Pakistan religious leader: Capture of CHINA by Islamic army

[DaTang]

That's the case of all poor natives. Let's not forget the Chinese in Canada and America who were treated like slaves, forced to build the Railroads in brutal conditions with barely any pay. It's common knowledge in Canada that for every km of railroad built, there lies the dead body of one Chinese immigrant worker. Infact, the Canadian government at the time even compared Chinese workers to "machines on loan, which you can use and than return".

I cannot agree with you more. Problem is I did brag about China's influence in North America. They are not traded like slaved, they are. They got shanghaied
and shipped around and got exploited. miserable history of old China, we share something plorable don't we?

Being westerners' slave can never spread any culture, let alone impact on anything.

Yeah, it's these same Chinese morals which sent China packing out of Libya.

Morals aside, packing is something impressive don't you think, we also picked up some hitchhiker bhais along the road and they are thankful when they unboard in Bombay.

Kidding ,seriously speaking China failed due to its stress on economy only. military presence now realized to be a must to safeguard your interest, thank you again
for watching us closely when we navigate through the Mighty HinduOcean (yeah, I used Hindu)

Racism can easily go both ways, especially when you're from China...

and you are proud of being a victim, that is why I always recommend a revolution in India, you just don't have that shame in you.

So tell me which Indian neighbour is India's enemy, except for China and Pakistan?

please read the thread

Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a pawn. Delusional communists.

Nah, there are lot of decent Indian even they disagree with me, they are not a pawn as you are.

 

[Tronic]

Open as the blocked twitter fb feed last month. let along who control the media and decide what to open.

India doesn't have the same Chinese control over censorship. The twitter or fb tweets were barely blocked, because the notice to block has to be first sent to the ISPs, and by the time such a notice is even implemented, the block is lifted. It ain't nothing like China.

NO DISPUTE? are you beeping telling a lie or what? even the incompetent Nationalist government disputed! of course, they are like your government nowadays, were
just proxies of their western masters, anyways, you educate yourself first before lying horse's dropping around. I don't say bull, because they are devine hahahaha.

Yes, there was no dispute because China was militarily defeated and subdued by Britain.

Even Hong Kong became part of Britain, because they militarily defeated your Qing Empire and took it over!

You are the one who needs to educate yourself. Go read up on the Opium Wars.

pure lie, no need to argue but I will teach you some basics, at that time, China faces USSR and USA's combined pressure, 1962 China just recovered from a long last natural disaster. do you think China has the luxury to proactively attack any country? stop lying, you forktongue.

In 1962, India barely had 20,000 soldiers in theatre at any given time. China had a million man army with its reserves. It put more than 100,000 soldiers into the theatre against India; and could push in more than half a million men from other sectors if the need arose.

You need to learn some basics before trying to teach me.

Illiterate. I have nothing to say, here, who told you China's ideology aligns with any country.

You did. When you tried to play up Pakistan and China's ideological differences. I'm just pointing out that China has never been faithful to ideology, so that point is moot. It has routinely back-stabbed it's ideological brothers to serve it's own interests. Soviets and Vietnam come to mind.

Yeah, My leaders were shit scared of the soviets so they fought a border war with it.

PLA did not choose that border war, and ran to America for protection.

Some leader shit scared of nothing and fled New Delhi with pissed pants in 1962.

It's still much better than fleeing China and running to Washington with pissed pants, like the Chinese leadership did after the Soviet threat.

Agreed, India barely have a military now since it serves the interests for only top 1% of your upper caste and Italy, haha,

Trolling won't change the fact that it gave China a spanking in '67 and '87.

Hell, even Vietnam gave your military a spanking twice.

Sadly you were, have your countrymen to explain that to you or simply graduate from your highschool.

Before that, you must first learn to construct a sentence properly. Chinese education system seems to have failed you.

Mao did not kill anybody, India today, more than 120 thousands people died annually due to malnutrition. Mao has a saying, we need a stick to scare off dogs even
we are not fed well. He and his Chinese people did that.

120 thousand people dying of malnutrition over a period of several years in India is still a lot better than an estimated 20 million dead from starvation in less than 2 years in China. Mao was a turd who ----ed your country up big time. And if you still celebrate him, it only lays witness to the Communist brainwashing you have had to endure. God bless.

Deng is a long history, he liberate his family and they become filthy rich by stealing national treasure and putting lay-off female workers to brothel, if you like this pathetic dwarf, he is all yours.

He didn't kill millions of Chinese, and opened up your economy. Otherwise, you would still be picking rice from your fields if you were under Mao.

 

[DaTang]

It's not surprising to see you go speechless, especially since it is very easy to troll back and fourth but difficult to engage in a discussion revolving around facts.

Education takes patience and time, I am talking with adults, some bahis please take this kid to bed.

 

[Tronic]

I cannot agree with you more. Problem is I did brag about China's influence in North America. They are not traded like slaved, they are. They got shanghaied
and shipped around and got exploited. miserable history of old China, we share something plorable don't we?

Being westerners' slave can never spread any culture, let alone impact on anything.

I'm not talking about the "Shangaied" Chinese. I'm talking about genuine Chinese migrants who were very poorly treated by the Canadians. Go read up history.

Kidding ,seriously speaking China failed due to its stress on economy only. military presence now realized to be a must to safeguard your interest, thank you again
for watching us closely when we navigate through the Mighty HinduOcean (yeah, I used Hindu)

You can barely handle Taiwan and Japan and you are speaking of military presence through the Indian Ocean. If China even tried to get involved militarily in Libya; France and UK would've made minced meat out of you.

and you are proud of being a victim, that is why I always recommend a revolution in India, you just don't have that shame in you.

I'm a victim? Huh? Of what? Racism?

I am merely laughing at the fact that I have actually defended a lot of Chinese folks who were facing racist attacks, and people making fun of their accents; but here, I have a Chinese chap trying to be racist towards Indians. I just find that idea laughable.

 

[DaTang]

India doesn't have the same Chinese control over censorship. The twitter or fb tweets were barely blocked, because the notice to block has to be first sent to the ISPs, and by the time such a notice is even implemented, the block is lifted. It ain't nothing like China.

Inida does have control over firearms, but free Indian people express their freedom by shooting machine guns and fighting guerrilla wars, don't be so blinded by your democrazy, india being india today is because you drink too much doze of democraZy left on purpose for you by your old masters.

Yes, there was no dispute because China was militarily defeated and subdued by Britain.

Even Hong Kong became part of Britain, because they militarily defeated your Qing Empire and took it over!

You are the one who needs to educate yourself. Go read up on the Opium Wars.

Are you insane or just merely incapable of reading textual information, I totally agree what you said, but what you said has nothing to do with what you trying to say.
Qing WAS defeated, HongKong has been seized by imperialists by force, so what? all this makes China shut up and be a underdog like you have been?

We took back Hongkong, we gunned down Pirates Army in Korea with his cousin, we just did some thing extra and gunned down a british running dog Nehru in 1962. hehe but all this has anything to do with what you said?

In 1962, India barely had 20,000 soldiers in theatre at any given time. China had a million man army with its reserves. It put more than 100,000 soldiers into the theatre against India; and could push in more than half a million men from other sectors if the need arose.

You need to learn some basics before trying to teach me.

You are such an adacious liar aren't you, if you do not trust non-indian source, wikipedia is edited by American Indian, check their stats. Please, give us a break.
we captured 8835 POWs for one battle and you are saying half of your theatre force surrendered? oh, please.

You did. When you tried to play up Pakistan and China's ideological differences. I'm just pointing out that China has never been faithful to ideology, so that point is moot. It has routinely back-stabbed it's ideological brothers to serve it's own interests. Soviets and Vietnam come to mind.

Read my post before you make any assumption, I told you sino-russian ties were actually ruined by ideology. Mao and chinese leaders are against so called revisionists, thus bring the issue to discussion with canon shells.

Vietnam is like india, it has never been a major play but just a proxy of superpower, it backstabbed its major sponsor China, so don't lie an apparent lie.



PLA did not choose that border war, and ran to America for protection.



It's still much better than fleeing China and running to Washington with pissed pants, like the Chinese leadership did after the Soviet threat.




Trolling won't change the fact that it gave China a spanking in '67 and '87.

Hell, even Vietnam gave your military a spanking twice.



Before that, you must first learn to construct a sentence properly. Chinese education system seems to have failed you.




120 thousand people dying of malnutrition over a period of several years in India is still a lot better than an estimated 20 million dead from starvation in less than 2 years in China. Mao was a turd who ----ed your country up big time. And if you still celebrate him, it only lays witness to the Communist brainwashing you have had to endure. God bless.



He didn't kill millions of Chinese, and opened up your economy. Otherwise, you would still be picking rice from your fields if you were under Mao.[/QUOTE]

 

[DaTang]

I'm not talking about the "Shangaied" Chinese. I'm talking about genuine Chinese migrants who were treated like slaves by the Canadians. Go read up history.



You can barely handle Taiwan and Japan and you are speaking of military presence through the Indian Ocean. If China even tried to get involved militarily in Libya; France and UK would've made minced meat out of you.



I'm a victim? Huh? Of what? Racism?

I am merely laughing at the fact that I have actually defended a lot of Chinese folks who were facing racist attacks, and people making fun of their accents; but here, I have a Chinese chap trying to be racist towards Indians. I just find that idea laughable.

see, this is what I just told you ,you are being made fun of your bent as paint, Dankyou as Thank you, and you are playing with discrimination , careful, pal,
it burns you first. Chinese accent has a pretext, we do not speak your masters' language. Well you do.

You are constitution are write in English, and you are laughing at CHinese accent. hehe.

 

[Tronic]

Inida does have control over firearms, but free Indian people express their freedom by shooting machine guns and fighting guerrilla wars, don't be so blinded by your democrazy, india being india today is because you drink too much doze of democraZy left on purpose for you by your old masters.

Jumping from internet censorship straight to gun control and democracy. Hopping around all over the place won't prove your point, sadly.

We can happily debate gun control, or we can debate Democracy. But first make up your mind what you want to talk about first.

Are you insane or just merely incapable of reading textual information, I totally agree what you said, but what you said has nothing to do with what you trying to say.

Learn to communicate properly before trying to attack someone. Going by the difference in our language skills, If I get down to personal attacks, I could have you with your pants down running for the door. Just keep that in mind.

Qing WAS defeated, HongKong has been seized by imperialists by force, so what? all this makes China shut up and be a underdog like you have been?

We took back Hongkong, we gunned down Pirates Army in Korea with his cousin, we just did some thing extra and gunned down a british running dog Nehru in 1962. hehe but all this has anything to do with what you said?

England handed you Hong Kong in 1997, you didn't "take it back". Pirates army in Korea? I take it you're referring to the Korean War? You guys got whacked by the Americans, and if the Soviet Union didn't come in support of you, North Korea wouldn't exist today. As for Nehru, he was leader of NAM, hardly a British dog. A far cry from Chinese leadership in the 60s which acted like an American poodle against the Soviets.

You are such an adacious liar aren't you, if you do not trust non-indian source, wikipedia is edited by American Indian, check their stats. Please, give us a break.
we captured 8835 POWs for one battle and you are saying half of your theatre force surrendered? oh, please.

8835 POWs. Nice number, care to provide any links? Or did you pull it out of your posterior?

Read my post before you make any assumption, I told you sino-russian ties were actually ruined by ideology. Mao and chinese leaders are against so called revisionists, thus bring the issue to discussion with canon shells.

It doesn't change my point. If Soviets were divergent from your ideology, than were Americans following your ideology? No. Your leaders still went and kissed American ass. Why?

Vietnam is like india, it has never been a major play but just a proxy of superpower, it backstabbed its major sponsor China, so don't lie an apparent lie.

Vietnam was the one who got invaded by China, so I think your "backstab" assertion is actually the opposite. Both times Vietnam was invaded by China, both times they gave the Chinese military a bloody nose and sent your boys running back to China with their tail between their legs.

 

[Tronic]

see, this is what I just told you ,you are being made fun of your bent as paint, Dankyou as Thank you, and you are playing with discrimination , careful, pal,
it burns you first.

Errmm... no, you were the one who tried to play with discrimination, and when that turned out to be a joke, you seem stung. There's a famous proverb, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Chinese accent has a pretext, we do not speak your masters' language. Well you do.

You are constitution are write in English, and you are laughing at CHinese accent. hehe.

You can't read properly. I said I defended the Chinese folks who were being made fun of for their accent.

As for language, we are multilingual people.

English is today an international language, it is high time you learn it. Most Indians can speak, at the least, 3 different languages. So your point is moot.

And the Indian constitution is written in Hindi as well, for your information.

 

[DaTang]

Errmm... no, you were the one who tried to play with discrimination, and when that turned out to be a joke, you seem stung. There's a famous proverb, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

huh? what made you come up with this kind of conclusion?
Discrimination for what ?

You can't read properly. I said I defended the Chinese folks who were being made fun of for their accent.

I did not miss any of your points, you tried to show off you have a more idiomatic way of speaking english (which in fact you do)
so that you can defend a Chinese, but we are talking about accent here, grammar does not help.

As for language, we are multilingual people.

English is today an international language, it is high time you learn it. Most Indians can speak, at the least, 3 different languages. So your point is moot.

And the Indian constitution is written in Hindi as well, for your information.

That's saddest part, you are actually not a multi-lingual nation, you are a class lingual nation. educated speak english, poors whatever they speak they could not understand you, South indians can only communicate with Northerners with English, you are basically a country without a unified communication symbol system.

English plays a bad role for your ultimate liberation, it is a foreign language to your culture no matter how well you can speak it.

 

[DaTang]

Jumping from internet censorship straight to gun control and democracy. Hopping around all over the place won't prove your point, sadly.

We can happily debate gun control, or we can debate Democracy. But first make up your mind what you want to talk about first.

Unless you cannot read, you should already know what I implied, with your freedom of speech installed so well, you people still need to resort to guerrilla war to balance their book, how pathetic your so called democracy or your FoS is in front of this iron fact.

Learn to communicate properly before trying to attack someone. Going by the difference in our language skills, If I get down to personal attacks, I could have you with your pants down running for the door. Just keep that in mind.

I am stating a truth by calling you liar. there is no PA involved. you just made a lot of bright day lies.

England handed you Hong Kong in 1997, you didn't "take it back". Pirates army in Korea? I take it you're referring to the Korean War? You guys got whacked by the Americans, and if the Soviet Union didn't come in support of you, North Korea wouldn't exist today. As for Nehru, he was leader of NAM, hardly a British dog. A far cry from Chinese leadership in the 60s which acted like an American poodle against the Soviets.

We take it back without fight a war, Brits give it up. admit it.
How you want to call Korean War, you uncle signed a treaty of cease fire with Chinese.
NK and Soviet started the war, we just pitched in to avoid our backyard fence got burnt, you get the fact straight.
We also defeated Nehru's Army and captured 8800 plus POW, which an indian claimed counts as half of its force on the theatre.

8835 POWs. Nice number, care to provide any links? Or did you pull it out of your posterior?

Now please deny your own source with your posterior or whatever ior.
1962 Indo-China war: Stories of the prisoners of war - YouTube
by the way, 5000 were killed in action, that sums up like 13000 of your imaginary 20000, you really hate India,haha.

It doesn't change my point. If Soviets were divergent from your ideology, than were Americans following your ideology? No. Your leaders still went and kissed American ass. Why?

Do you even have an opinion? no please continue dream on and we like the way you are.



Vietnam was the one who got invaded by China, so I think your "backstab" assertion is actually the opposite. Both times Vietnam was invaded by China, both times they gave the Chinese military a bloody nose and sent your boys running back to China with their tail between their legs.

 

[Tronic]

huh? what made you come up with this kind of conclusion?
Discrimination for what ?

I did not miss any of your points, you tried to show off you have a more idiomatic way of speaking english (which in fact you do)
so that you can defend a Chinese, but we are talking about accent here, grammar does not help.

You were indulging in pointless rhetoric and stereotypes against Indians regarding 7/11s and Motels and whatnot. I merely pointed out to you that it is not good for you to indulge in such stereotypes because they can very easily go both ways.

Secondly, I did not "show off" anything. If I wanted to "show off", I could have very easily retaliated to the countless personal attacks you have levied against me in every post of yours, but I didn't.

That's saddest part, you are actually not a multi-lingual nation, you are a class lingual nation. educated speak english, poors whatever they speak they could not understand you,

So poor people speak a different language than the middle class? That makes no sense at all, and I wonder how that works. Does this mean that when the Ambani family was poor, they spoke a different language, and now that they are billionaires, their mother tongue has somehow automatically changed? It's beyond my comprehension. Enlighten me.

South indians can only communicate with Northerners with English, you are basically a country without a unified communication symbol system.

So can you communicate with Tibetans in their language? If not, than how can you force them to communicate in your language? Is that not hypocrisy and Han imperialism?

English plays a bad role for your ultimate liberation, it is a foreign language to your culture no matter how well you can speak it.

English is as foreign to India, as Cantonese and Mandarin are to Tibetans and Uyghars of China.

 

[DaTang]

You were indulging in pointless rhetoric and stereotypes against Indians regarding 7/11s and Motels and whatnot. I merely pointed out to you that it is not good for you to indulge in such stereotypes because they can very easily go both ways.[/quotes]
oh, sorry for that then, we don't discriminate 7/11, sorry for any bad implication you may sense from the sentences.
Chinese run fast cheap restaurants and dry cleaning all over the world too, that is not something I am entitled to discrimate, they make honest money as indian gas station keepers.

That is also one of the reasons we cannot get our thoughts through. we just don't think it is a discrimination. if anything negative, that is we two people are too hard

Secondly, I did not "show off" anything. If I wanted to "show off", I could have very easily retaliated to the countless personal attacks you have levied against me in every post of yours, but I didn't.[/quoted]
Of course you can, it is an indian forum, and I am trying to clarify some facts with English which is your mother tongue. I already received 2 warning emails after I was PAed by your members, so consider my retaliation a fairplay. next time show me which words irritates you I can keep it in a milder tone.

So poor people speak a different language than the middle class? That makes no sense at all, and I wonder how that works. Does this mean that when the Ambani family was poor, they spoke a different language, and now that they are billionaires, their mother tongue has somehow automatically changed? It's beyond my comprehension. Enlighten me.

Let me use a very simple example to wake you up, go to Assam, and ask a passby on road how you can get to your hotel in Hindi.
Or try to explain what 1962 war is to a lady farmer in Goa.

My point is your society is very immobile, people born with a predictable fate. English is just a luxury enjoyed by those who have the means and resources to get a basic education. there are slumdog millionairs, but there not always are, and you can count them with your hands.

by the way you don't have a middle class at all, as china does not either, middle class is a class making 20000 dollars or above. You are too far from there.

So can you communicate with Tibetans in their language? If not, than how can you force them to communicate in your language? Is that not hypocrisy and Han imperialism?

To your surprise, we hans and tibetan can communicate with eachother using CHinese. this, you have to learn from CHina. haha.



English is as foreign to India, as Cantonese and Mandarin are to Tibetans and Uyghars of China.

 

[Tronic]

Unless you cannot read, you should already know what I implied, with your freedom of speech installed so well, you people still need to resort to guerrilla war to balance their book, how pathetic your so called democracy or your FoS is in front of this iron fact.

Our democracy didn't starve to death 20 million people. That's good enough for me.

I am stating a truth by calling you liar. there is no PA involved. you just made a lot of bright day lies.

I guess that would make you an ignorant Mao humper who refuses to accept reality and lives in his communist paradise.

We take it back without fight a war, Brits give it up. admit it.

Because the British lived up to their treaty obligations which they had promised to give up Hong Kong. You had nothing to do with it.

How you want to call Korean War, you uncle signed a treaty of cease fire with Chinese.
NK and Soviet started the war, we just pitched in to avoid our backyard fence got burnt, you get the fact straight.

Soviet Union only supplied weapons to NK and China, they never formally entered the war. As for cease fire, again, Soviet Union was the reason America signed that ceasefire, you're delusional if you think China had anything to do with it. The Americans were giving a brutal beating to your Chinese army when that cease fire was signed. You should say thanks to the Soviets, who you betrayed later.

We also defeated Nehru's Army and captured 8800 plus POW, which an indian claimed counts as half of its force on the theatre.

You still haven't given me a link for "8800". That's still a number you're pulling out of your posterior.

Now please deny your own source with your posterior or whatever ior.
1962 Indo-China war: Stories of the prisoners of war - YouTube
by the way, 5000 were killed in action, that sums up like 13000 of your imaginary 20000, you really hate India,haha.

5,000 died fighting to their last. That war saw less POWs than KIA; but where is your imaginary "8800" POW number coming from? You're a dishonest commie pulling numbers out of your behind.

1962 Chinese Military: The estimated strength of the PLA in 1962 was approximately three million officers and men. The 1962 ground combat forces consisted of about 130 divisions, mostly infantry.

1962 Indian Military: The Army numbered about 350,000, and there was only minimal growth in manpower over the next several years. The Indian Army had significant personnel problems. The Army had only eight divisions--seven infantry and one armor. Only three battalions were available to the Western Command in the early 1960s.
The China-India Border War

130 Chinese divisions, against 8 Indian divisions. No wonder the Chinese won just by carrying out massive human wave attacks. Not surprising.

 

[DaTang]

You were indulging in pointless rhetoric and stereotypes against Indians regarding 7/11s and Motels and whatnot. I merely pointed out to you that it is not good for you to indulge in such stereotypes because they can very easily go both ways.[/quotes]
oh, sorry for that then, we don't discriminate 7/11, sorry for any bad implication you may sense from the sentences.
Chinese run fast cheap restaurants and dry cleaning all over the world too, that is not something I am entitled to discrimate, they make honest money as indian gas station keepers.

That is also one of the reasons we cannot get our thoughts through. we just don't think it is a discrimination.

let me finish this sentence, if there is anything negative about using 7/11 as example, that is both CHinese and Indian were discriminated by westerners of doing such as low end job.

 

[DaTang]

Our democracy didn't starve to death 20 million people. That's good enough for me.

Your democracy starved far more than that. Even now, even this every second, some kids died due to malnutrition. North Korean did a better job than you guys.
here is the OFFICIAL WORLD BANK stats, if you may ,please refer to it:
South Asia - India: Malnutrition Report

and 20 million is a figure invented from nowhere, no stats support it.

I guess that would make you an ignorant Mao humper who refuses to accept reality and lives in his communist paradise.

Guess me a high school drop out will serve the purpose better than color me up as a red illusionist.
China as you may not know, has never been one communist society, it is more like a mixture of everything, it has been a mixture of everything.






Because the British lived up to their treaty obligations which they had promised to give up Hong Kong. You had nothing to do with it.



Soviet Union only supplied weapons to NK and China, they never formally entered the war. As for cease fire, again, Soviet Union was the reason America signed that ceasefire, you're delusional if you think China had anything to do with it. The Americans were giving a brutal beating to your Chinese army when that cease fire was signed. You should say thanks to the Soviets, who you betrayed later.



You still haven't given me a link for "8800". That's still a number you're pulling out of your posterior.




5,000 died fighting to their last. That war saw less POWs than KIA; but where is your imaginary "8800" POW number coming from? You're a dishonest commie pulling numbers out of your behind.



130 Chinese divisions, against 8 Indian divisions. No wonder the Chinese won just by carrying out massive human wave attacks. Not surprising.[/QUOTE]

 

[Tronic]

Of course you can, it is an indian forum, and I am trying to clarify some facts with English which is your mother tongue.

My mother tongue is Punjabi, not English. English is a second language to me.

I already received 2 warning emails after I was PAed by your members, so consider my retaliation a fairplay. next time show me which words irritates you I can keep it in a milder tone.

What "retaliation"? You're attacking me! I should be the one who should be retaliating. I don't care about your relationship with other members here, you're talking to me right now. If you want to retaliate for personal attacks against you, than attack the people who attacked you. You don't -----ing retaliate against random people. You don't need to know a language to have that much etiquette.

Let me use a very simple example to wake you up, go to Assam, and ask a passby on road how you can get to your hotel in Hindi.
Or try to explain what 1962 war is to a lady farmer in Goa.

Poor examples. Assam and Goa largely know Hindi, but Hindi isn't even my mother tongue. I speak Punjabi at home. What does that have to do with rich and poor? It only shows that India is such a great country that despite Hindi not being my mother tongue, it allows me to keep my own language. On the other hand, Han people discriminate against all other minorities in China, that Tibetans and Uyghars are forced to learn Mandarin and Cantonese, both Han languages. Than how can you argue that Han are not imperialist people?

My point is your society is very immobile, people born with a predictable fate. English is just a luxury enjoyed by those who have the means and resources to get a basic education. there are slumdog millionairs, but there not always are, and you can count them with your hands.

No, it only shows how bland your own country is, because you cannot comprehend the cultural richness of India, where each state has its own language, culture, traditions, food, etc. In China, only the imperial Han Chinese dominate all other minorities.

by the way you don't have a middle class at all, as china does not either, middle class is a class making 20000 dollars or above. You are too far from there.

Errmmm... Middle Class is calculated by PPP, not gross per capita. $20,000 in India goes a lot further than $20,000 in the US, and that is because everything is a lot cheaper in India than it is in US. That is how middle class is calculated.

To your surprise, we hans and tibetan can communicate with eachother using CHinese. this, you have to learn from CHina. haha.

Learn what? Han Imperialism? By "Chinese", I suppose you mean Mandarin and Cantonese. Tibetans and Xinjiang are turkic people and Mandarin and Cantonese are not their mother tongue but Tibetan and Turkic Uyghar. You destroying their native culture and language to impose your own is nothing to be proud of and only shows how imperialistic Han Chinese are.

 

[Tronic]

Your democracy starved far more than that. Even now, even this every second, some kids died due to malnutrition. North Korean did a better job than you guys.
here is the OFFICIAL WORLD BANK stats, if you may ,please refer to it:
South Asia - India: Malnutrition Report

As I said, India trails China because you can thank Deng for opening up China in the early 1980s while India only opened up after 1991. So without a doubt, you have a head start. Democracy has nothing to do with it. If Communism was so great, China wouldn't be same as India before 1980s.

China opened up in 1980s, and began to grow by 1990s. India opened up to the world in 1990s and began to rapidly grow in 2000s. That's the only difference.

Here:

World Development Indicators and Global Development Finance - Google Public Data Explorer

and 20 million is a figure invented from nowhere, no stats support it.

I'm actually being nice when I say 20 million. Real figures are estimated to be much higher:

Madman who starved 60 million to death: Devastating book reveals how Mao's megalomania turned China into a madhouse | Mail Online
Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years' - News - Books - The Independent

Guess me a high school drop out will serve the purpose better than color me up as a red illusionist.
China as you may not know, has never been one communist society, it is more like a mixture of everything, it has been a mixture of everything.

What BS. Only after 1980s. Thanks to Deng. Not your twat Mao!

 

[RedDragon]

Anyway Indian is more vulnerable to these kind of people. After all they are more easy to enter Indian and more difficult to distinguished in Indian.
So, be careful.

 

[RedDragon]

Anyway Indian is more vulnerable to these kind of people. After all they are more easy to enter Indian and more difficult to distinguished in Indian.
So, be careful.

And in Indian, even they are captured, it will wait a long time to be sentenced, and most of the time, it is not what they deserved.
I think the person who lauched the Mumbai attack and captured is still live. Right?

 

[Ray]

Of course you can, it is an indian forum, and I am trying to clarify some facts with English which is your mother tongue.
DaTang

Is it a question of sour grapes that seems to irritate your epidermis?

Indeed, Indians do know English and that too rather well.

But it does not mean it is the mother tongue of Indians. I thought that would be known to all who a even a modicum of knowledge.

You may claim that Chinese is the language of China, but it is not so. Cantonese is way different from the Chinese spoken in the North and they are mutually unintelligible even though the characters are same.

That is why you have to trace the character in the air with your hands when you find that another Chinese is not understanding you.

Let me use a very simple example to wake you up, go to Assam, and ask a passby on road how you can get to your hotel in Hindi.
Or try to explain what 1962 war is to a lady farmer in Goa.

It just goes to show how little you know of India.

In fact, even in Arunachal which is farthest to the East, they speak and understand Hindi.

In Goa they understand Indian history and so your idea that they would not know anything of Indian history is misplaced.

My point is your society is very immobile, people born with a predictable fate. English is just a luxury enjoyed by those who have the means and resources to get a basic education. there are slumdog millionairs, but there not always are, and you can count them with your hands.

Actually the Indian society is rather mobile.

But it is understandable that you cannot comprehend it since you are a product of the 'official sanctioned history' that is imposed on you. Therefore, your dynamics for imagination and intelligent interpretation is stultified.

The manner in which the people of Hong Kong resisted what they called 'brainwashing' and which I call 'conditioned reflexes' (to be polite) does indicate that Mainland Chinese are living in their State sponsored and dictated groove and anything beyond means the Laogai.

To your surprise, we hans and tibetan can communicate with eachother using CHinese. this, you have to learn from CHina. haha

Tibetans and Hans can communicate with each other?

Or the Cantonese and the North?

Maybe those educated in Mandarin, can, but otherwise, your statement does well for a stand up comedian to raise laughs.