Pakistan rolls the dice, at what price?

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    After the OBL fiasco, the Pak Army was in the dumps and there was furore in Pakistan over the incompetence of the Pakistan Armed Forces. It had to do something to restore its image. And, as per form, the ISI salvaged the Armed Forces with its standard 'bag of tricks' - targeting foreign inimical assets and via assassination!!

    Mike Mullen only told the truth stating that the terrorists are but an extension of the real terror organisation - ISI. It is obvious that Pakistan and Pakistanis are not pleased!

    If indeed an anti-West Islamist regime takes over in Kabul, President Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski plan that theey envisaged when they began providing covert support to the Afghan mujahideen through Pakistan in 1979 would be one of the master failure and exposing the US to greater danger than the Soviet Union since terrorist are an invisible force with a powerful juju that defies rational behaviour - religion, while the Soviet Union was a credible physical entity with a rational, if indeed an inimical, ideology.

    China is Pakistan's all weather friend. However, as I have repeatedly mentioned, China has never come to Pakistan's assistance in times of national crisis as in the wars with India, even though China has been quick with meaningless pious platitudes that have done nothing good for Pakistan.

    China has given military aid in the form of lethal toys, but she has been tight fisted when Pakistan was in dire necessity of hard cash. China knows its onions and does not part with cash since hard cash outflow will not power China's industry or economy while military toys and constructional work will generate Chinese growth and create jobs for the Chinese people.

    Saudi Arabia has salvaged Pakistan many a time with hard cash and subsidised oil and will be ready to assist a 'Muslim Brother', but only to a point since it is too embroiled as the US' cats paw in the Middle East.

    Such a pitiable state Pakistan is in that, one her own, she is a non entity in the comity of nations, and instead requires to piggy back foreign powers to remain relevant.

    True that the bludgeoning nuclear arsenal is a deterrent to designs to send Pakistan to Kingdom Come, but then one does not require a war to put Pakistan in their place.

    Pakistan has herself created the weapon that could be used against her - her terrorists who are also veering crazily to be reckonable, What could be better if they are assisted in their aspiration to have their own countries carved out of Pakistan?!!

    The plum is ripe and about to drop with a slight nudge from in
     
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    karzai already said in press conference yesterday that they want EU, US and INDIA to take part in afghan trouble and admit that pakistan lead reconciliation process only led to death of prominent leader and more over there is no headway. now lets see how desperate and hapless pakistan comes up with a deadly solution to create trouble for all.
     
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    It seem's only as America start's to wind down operation's in Afghanistan it's willing to take on it's not so willing partner in the wot.America must feel it has a stronger hand now bin laden is dead,and wont's to capitalise on pakistan's weakness. Appeasement does not work,shame it's taken so long for the USA to realise this.
     
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    An interesting commentary as a backgrounder for the discussion.
     
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    An interesting commentary as a backgrounder for the discussion.
     
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    Another backgrounder.
     
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    No Afghanistan solution without Pakistan, says Adm Mullen
    September 30, 2011 23:42 IST

    Admiral Mike Mullen [ Images ], chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, on Friday said that there can be no solution to the conflict in Afghanistan without Pakistan.


    "I continue to believe that there is no solution in the region without Pakistan, and no stable future in the region without a partnership," Mullen told his successor General Martin Dempsey as he stepped down from his post.


    "I urged Marty to remember the importance of Pakistan to all of this; to try and do a better job than I did with that vexing, and yet vital, relationship," he said in his farewell address at an impressive ceremony in Washington attended by President Barack Obama [ Images ] and the top American military leadership.


    "Our strategy is the right one. We must keep executing it."


    At a Congressional hearing last week, Mullen said that the Haqqani network is a veritable arm of the Inter-Services Intelligence of Pakistan.


    In days following his remarks, other wings of the Obama Administration tried to distance itself from his remarks that created further strain in US-Pak relationship. Mullen, however, said he stands by his remarks and would change even a word from his Congressional testimony.


    Praising Mullen's leadership during the period of two wars, Obama said the US military is stronger and America is more secure because of the service that you have rendered.


    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Mullen will always stand apart in a special place. "His leadership, his influence, his honest candor, his straight talk, his compassion and his outspoken concern for our troops and for their families have set him apart. And he has set an exceptionally high standard for the role of chairman of the joint chiefs," he said.
     

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