Pakistan refuses visas to Sehajdhari Sikhs & Hindus

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  1. rock127

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    Pakistan refuses visas to Sehajdhari Sikhs & Hindus

    AMRITSAR: Pakistan high commission in Delhi recently refused visas to Hindus and sehajdhari Sikhs who wished to observe the martyrdom anniversary of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in Lahore on June 29.

    Various Sikh organizations including the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC), International Bhai Mardana Yadgari Kirtan Darbar Society and Khalra Mission Committee had applied for visas for their respective groups, said society president Harpal Singh Bhullar on Tuesday.
    He said they took up the issue with the president of Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee Sham Singh and urged him to pursue the matter with the Pakistan government through Evacuee Trust Property Board, but this did not yield any results.

    He said, "The Pakistan high commission earlier issued visas to every one but now they have refused nearly 50% of the applicants." In charge of yatra branch, SGPC, Jaspal Singh, said they had applied for visas of 310 devotees.

    President of Nankana Sahib Sikh Yatree Jatha Swaran Singh said all Sikh religious organizations had decided to meet the minister of state for foreign affairs Preneet Kaur.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Now half the Hindu/Sikh pilgrims cant even go their their scared sites because its in Pakistan.

    Eye opener for all.

    If J&K gets in hand of the Pakis then get ready to first apply visa for Vaishno Devi and Amarnath and then see Pakis refusing visa .
     
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    as per one Pakistani, ajtar, they are going to construct Mosque there since it happens to be in Pakistan
     
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    LOL no surprises...if some Baki had approached for an Indian visa to pay homage to Aurangazeb, his visa should be refused too.....:D

    Maharaja Ranjit Singh used Badshahi mosque as a horse stable and hence many Paki Punjabi muslims hate him....Pashtuns hate him in an unqualified manner for he and his general , HSN, were one of the few persons in history to actually take the war to Pashtuns..
     
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    They simply hate any INDIAN and make lame excuses like horse stable. This clearly shows how Pakis refuse to accept their own historic heros.Shame on this disillusioned Paki kaum. Lanat hai aisi kaum pe. What Moguls did to Golden Temple is always forgotten by Pakis.

    Sikh Empire had only 10% Sikhs and consisted of many muslim leaders. He never imposed Sikhism on Hindus/Muslims.
     
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    Azan (call to prayer) was banned too, but not sure if Ranjith Singh initiated the ban
     
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    what about mughal generals use Golden temple as stage to see dance of (kanjaris) mujra girls.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
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    Actually that is not wholly true. Whether Maharajan Ranjit Singh did convert or not is not known. There have been many new stories being spread only recently.

    However, He was not anti-Islam at all, and many muslims, hindus and foreigners occupied top posts in his rule. His age was the golden age of undivided Punjab. Maharaja Ranjit Singh might be hated by a Pakistani Punjabis, but many appreciate him as well.

    Since, Pakistan is on the path of extremism it is quite possible that they may start considering him a villain in the future.


    "A calligraphist who had spent many years making a copy of the holy Koran and had failed to get any of the Muslim princes of Hindustan to give him an adequate price for his labours turned up at Lahore to try and sell it to the Foreign Minister, Fakeer Azizuddin. The Fakeer praised the work but expressed his inability to pay for it. The argument was overheard by Ranjit Singh who summoned the calligraphist to his presence. The Maharaja respectfully pressed the holy book against his forehead and then scrutinized the writing with his single eye. He was impressed with the excellence of the work and bought the Koran for his private collection. Some time later Fakeer Azizuddin asked him why he had paid such a price for a book for which he as a Sikh, would have no use. Ranjit Singh replied: ‘God intended me to look upon all religions with one eye; that is why he took away the light from the other.’"
     
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    Its Pakistan's prerogative who to issue visa and whom not to.You cant question their right.
     
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    In response the Sikhs beheaded that specific Mughal administrator, Massa Rangar, who did that and paraded his head on a pole in public. When the Afghanis later attacked the Golden Temple, we marched our armies into Peshawar, the Afghani summer capitol, and took over the Pashtun lands all the way to Jamrud. Hissa Barabar. God is just! No hard feelings carried over.

    Pakistanis are simply doing these antics because they got their country for free, a gift from the British. So let the Pakistanis role play as the Thekedars for as long as they can, never know when history beckons again. ;)
     
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    Ok boss I should clarify my statement. There is a pervading feeling among Paki Punjabi Muslims that he used Badshahi mosque as his horse stable and hence he is anti-Muslim. Their primary identity is Muslim - not Punjabi - and hence understandable.

    I am aware of the fact that Punjabi Muslims played an important part in the Khalsa Army and the artillery was actually dominated by them.
     
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    Some of them call Maharaja Ranjit Singh a Pakistani Punjabi...just like they call King Puru [Porus] as a Pakistani Punjabi. :D
     
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    Pakistan does not even recognise the Shias or Ahmediyas as humans.

    You cannot blame Pakistan for refusing visas to Sikhs.

    They (the Sikhs) massacred them as if there was no tomorrow right through history.
     
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    Shah Mohammed (a famed Sufi poet of the Punjab) writes in his, Jang Namah on the decline of Ranjit Singh’s kingdom:
    "Ranjit Singh was a born warrior-king who gave his feel to the country. He conquered Kashmir, Multan, Peshawar and made Chamba, Kangra and Jammu bow before him. He extended his territories upto Ladakh and China and struck his coin there. O Shah Mohammed! For fifty years he ruled with satisfaction, glory and power."
    For Shah Mohammed, Punjabi Muslims became part and parcel of the Sarkar-i-Khalsa (the Sikh Kingdom of Ranjit Singh), where in the past they had depended on the Afghans, Arabs, Pashtuns, Persians and Turks, who had consistantly betrayed them.

    Maharaja Ranjit Singh - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.


    The Muslims had no options but to kowtow to Rajit SIngh.

    He was the Undisputed Ruler and who took no nonsense!
     
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    btw what is Sehajdhari Sikhs ?
     
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    In Sikhism, a sehajdari (also transliterated as sahajdari) is a person who disregards the religious prohibitions against haircuts and shaving, but otherwise follows the tenets of the Guru Granth Sahib: they are often gradualist converts.

    As a general rule, Sehajdari are not given the surname of "Singh".

    Sehajdhari is a term used for people who have cut hair or shaven beard but they do believe in the Gurus.

    Sehajdhari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    ^^ sehajdari means slow learners, name given to anyone who is not amritdhari/baptised, and now also given to anyone who cuts their hair.
    Amritdhari are those who have been baptised.
     
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    ^^So you are a sehajdhari? :p
     
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    It is wrong to feel people are dumb.

    Religious rites in the modern world where life is moving fast prevents people from adhering to religious rites in its true form.

    It in no way means one is not true to one's religion.

    Cosmetic rituals alone does not make a person true to one's religion.

    Priestly class who are taken to be pure and true, at times, appear as the biggest hoaxes perpetuated in the name of religion!

    This is applicable to all religion and their priestly or the self proclaimed pious classes.
     
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    There is a saying in Bengali -

    Ati Bhokti. Chorer lakhhan

    Too much or false Bhakti is the sure shot indication of the fraud.
     

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