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I watched secret pakistan yesterday,and was surprised to see such a programme on british tv. I say surprised because we refer to them as our allies in the wot, but in reality their are a bunch of treacherous bastard's . i loved the way all the dot''s were connected to show just how pakistan have been playing not on the USA but the world as well as the harm they cause to the neighbourhood...

If we are only now telling the truth about them i think this proves there usefulness is now coming to a end...
 

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I watched secret pakistan yesterday,and was surprised to see such a programme on british tv. I say surprised because we refer to them as our allies in the wot, but in reality their are a bunch of treacherous bastard's . i loved the way all the dot''s were connected to show just how pakistan have been playing not on the USA but the world as well as the harm they cause to the neighbourhood...

If we are only now telling the truth about them i think this proves there usefulness is now coming to a end...
it surprises me when even after obl fiasco and tons of evidence pointing the dubious role of pakistan, you are still living in wonderland that pakistan is on your side in wot.
west is trying to trim pakistan means they want to take away the links between pakistan( army and intel-isi) and talibs. but this trimming is short term approach, like hairs it will regrow and then--> same problem with more immunity to take down.

we need permanent solution and that is cutting the scalp, death to isi.
 

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Pakistan offers cut-price fighter jet

DUBAI | Sun Nov 13, 2011

(Reuters) - Pakistan is pitching its new JF17 Thunder fighter jet, developed jointly with China, at an aggressive discount to dominant Western rivals, the country's defense minister said on Sunday.

"You can buy three of our aircraft for one F-16," Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar told Reuters at the Dubai Air Show, where the aircraft is being displayed.

He said that the producer, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, was not able to keep pace with the requirements of the air force.

"Three squadrons are already flying the aircraft in Pakistan and one squadron in China," he added.

Analysts expect the aircraft, which Mukhtar said was priced at $25-30 million, to be focused on emerging markets in Asia and Africa.

"Going to the (European) market is not very easy because you are cutting the profits of some other people," Mukhtar said.

He said the development of the aircraft was not targeted at archrival India.

"India need not worry -- it's not India-specific. We are building very close relations with India."

(Reporting by Sitaraman Shankar and Mahmoud Habboush; Editing by David Cowell)

Pakistan offers cut-price fighter jet | Reuters
 

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Pakistan offers cut-price fighter jet

DUBAI | Sun Nov 13, 2011

(Reuters) - Pakistan is pitching its new JF17 Thunder fighter jet, developed jointly with China, at an aggressive discount to dominant Western rivals, the country's defense minister said on Sunday.

"You can buy three of our aircraft for one F-16," Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar told Reuters at the Dubai Air Show, where the aircraft is being displayed.

He said that the producer, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, was not able to keep pace with the requirements of the air force.

"Three squadrons are already flying the aircraft in Pakistan and one squadron in China," he added.

Analysts expect the aircraft, which Mukhtar said was priced at $25-30 million, to be focused on emerging markets in Asia and Africa.

"Going to the (European) market is not very easy because you are cutting the profits of some other people," Mukhtar said.

He said the development of the aircraft was not targeted at archrival India.

"India need not worry -- it's not India-specific. We are building very close relations with India."

(Reporting by Sitaraman Shankar and Mahmoud Habboush; Editing by David Cowell)

Pakistan offers cut-price fighter jet | Reuters
it says one squadron with plaaf! is it true
 

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The Pods And Smart Bombs Of Pakistan
November 23, 2011:

One of the largest air campaigns waged in the last decade has gotten little publicity. The Pakistan Air Force has flown over 5,500 combat sorties over the tribal territories (mainly Waziristan and points north) in the last three years. This was all in support of a major offensive against the Pakistani Taliban, which had organized a tribal rebellion against Pakistan, and was carrying out terror attacks throughout the country as well. Eventually, over 100,000 ground troops were involved, and they depended on the air force for reconnaissance of the thinly populated tribal areas, as well as prompt and accurate bombing support.
For the first year of this campaign, Pakistan admitted that it was often relying on Google Earth for attack planning. Then the air force obtained ten DB-110 reconnaissance pods. These devices, which looked like a large, streamlined bomb, use digital cameras. These are superior to film cameras because no film development is required, and digital images are more easily analyzed using software, rather than depending mostly on human photo interpreters. The infrared sensor records everything in the aircraft's flight path, horizon-to-horizon. The pod records many gigabytes of data to onboard storage devices, and can also transmit less detailed data immediately to a ground station. In the last two years, F-16s carrying DB-110 pods have flown over 500 missions, and been very successful in spotting Taliban camps and units of Taliban themselves.

Some 11,000 bombs were dropped on these targets. Since 80 percent of these were smart bombs, nearly 5,000 targets were destroyed. DB-110 equipped F-16s were often used to check to see what damage was done by these bomb attacks. A C-130 was also equipped with a reconnaissance sensor (a day/night vidcam) that was able to track Taliban on the ground day and night, and made it possible for the army to crush the Taliban in most of the tribal territories.

Pakistan also received eighteen Sniper XR targeting pods in 2008. These pods are all the rage with fighter pilots. The latest generation of these pods contain FLIR (video quality night vision infrared radar) and high resolution TV cameras that enable pilots flying at 6,300 meters (20,000 feet) to clearly make out what is going on down there. The pods also contain laser designators for laser guided bombs, and laser range finders that enable pilots to get coordinates for JDAM (GPS guided) bombs. Safely outside the range of most anti-aircraft fire (five kilometers up, and up to fifty kilometers away), pilots can literally see the progress of ground fighting, and have even been acting as aerial observers for ground forces. These new capabilities also enable pilots to more easily find targets themselves, and hit them with highly accurate laser guided or JDAM bombs. While bombers still get target information from ground controllers for close (to friendly troops) air support, they can now go searching on their own, in areas where there are no friendly ground troops.

Air Weapons: The Pods And Smart Bombs Of Pakistan
 

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The Pods And Smart Bombs Of Pakistan
November 23, 2011:

One of the largest air campaigns waged in the last decade has gotten little publicity. The Pakistan Air Force has flown over 5,500 combat sorties over the tribal territories (mainly Waziristan and points north) in the last three years. This was all in support of a major offensive against the Pakistani Taliban, which had organized a tribal rebellion against Pakistan, and was carrying out terror attacks throughout the country as well. Eventually, over 100,000 ground troops were involved, and they depended on the air force for reconnaissance of the thinly populated tribal areas, as well as prompt and accurate bombing support.
For the first year of this campaign, Pakistan admitted that it was often relying on Google Earth for attack planning. Then the air force obtained ten DB-110 reconnaissance pods. These devices, which looked like a large, streamlined bomb, use digital cameras. These are superior to film cameras because no film development is required, and digital images are more easily analyzed using software, rather than depending mostly on human photo interpreters. The infrared sensor records everything in the aircraft's flight path, horizon-to-horizon. The pod records many gigabytes of data to onboard storage devices, and can also transmit less detailed data immediately to a ground station. In the last two years, F-16s carrying DB-110 pods have flown over 500 missions, and been very successful in spotting Taliban camps and units of Taliban themselves.

Some 11,000 bombs were dropped on these targets. Since 80 percent of these were smart bombs, nearly 5,000 targets were destroyed. DB-110 equipped F-16s were often used to check to see what damage was done by these bomb attacks. A C-130 was also equipped with a reconnaissance sensor (a day/night vidcam) that was able to track Taliban on the ground day and night, and made it possible for the army to crush the Taliban in most of the tribal territories.

Pakistan also received eighteen Sniper XR targeting pods in 2008. These pods are all the rage with fighter pilots. The latest generation of these pods contain FLIR (video quality night vision infrared radar) and high resolution TV cameras that enable pilots flying at 6,300 meters (20,000 feet) to clearly make out what is going on down there. The pods also contain laser designators for laser guided bombs, and laser range finders that enable pilots to get coordinates for JDAM (GPS guided) bombs. Safely outside the range of most anti-aircraft fire (five kilometers up, and up to fifty kilometers away), pilots can literally see the progress of ground fighting, and have even been acting as aerial observers for ground forces. These new capabilities also enable pilots to more easily find targets themselves, and hit them with highly accurate laser guided or JDAM bombs. While bombers still get target information from ground controllers for close (to friendly troops) air support, they can now go searching on their own, in areas where there are no friendly ground troops.

Air Weapons: The Pods And Smart Bombs Of Pakistan
Does Pakistan have JDAM ? I thought sales of JDAM were restricted.
 

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Does Pakistan have JDAM ? I thought sales of JDAM were restricted.
as far as I know , they requested for JDAM , may be they got it in the name of "War on Terror" .

"¢Saudi Arabia has acquired satellite guided, U.S.-made JDAM (Joint Direct Attack Munition) guidance kits that transform iron or "dumb" bombs into smart bombs, thanks to GPS guidance. JDAM bombs can weigh from 500 to 2000 lbs. Saudi Arabia is the only Middle East country other than Israel that carries JDAM smart bombs in its arsenal. Pakistan and Egypt have pending requests for JDAMs. Satellite guided JDAMs have an accuracy, as measured by circular error probability (CEP), of 13 meters or less.

for full article : Sword From The Heavens : MilsatMagazine
 

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Pakistani intermediate and secondary class student set on fire education board building.

RAWALPINDI: Enraged students set the office of the Rawalpindi Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education (RBISE) on fire in protests against the delay of results, Express News reported on Thursday.
The intermediate students were protesting against the delay in results which were due to be released today after being re-checked. They surrounded the board office and damaged the building, and blocked the roads of the area. The board's management called in the police to restore order, but on shelling by the police, the students became further enraged and set the board office on fire.
The computer lab where the result was being compiled was also set on fire.
The board's management also advised people and the rescue teams to move away from the building out of the fear that it may collapse.
The results earlier announced on October 17, compiled by a new computerised system, had major errors and were immediately taken back after massive protests by the students. The new date to announce the result was set for December 15.
A judicial inquiry into the matter of incorrect results was ordered by the Punjab government, and the chairperson and controller exams were suspended following the registration of a criminal case against them for mistakes in the results.


they are the one which our future generations will fight with on virtual arena
 

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Pakistani intermediate and secondary class student set on fire education board building.

RAWALPINDI: Enraged students set the office of the Rawalpindi Board of Intermediate and Secondary Education (RBISE) on fire in protests against the delay of results, Express News reported on Thursday.
The intermediate students were protesting against the delay in results which were due to be released today after being re-checked. They surrounded the board office and damaged the building, and blocked the roads of the area. The board's management called in the police to restore order, but on shelling by the police, the students became further enraged and set the board office on fire.
The computer lab where the result was being compiled was also set on fire.
The board's management also advised people and the rescue teams to move away from the building out of the fear that it may collapse.
The results earlier announced on October 17, compiled by a new computerised system, had major errors and were immediately taken back after massive protests by the students. The new date to announce the result was set for December 15.
A judicial inquiry into the matter of incorrect results was ordered by the Punjab government, and the chairperson and controller exams were suspended following the registration of a criminal case against them for mistakes in the results.


they are the one which our future generations will fight with on virtual arena


Taliban in making.
 

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3 more pakistani troops killed in tribal areas, TTP work may be

PESHAWAR: Three security personnel were killed and two injured in an Improvised Explosive Device (IED) blast in Kurram Agency, sources said on Saturday.
The blast took place in the Katasarai area of the tribal agency. A Lieutenant was also reported to have been killed in the blast.
An operation was launched in Orakzai Agency in March last year and in Kurram this summer. Security forces have increased their advances in the agencies during the last couple of weeks.
 

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pakistan may default anytime

Talking Business: Is Pakistan headed for domestic default?
By Khurram Husain
Published: December 19, 2011

The State Bank has noted that govt debt from private banks cannot grow because it increases debt servicing costs.
KARACHI: Ladies and gentlemen, we have a problem. Our banks are scooping up the country's savings for a pittance, and handing it over to the government and there doesn't appear to be any way to break this ultimately unsustainable cycle of seed corn consumption.
This year, like last, Moody's has been the one to bring to our attention this essential fact about the entire enterprise: "Moody's sovereign ratings on Pakistan imply a significant default probability over the medium-term." Now wait a minute. Did Moody's just think the unthinkable? Are they seriously saying that there is a probability of a default on domestic debt for the government of Pakistan?
Yes they did. And the sentence runs against the ingrained conventional wisdom here in Pakistan, which says that you cannot default on debt which is denominated in a currency that you print. "After all, we can always fire up the presses, print the bills, and pay the debt," say the stakeholders. So why this talk of default?
Two reasons. One is that the unending cycle of rising recourse to domestic borrowing must have an endpoint of some sort. It cannot be a monster that lives and breathes forever. If the fiscal equation that is driving this recourse is not fixed then it stands to reason that somewhere something will have to give. If borrowing and spending endlessly were an option for any government, under the comfort that you can always 'print-and-pay' later, then everybody would be doing all the time.
So how does the whole thing end? I've been meeting bankers, central and otherwise, and economists for almost a year now asking them this question and nobody seems to have a clear idea of how the snapping of this thread plays itself out in the real world. This is not to say that nobody knows, just that nobody is willing to go there in public, that's all.
Second reason. A default on domestic debt can occur in more ways than one. There is today a complex series of instruments in which this debt is denominated, from lending to Public Sector Enterprises (PSE's) to Term Finance Certificates to underwriting LC's for the state oil importer to your rank-and-file treasury bills. What we might fail to appreciate is that in some areas such a default has already taken place, for example in the so-called "circular debt" of the power sector. There are levels of default, not one single "event in the sovereign B3 category" to use the language of the rating agencies.
So put two and two together. The status quo cannot continue indefinitely. It must end somehow, either by a resumption of bank lending to the private sector, or by some sort of a disorderly unwinding of bank lending altogether – hoarding of liquidity. The State Bank has noted this too in its financial stability review, pointing out that government debt from private banks cannot grow indefinitely because it increases debt servicing costs thus fueling the fiscal imbalances.
That leaves us with a long drawn out status quo. Already we know that the government has had a hard time servicing its power sector TFCs that were floated in 2009 and has bowed to the banks original demand to denominate this debt in marketable government securities instead by converting them into PIBs.
So absent a resumption of lending to the private sector, a default becomes more and more likely with the passage of time, with the probability increasing in the medium term. The State Bank is not willing to point this out, but Moody's is.
The writer is editor of business and economic policy for Express News.
 

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for the first time i am listening to IK where he excepts that pakistan has supported terrorism in kashmir on a pakistani channel, otherwise he has always said one thing in india and to indian audience, just another to pakistani channels.

can you post the whole interview, would have loved to listen to as to what defence he would have given to the contradiction pointed out.
 

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for the first time i am listening to IK where he excepts that pakistan has supported terrorism in kashmir on a pakistani channel, otherwise he has always said one thing in india and to indian audience, just another to pakistani channels.

can you post the whole interview, would have loved to listen to as to what defence he would have given to the contradiction pointed out.
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Here you go.
This is the full interview of imran khan and his confession on kashmir.
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must watch, real face of imran khan - YouTube

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Children attacked, church wrecked for disturbing prayers with carols.

Children attacked, church wrecked for disturbing prayers with carols – The Express Tribune
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The Christian community did not register an FIR for the attack, instead apologised to the attackers, for the fear of consequences. PHOTO: EXPRESS
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KARACHI: A group of people praying in a
mosque were so irked by the voices of
children singing carols at a nearby church
that they decided to silence them—by
attacking their house of worship.

On Saturday evening, four men attacked the
Philadelphia Pentecostal Church in New Mianwali
Colony in Manghopir.
A young boy, Samson, was standing outside the
church as his friends sang carols on the
microphone inside. The children were preparing
for mass to be celebrated the next day which was
a Sunday. The loud cheers became terrified
whimpers when suddenly four men, one of
them with an axe, barged into the church.
The men slapped the children, wrecked the
furniture, smashed the microphone on to the
floor and kicked the altar. "You are disturbing our
prayers. We can't pray properly. How dare you
use the mike and speakers?" Samson quoted, the
men as saying.
The commotion inside the church made Samson
call out for help. Three men ran away but one
was caught by the residents who beat him up
before the police reached the spot.
The incident is now a week old, but the attack
frightened the community so much that all of the
nine churches in the area were locked up.
"The day after the attack people did not come for
mass," said Lubna, the daughter of Pastor Daniel.
"They came to our home to ask about what
happened but did not go to church." The pastor
was away.
"The children are so scared that they don't even
want to talk about the attack," Lubna said as she
made sure that all the windows and doors of the
church were tightly shut.
Inside the church, a Christmas tree stood in the
corner and ribbons and balloons adorned the
wall. But in the middle, the broken chair,
microphone and altar with footprints served as a
grim reminder of the incident.
"The attackers claimed that the sound from the
loudspeakers was disturbing their prayers," said a
former councilor and resident of New Mianwali
Colony, Akram Khokhar.
The residents did not register an FIR. A priest at
another church in the area, Fr Arif M Shera,
explained why. "Though it was our house of
worship which was attacked and our children
who were beaten up, we apologised to the other
party," he said. "For the sake of our lives we said
that it was our fault."
MPA Saleem Khokhar said that he informed the
home minister about the incident. "The people
don't want to register an FIR because they are
scared of the consequences."
Meanwhile, a prayer leader of the mosque,
Muhammad Usman, brought the leaders of both
the communities together to talk to them. If the
worshippers had problems with the church, they
should have talked instead of attacking the
church, he said. But he held the children
responsible for what happened. According to
him, the speakers were put on the roof of the
church and the children sang loudly "on purpose"
to irritate the people who came to the mosque. "It
was their fault," insisted Usman. "A number of
ulema in the area complained that the loud music
and songs were disturbing their prayers. They
did not listen when some boys went to stop
them." However, he evaded the question when
asked about the attack. He admitted this much
that the men who attacked the mosque could
have behaved differently.
Usman said that a similar dispute erupted seven
years ago over the use of a loud speaker. It was
decided then that the churchgoers would use
speakers and the microphone from 8 am to 11
am on Sundays only, when mass is celebrated.
They were not allowed to use the speakers
otherwise because prayers would be disturbed.
Around 400 Christian families live amid Pakhtun
families in New Mianwali Colony. The residents
said that another similar dispute seven years ago
ended up with the desecration of the church. The
attackers torched the cross and abused the
worshippers. "Things seemed to have cooled
down for the time being, but we are being
vigilant now," said Fr Shera. "We won't let this
happen again."
Published in The Express Tribune, January 13th,
2012.
 

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