Pakistan seeks railway engines from India

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    Pakistan Railway to get 50 engines from India on rent

    ISLAMABAD, Aug 12: Pakistan Railways is considering a proposal to get 50 locomotives on rent from India to help normalise its rail operation from Khyber to Karachi.

    Pakistan Railways is currently facing acute locomotive crisis as dozens of regular passenger trains on branch lines have been suspended while on main line, trains are delayed for almost 12 hours, stranding passengers on railway platforms and public areas.

    Hiring locomotives from India is subject to approval by the government, says Saeed Akhter, General Manager (operations) of Pakistan Railways while talking to Dawn. A comprehensive action plan was approved during a high-level meeting chaired by the Minister for Railways Ghulam Ahmad Bilour here on Thursday.

    An inquiry was recently made with the Indian Railways, and there was willingness on their part.

    Subject to approval of the federal government, Pakistan Railways would consider the Indian offer if it proves to be feasible.

    The situation has now improved following visit of Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar to New Delhi, and the situation is quite conducive now.

    However, Mr Akhtar said that Korean, Chinese and Czech Republic have also shown keenness to rent out locomotives to Pakistan Railways.

    “We will advertise and pursuing a transparent procedure whosoever gets the contract, the responsibility of maintenance of locomotives will be on supplier and Pakistan Railways will pay the rent on daily basis. Pakistan Railways will only provide the staff, he said.

    The marathon meeting was attended by senior officials handling technical and operational matters of railways.

    PR to get 50 engines from India on rent | Business | DAWN.COM
     
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  3. Payeng

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    Can the Pakistani government be able to digest an Indian Government product?

    Ahhh here comes the complete picture just a promotional article from the Dawn.

    When the is China why any other asi buyna ;)
     
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    They had a pretty bad experience with the Chinese locomotives they ordered. Infact, many of the problems of Pakistan Railways are due to the Chini locos

    The collapse of Pakistan Railways – The Express Tribune

     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    I hope it does not stop with just renting, we should connect right from Beijing to Islamabad and goods should flow freely, this would prevent inflation when we can get what goods we lack in our own nations!
     
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    okie they already tried some Chinese, unable to digest it and now the need some Indian food, .....welcome call if Indian Railway have them at their disposal.
     
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    Made in China....se to dhoka kha chuke ho...

    ab Made in India bhi try kar lo.....
     
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    Pakistan Railways mulls renting locos from India

    Pakistan Railways mulls renting locos from India

    MSN India
    From Rezaul H Laskar


    Islamabad, Aug 13 (PTI) The cash-strapped Pakistan Railways is mulling a proposal to rent 50 locomotives from India to help normalise its operation across the country following suspension of dozens of trains due to a lack of engines.

    Locomotives could be hired from India if the government approves the proposal, Saeed Akhtar, General Manager (operations) of Pakistan Railways, told the Dawn newspaper.

    Pakistan recently made an inquiry with Indian Railways about hiring locomotives and "there was willingness" on the part of the Indian authorities, the daily quoted its sources as saying.

    Subject to the approval of the federal government, Pakistan Railways would consider the move if it proves to be feasible, the report said.

    The situation between India and Pakistan has improved following Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar''s recent visit to New Delhi and the situation was conducive to a measure like hiring locomotives from the Indian Railways, the report added.

    Akhtar said China and the Czech Republic too had shown keenness to rent locomotives to the Pakistan Railways.

    "We will advertise and pursuing a transparent procedure, whosoever gets the contract, the responsibility of maintenance of locomotives will be on the supplier and Pakistan Railways will pay the rent on daily basis. Pakistan Railways will only provide the staff," Akhtar said.

    Pakistan Railways is currently facing an acute shortage of locomotive and this has resulted in dozens of passenger trains being suspended and others being delayed for up to 12 hours, leaving hundreds of passengers stranded across the country.

    A comprehensive action plan for restoring railway operations was approved during a high-level meeting chaired by Railways Minister Ghulam Ahmad Bilour on Thursday.

    Source: Pakistan Railways mulls renting locos from India -  
     
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    Are they running on broad gauge to rent Indian locos?
     
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    Yes, most of their railways is broad gauge (7,479 km) and the rest (312 km).

    Source: http://pakrail.com/ybook2.pdf
     
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    This is stupid from our side, if we allow this to happen. We should not help pakistanis in any sort of economic activity. If they earn money, they will use that to kill us only.
     
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    Chinese Railway is fairly competent organisation and the Locos that they sold to PR were supposed to std. Locos. It seems that thy ha decided that it was time to make a quick buck from Pakistan.

    If this is the kind of basic equipment that the Chinese are supplying to our neighbours than what are the quality levels of the arms and ammunitions being supplied.
     
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    Good observation.

    However, please keep in mind that Pakistanis have a habit of placing the blame on others. It was they who decided to procure Chinese locomotives of higher axle load. Secondly, they had the option of buying expensive and modern Chinese locomotives, which they did not. I am sure the Chinese are capable of making better locomotives. We do not know what the entire story is like, but reports do suggest that decision makers in Pakistan have deliberately taken decisions that they should not have.

    Other than that, they could procure locomotives from anywhere in the world. Heck, even Bangladesh has better brains to get locomotives from different sources, such as, but not limited to, Bombardier, DLW, etc.. Pakistan only had PRC to look for locomotives? Really?

    Of course if someone is willing to bend over and drop its drawers, why will the other person not take advantage? PRC did what they thought was best for them. Pak-Chini friendship my foot, PRC will screw anything and everything for their selfish ends.
     
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    Why are we renting it ? They should buy it I think that is better for India.
     
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    So the Pakistanis have no options?
     
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    renting is good to hear for pak people or govt, if they hear buying Indian means they will die..
    may be these engines will be observed by chini engg, to build better engines for third world countries...
     
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    pak govt can but pak people can not
     
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    To buy, where will the money come from???:becky::becky::becky::becky:
     
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    well a good dream but we know its never going to happen pakistan wont take any indian product and ultimately a chinese product is going to win this tenders

    but i have one question suppose india did won this tendre and IR supplied 50 engines to PR and god forbids if something worst happens between india-pakistan(as we know there is a cycle of it) would pakistan return us this engine safely or in one piece or they would refuse to return it

    And is PR is going to pay enough so that we (IR) would earn profit on rentting engines to them. i donot want waisting indian tax payers money by not earning profit on rentting engines to pakistan
     
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    IIRC , IR does not have spare 50 Locos to give to PR on rent. As it is IR has shortage of Locos, that is the reason why 2 more Manufacturing units have been planned and negotiations are on with GE/Bombardier , I think.
     
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    So what...? let the Pakistanis borrow.. We are not running a charity here in India.. We have got poor people to feed too.


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