Pakistan Military Can't Afford Modernisation

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  1. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Pakistan Military Can't Afford Modernisation

    SLAMABAD — Pakistan’s new defense budget increases funding for the Army and Air Force and slightly decreases it for the Navy, but challenging economic conditions put near-term procurements in doubt.

    The fiscal 2012-2013 defense budget, in current U.S. dollars, allocates $2.8 billion to the Army, an increase of $128 million; $1.2 billion for the Air Force, an increase of $64 million; and $562 million to the Navy, a $1.4 million decrease from the previous year.

    The defense budget does not, however, usually include procurement funding and is comprised mainly of wages and running costs with increases fueled by ongoing counterinsurgency efforts.

    Analyst and former fighter pilot Kaiser Tufail expects no new procurements in the near future.

    “There is no doubt that the government is facing a very serious funding issue, and modernization programs of all three services are on the back burner,” he said.

    “Although I’d like to keep politics aside, I suspect the government is keeping quite a bit of money to come up with various gimmicks just prior to the elections as well as during [vote buying], so defense matters are secondary for the time being,” he added.

    One high-profile Air Force procurement project, the FC-20, a Pakistani-specific variant of the Chinese Chengdu J-10 Vigorous Dragon multirole fighter, may be adversely affected by the poor economic and political climate, he said.

    Tufail said proceeding with this procurement is “far-fetched for the present.”

    He also criticized money he says is being wasted on what he considers “ill-conceived projects and operations.” As examples, he lists “sustaining Jacobabad Base,” which he said is being largely resupplied by air, has its entire power supply generated on site and is fully air conditioned, the ongoing Siachen operations, expensive staff cars, and VIP transport jets.

    “There seems to be no oversight of the Ministry of Defence or any other watchdog body,” he said.

    There are predictions that the defense budget will continue to incrementally grow, however, some analysts say these predictions are not realistic.

    “I don’t think we can increase the budget incrementally since the economy is not in such good shape. The largest part of the budget is, of course, spent on salaries and the rest on infrastructure and operations,” Tufail said.

    “There is nothing in Pakistan’s economic forecast that makes it feasible for an annual increment in line with the present one. But the fact is that, with the withholding of U.S. military aid, the money has to come from somewhere,” said former Australian defense attaché to Islamabad, Brian Cloughley.

    He also highlighted the effect of escalating operating costs.

    “I don’t think the world at large quite realizes what extra operating costs the Army is having to bear, with over 150,000 Army and [Frontier Constabulary] troops deployed in the border regions — all because of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. The costs of fuel and rations, alone, are staggering. Then there’s the expensive matter of extra sorties by [ground attack fighters] and gunships. Not just the ammunition and ordnance, but the fuel and maintenance bills. People don’t realize what the Afghan war is costing Pakistan.”

    Pakistan Budget Up for Army, Air Force; Down for Navy | Defense News | defensenews.com
     
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  3. hit&run

    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    The Increase in Pakistani budget is just covering the inflation. However USA aid is going to give a shot in their arm as usual.
     
  4. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    US just cancelled Paki Sesame Street funding... the end is near as the withdrawal agreement is going north, not Pakistan. :p
     
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    USA cant leave Afghanistan without Pakistan opening up those logistics lines.USA can only fly Out its soilders out of Afghanistan at huge cost but then it has to leave all those heavy weapons like artillery guns,tanks,APCs etc in afghanistan which are more than enough to arm pakistan army for 3-4 decades.It is usa which got trapped into the monkey trap of afghanistan just as soviets did.Only Pakistan can save usa in afghanistan now.
     
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    Even pakis cartoon is also funded by ameerica lollllllll.

    God has gifted pakis with one thing.:"begging skills"

    They will manage
     
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    USA is a superpower, it can steamroll all the way to Karachi if it wishes.

    As for the Soviets, lest I remind you, it was an American war fought by the CIA, Pakistan was just a tool. It were the American dollars, weapons and logistics which won that war, anything else is a delusion.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    This is why the Pakistanis are dead keen on demilitarisation.

    This is why terrorism in J&K is less.

    Pakistani Army cannot support the dreams any more since they are themselves having nightmares!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Keep yourself abreast.

    The Northern Route has opened up and is operational!
     
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    Hope that helps.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Pakistan can say good bye to the US dole that they were getting through blackmail.

    And that is why

    Pakistan Military Can't Afford Modernisation
     
  12. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    80% of ISAF cargo is non lethal materials which is allowed to pass through the northern land corridor. With the massive transport fleet of C-17s, they can fly the rest out easily. USA won't be trapped. Nobody needs Pakistan except its collapse.
     
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    Dont talk tough, Pakistan is one of the most anti-US nations in the world, your pakistans support of this war or US in general is only because they are afraid of US and have no choice. Pakistan is like a lap dog albeit an ungrateful one.

    Takeing weapons from US by blockading them is an act of war and 700billion dollar war machine will come on your head and break it.
     
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    NDN is not as cheap as pakistani route and moreover NDN is only for transporting non-lethal supply not weaponry.
     
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    usa cant do iraq or afghanistan in pakistan.Pakistans nukes have deterred usa successfully.
     
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    American are very unforgiving. Pakistan will have to pay for it's blackmailing tactics in course of time.

    It is just matter of time/ excuse the US will start treating Pakistan as some convict & punish them & indirectly giving clear signals to China as well. This will be a key step from US to remove Chinese navy presence in Gwadar after it's basing it's 7th fleet in Bay of Bangal.


    The US forces in Afganistan may handover/leave some major armament to Afganistan Army for the their use against Pakistan at the appropriate time.
     
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    USA cant call Pakistani bluff coz usa too knows redlines.
     
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    usa or forgiving to pakistan...lol..Pakistan has usa by scruff of it neck now.Its the usa which is unable to anything to pakistan so its just going mad and kicking up dust in afghanistan.usa has run out of all cards in order to force pakistan.
     
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    Be prepared & lube your self & likes it's going to be very hard grind.
     
  20. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Not to worry.

    Pakistan's foreign policy is - SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER!
     
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    :rofl: USA is screwing your "wannabe" country everyday woman, in the name of Drone stikes. And your wannabe country wants more money for it, just like the way Prostitutes ask for more money from regular clients rather than asking for the drone strikes to stop.:rotflmao:
     
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