shia-sunni riots were restricted to the holy month of Muharram and that was it. Peace throught the year.

    Situation in the Sub Continent deteriorated after the US led WoT and the invasion of Afghanistan in 2002 which resulted in radicalisation of the population in the region. Armed militancy, terrorist attacks and riots became a new phenomena and spread rapidly from the lawless FATA to the rest of the Sub Continent due to failed pilicies and negligence. The media got politicalised and and the shia-sunni camps were drawn all over the country. And for a major part, the mass communcation and yellow/sensational jounalism is reponsible for the communal problems India is experiencing. India is now where Pakistan was twelve years ago and things are to get a lot worse if your govt fails to curb the trend of politicising the devide.

    Politics apart, the common shia-sunnis continue to coexist in the Sub Continent; there is more harmony than devide on personal level between the two groups. But as organised and represented communities, they clash because of the controlled environment I referred to earlier.
    And again, the sensational media is only making tgings worse.

    About your comments on India, Tamil Nadu and ISIS:
    Many people in India hate Pakistan as they see her as a source of terror in the country. Emotions run high evertime there's an incident. Same is the case with the approx. 180 Million muslims in India, only the source and enemy is not Pakistan but the militancy in the ME. KSA/Iran backed islamist groups are recruiting people thru electronic media in growing numbers.

    What a non-muslim does not understand is the sense of this false brotherhood between the muslims. We may fight with eachother all the time but we stand united against the socalled infidels or kafirs. This is the reason why ISIS is getting popularity in India. Your media is pro Israel but the common.man has access to international media and they are able to.make their own choices. But a small.part falls prey to the recruiters and joins the organisation.
     
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    While Sunni and Shi'a share a common reverence for the Qur'an, they were only briefly united as a one political-religious entity, during the reigns of the first caliphs Abu Bakr and ‘Umar.

    Coexistence? It is resorting to comforting platitudes rather than admitting that there was and is a irreconcilable problem. In that coexistence there has been strife, insecurity and the constant struggle for ascendancy as the sole inheritors of Islam.

    The dynamics is simple - SUNNI –SHIA TENSIONS ARE MORE ABOUT POLITICS, POWER AND PRIVILEGE THAN THEOLOGY.

    There is an inevitability and permanency about Sunni-Shia conflict. Anyone who knows anything of the Islamic sectarian conflict would not blame the media or the internet, but should look within and not carp with false platitudinous comforting words.

    If indeed the Shias have coexisted with the Sunnis, it has been due to the fact that the Shias lost early in the competition both for political power and for the allegiance of the majority of Muslims; they, the Shias retreated essentially to a politically quietist position, as advised by the sixth Shia Imam, Ja’afar Sadegh.

    The Shia have been made socially and economically disadvantaged in position in Sunni majority countries, or countries where Shias are a majority but the rulers are Sunni --as was the case in Iraq and now is in Bahrain -- and it has in recent decades contributed to the Shias’ sense of alienation and their quest for emancipation and legitimacy. The Shia revival movement in Lebanon, which began in the 1960s, under the leadership of Ayatullah Musa Sadr, is the best example of this Shia quest for equality and recognition.

    And as far as Pakistan is concerned, read MJ Akbar's Tinderbox.
     
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    Here it is from the horses mouth ie Pakistan as to Pakistan's Sectarian conflict.

    Let us not succumb to the platitudinous brouhaha that is being trotted out by those who are afraid to face a problem in the face and seek and hammer a solution.

    Pakistan is such a country that Jinnah, their Founder, who was a Shia and the world knows that, was declared to be a Sunni and all sorts of fables and fairy tales were manufactured to prove him so!

    Imagine, they could not let a dead man in peace over such a minor issue as to what is the man's sect.

    This mindless stupidity is lucidly brought out by another Pakistan's reputed source.
     
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    @Redhawk

    The videos from the Australian TV network that you posted in the other thread has the same whine, obfuscation and platitudes that you find @Neo peddling.

    Can anyone believe this codswallop?

    Yet, in the same breath, I will say there are many Indian Muslims who are sane and are very balanced.
     
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