Pakistan seeks bigger Saarc to counter India’s influence

[Indx TechStyle]

Pakistan seeks bigger Saarc to counter India’s influence

WASHINGTON: Pakistan is exploring the possibility of creating a greater South Asian economic alliance to counter India’s controlling hold on the eight-member South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (Saarc), diplomatic observers say.

A parliamentary delegation from Pakistan, which is now in New York, pitched this idea during its five-day visit to Washington last week.

“A greater South Asia is already emerging,” said Senator Mushahid Hussain Syed, in one of his interactions with the media. “This greater South Asia includes China, Iran and the neighbouring Central Asian republics.”

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He described the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor as the key economic route linking South Asia with Central Asia. The Gwadar port, he pointed out, would be the nearest warm water port, not only for China but also for the land-locked Central Asian states.

“We want India to join this arrangement as well,” said Mr Hussain, an offer Indians are unlikely to accept as they are comfortable with the advantage that Saarc provides them.

No, we will be honoured to join it. Just make sure that wr don't start lashing you even here what we have done on other platforms.:biggrin2:

Last month, India used its influence in Saarc to isolate Pakistan when it announced that it would not attend the regional group’s 19th summit, scheduled in Islamabad on Nov 15 and 16.

India cited Pakistan’s alleged involvement in the Sept 18 terrorist attack in Uri as the reason for its decision to boycott the summit. Pakistan strongly denies the Indian allegation and India has provided no evidence to support its claim so far. Yet three other Saarc nations — Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Bhutan — joined the boycott.

Editorial: Undermining Saarc

The boycott led to an indefinite postponement of the summit and exposed Pakistan’s isolation within the group where it once played a key role.

Among the eight Saarc nations, Afghanistan and Bangladesh are India’s strong allies while Bhutan, surrounded by India from all sides, is too small to resist any move from New Delhi.

The Maldives, Nepal and Sri Lanka have good ties with Pakistan, but they are not large enough to take on India.

Maldives is same as that of Bangladesh, a base for Indian Military. They prefer interests over Islamic brotherhood. Sri Lanka's new government is Indophillic. India is running more than 450 projects (mostly in Nepal) and SL.

“Apparently, the showdown forced Pakistan to conclude that in its present shape, Saarc will always be dominated by India. That’s why they are now talking about a greater South Asia,” said a senior diplomat while confirming reports that Pakistan is actively seeking a new regional arrangement.

“Pakistan hopes that this new arrangement will give it more room to manoeuvre when India tries to force a decision on it,” said another diplomat.

Diplomatic observers in Washington say that the proposed arrangement also suits China as it is also worried about India’s rapidly growing influence in the region. They argue that China can play an important role in persuading Central Asian republics and Iran to join the new arrangement.

But the observers warn that Saarc members will have little interest in supporting the idea. There is not much benefit for Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka in joining a land route far from their borders and Bangladesh and Sri Lanka have their own ports.

The member that is likely to get the most benefits from a greater South Asian alliance is Afghanistan, which is technically a land-locked Central Asian nation. Any trade route that links South and Central Asian regions is good for Afghanistan.

But observers believe that Afghanistan is too closely linked to India to join any arrangement that hurts India’s interests.

Afghanistan’s presence in Saarc, however, justifies Pakistan’s argument that Central Asian nations can be included in a greater South Asia.

Afghanistan applied for Saarc membership in 2006, generating an interesting debate on the definition of South Asian identity because Afghanistan is a Central Asian country.

Saarc member states imposed a stipulation for Afghanistan to hold general elections, which were held in late 2005, enabling the country to join the group as its eighth member in April 2007.

But, as a South Asian diplomat pointed out, even if a greater South Asia became reality, there’s no guarantee that its members would support Pakistan in its disputes with India.

“Many Central Asian states have strong ties with India and Iran too has problems with Pakistan,” the diplomat added.

@aditya10r @Akask kumar @indiatester @sorcerer

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I never knew that China was a South Asian Country. Pakis and their obsession with South Asia.
Roz ka naya drama hai,
First balance of power in region.
Then, nuclear free zone.
A regional arms race and mutually ensured destruction. Regional peace and now greater region.:biggrin2:
@Navnit Kundu @thethinker @raheel besharam

 

[sorcerer]

shows their ANAL isi s of t SAARC.
SAARC got scrapped becuse of terrorism..
what pakistan thinks is SAARC got scrapped because a FEW nations got controlled by India.

Well..bigger SAARC means more nations will isolate pakistan

 

[Nicky G]

Any forum where the Paki terror state enjoys an effective veto is bound to fail. Besides, all they want to do is ride Chini coattails, thus, they'll want their masters in any group. Chini themselves are big whiners and spoilers. Thus, any such group is doomed for failure.

Best we stay away and let the donkeys do their dance. We should have stayed away from SCO too - but atleast that had Russia.

 

[sorcerer]

Any forum where the Paki terror state enjoys an effective veto is bound to fail. Besides, all they want to do is ride Chini coattails, thus, they'll want their masters in any group. Chini themselves are big whiners and spoilers. Thus, any such group is doomed for failure.

Best we stay away and let the donkeys do their dance. We should have stayed away from SCO too - but atleast that had Russia.

pakistan cant get anything together...forget about getting common consensus between themselves in the first place before they talk to other nations.Then can only do RANDI with china.

They are doing it for the sake of "NEWS VALUE". They have lost face during the SAARC episode and they wanted to prove the Aam Admi of pakistan that they have better things in their "plan"

 

[Plan covert]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

 

[rockey 71]

Pakistan seeks bigger Saarc to counter India’s influence



Examine: How Pakistan should respond to a dangerous time


No, we will be honoured to join it. Just make sure that wr don't start lashing you even here what we have done on other platforms.:biggrin2:


Editorial: Undermining Saarc



Maldives is same as that of Bangladesh, a base for Indian Military. They prefer interests over Islamic brotherhood. Sri Lanka's new government is Indophillic. India is running more than 450 projects (mostly in Nepal) and SL.











@aditya10r @Akask kumar @indiatester @sorcerer

Indo-Pak bitterness aside, inclusion of Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Iran, Uzbekistan and Mauritius should make SAARC economically strong.

 

[raheel besharam]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

Your islamic shithole is already a colony of atheist china

 

[Mikesingh]

Greater South Asian Economic Alliance?

I sometimes wonder WTF these Paki brains are made of?

 

[captonjohn]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

So immature views you have. You make any group you want and include anyone you want, we don't care. But, you can never get Russia into your group. No one would like to join your alliance except China. India will never join a terrorist nation's any group. Forget about it.

 

[mayfair]

The syphilitic gonorrheal wh*re (with due respects to them for unintended insult) is looking for a new kotha.

I see that her dalaals are already out in force- overt and covert.

Mashaallah what a country!

 

[1971ftw]

Lol this is just pathetic instead of working to improve their relationships with the existing members they want to add their Arab friends from central Asia. They don't understand what South is.

 

[Just telling Truth]

So immature views you have. You make any group you want and include anyone you want, we don't care. But, you can never get Russia into your group. No one would like to join your alliance except China. India will never join a terrorist nation's any group. Forget about it.

Russia is not a problem, if China will then no doubt Russia will also join our new group, as Russia is looking for not just arms markets but also looking for substitutes in economic term, and this group is not merely based on small countries where India consider itself boss and rest of the small countries EXCLUDING us consider India master, but this new group of ours will also link to some Arab countries as they would also equally enjoy benefit of being working in with central Asian states. And, we don’t care about you as you don’t read that article carefully? Then read it again, as because this new group is formed basically to counter India SAARC and leave those members, while we moving ahead with better growth and stability towards the region to merging big partners and they working with us central Asia.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Won't you feel like cockroaches?
All countries you mentioned are bigger and more credible than Pakistan. Pakistan will again be used like toilet paper.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

SAARC is useless for India also and that's why India is already a member of a lot of bigger organizations like East Asia Summit, BRICS, SCO, G20 and soon APEC much bigger than your game changer.

Busy in making $300 billions frieght corridor projects and economic corridors through Russia China, along with air, water, ground ways with so many countries enough to dwarf CPEC. Though we won't jump on it like pakis calling it game changer.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Indo-Pak bitterness aside, inclusion of Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Iran, Uzbekistan and Mauritius should make SAARC economically strong.

We must also include Japan, China, Vietnam, Philippenes, Nigeria, South Africa.

In fact must even include Australia, Russia, European Union, United States, Brazil, Mexico, Canada.

Eventually SAARC (South Asian) can even replace UN.:biggrin2:

 

[Anirbann Datta]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

ARE you screwed up in your mind!!!!! you are naming some thing south Asian summit and the supposed forming countries are middle east, Russia,,, even your pokpok LANND is not in so called south ASIA!!!!

EACH of your post screams out the emptiness of your BRAIN more, so for own sake, please referen your self from posting some more utter nonsense, at-least read first what you are supposed to post.
Dimag kya CAMAL ke gOOnd me rakh ke aayea ho?

 

[lupgain]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

HAVE you heard BRICS meeting is happening in India, , NOW,

Do you have any idea how many memberships India has got from different group of nations. Just Google..

DUDE if you want to start a group of nations.. you need money.. don't talk :bs::bs::bs::bs::bs:

Seriously!!! it's like beggar saying, I want to start World Class Start up.., Also want to be CEO of new company..

Try starting a small group in your neighborhood, without putting a penny and you will know challenges you face to make it functional , it's a game of money and power .. so don't dream..

Even if you could somehow convince some countries to come together, you won' run it or own it..or have a say in it.... unless you put money.. So... think twice, there is proverb, which goes...

" You can con everything but money"
" Duniya mein har cheez ka dikhawa kar sakte ho, paise ka naahi"

All super powers which you mentioned (Russia, China, Iran), none came to your help when you said " KASHMIR..." but when India said "Isolation for Pakistan" Whole bunch of nations in SAARC stood by India,

You have a bad reputation in your neighborhood and then you are trying to form a group with World Powers...

Ask Russia or China for charity they will show you true colors,

CPEC is a loan , current Pakistan government is least bothered about repayment.. but Pakistanis will have to pay Chinese from their nose"

 

[m-jeri]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

I mean, how humiliated and embarrassed do you feel to say such things?

So one side you say you are not isolated and now you want new groups.

 

[SANITY]

SAARC is a useless organization, but our new organization South Asian economic alliance when including our brother China, Russia, Iran and the neighboring Central Asian republics would be a game changer by including big partners.

Meanwhile, India wouldn't be welcomed and never be allowed to join, as India can keep busy with his own meticulous small country so called SAARC and use them as puppets and play with them in impractical manner, while the end result would be nothing.

So you want to make a new South Asian Economic Alliance with only one south asian country in it i.e Pakistan. Probably an inbreeding effect, right?

 

[Akask kumar]

Pakistan seeks bigger Saarc to counter India’s influence



Examine: How Pakistan should respond to a dangerous time


No, we will be honoured to join it. Just make sure that wr don't start lashing you even here what we have done on other platforms.:biggrin2:


Editorial: Undermining Saarc



Maldives is same as that of Bangladesh, a base for Indian Military. They prefer interests over Islamic brotherhood. Sri Lanka's new government is Indophillic. India is running more than 450 projects (mostly in Nepal) and SL.











@aditya10r @Akask kumar @indiatester @sorcerer

the only likely candidate to join the new anti-india grp is Nepal. not even maldives or sri-lanka.. maldives is dependent on India even for their fresh water supplies and Sri-lanka is more geographically,culturally ,tradewise.connected to India than pak ..

Commie Nepal may betray India..

bangladesh - we know their anti pak sentiments and South east asian countries dnt take much interest in South asian politics , specially between India n Pak.. plus i dnt think they like the expansonist China..

if u remember there was joint Think tank formed between china pak -- RANDI-- no doubt this new anti-SAARC grp idea is prodcut of Randi thinking..[pun intended]

Pak and china can love and write poem for each other ..we and other south asian countries dont care much..