Pakistan lashes out at Modi, calls his statement irresponsible

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  1. Sea Eagle

    Sea Eagle Senior Member Senior Member

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    ISLAMABAD –Interior Affairs Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali on Tuesday expressed his reaction over a statement of India’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) candidate for prime ministership Narendra Modi about ‘attacking Pakistan’ and said that his statement was irresponsible and shameful.
    In a statement, issued here, Nisar said that first Modi should decide where Dawood Ibrahim was living in and later dream of attacking Pakistan. The minister said that it looked that Modi had not learned from his shameful mistakes and earning bad name as a chief minister of India’s Gujarat.
    Nisar said that this provocative and condemnable statement of expected prime minister of India and leader of major political party was touching last limit of enmity towards Pakistan. He said that Narindra Modi had gone to the extent in enmity towards Pakistan particularly Muslims that if elected as a prime minister it would destabilise the regional peace.
    The minister said those who were giving statements that Pakistan was sheltering Dawood Ibrahim and launching operation on Pakistan soil should realise that neither Pakistan was a weak country to be afraid of such threats, nor Pakistani nation can be impressed with such irresponsible statements.

    He said that Pakistan’s efforts for peace in the region should not be considered its weakness. He said that the Pakistani leadership, people and particularly armed forces have the right and power to reciprocate the expression of sentiments coming from across the border.

    Pakistan lashes out at Modi, calls his statement irresponsible, shameful
     
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  3. Neo

    Neo Senior Member Senior Member

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    Expect more war mongering by BJP if he's elected.
     
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    BangersAndMash Regular Member

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    1947 - War monger Jinnah sends hired thugs and newly formed pak army in to Kashmir and starts the Indo-Pak conflict.

    1965 - War monger pakistan launches failed Operation Gibraltar and starts another war.

    1999 - War monger pakistan sneaks in to Indian Kashmir like coward rats and occupy dozens of empty posts and starts another war.

    Zardari - Ready for 1,000 year war with India over Kashmir.

    You are in no position to talk about war mongers.
     
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    Annexation of Junagarh, Hyderabad Deccan, Goa and other territories, 1962 war on China initiated by India, 1971 East Pakistan, Siachen and raids in Maldives and misadventures against Sri Lanka ring a bell?
     
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    you keep talking like this we will ring Pakistani Bell for the one last time once and for all
     
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    Bla bla bla....been hearing that fir decades already.
    Touch us and face the consequences.
    Hope Modi understands nuclear deterrence beter than you do.
     
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    What you people are going to do if we are War mongers??:lol:

    Can u do anything about it
     
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    We won't have to do anything. You guys lost all credibilty after the Mumbai Siege.
    There will be no war.
     
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    After reading your comments in this forum for 1 month, I can considered you as a naive Pakistani who still thinks war is like an idiotic game,
    "Who has nukes he wins"

    As far as the Mumbai Siege, India doesn't need any credibility, and btw at least spell it right, Oh i'm sorry they don't show you how to spell in Pakistan studies do they?

    The only country that needs your so called credibility is Pakistan which runs on foreign aid.
     
  11. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    On Junagad, ask the Bhuttos, whose patriarch Zulfikar, then Dewan of Junagadh, advised the British to give it to India after the Nawab had decamped with the Treasury.

    On Hyderabad, it would have been land locked. Would it be able to exist?

    1962 started by India? Source Maxwell?

    East Pakistan? Again ask Zulfikar and the Punjabis of Pakistan, who defiled democracy because of their racist arrogance of not hanging over power to the duly elected Bengali Sheik Mujib.

    What raids in Maldives?

    Siachen? Who caused the issue with permission to foreign climbers?

    Who asked IPKF to come to Sri Lanka? Guess?

    Hope that rings a gong and the Bells in the nursery rhyme 'Oranges and Lemons'

    And Dawood is in Pakistan, no matter how much Pakistan lies through its teeth. Even the US has said so and given the address.
     
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    did you forget in 1971 how our vikrant ----ed your navy and mig21 assassinated paf, pakistani lives in dream
     
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    what about balochistan,people of hyderabad,junagad are happy to be in india, kashmir was handed by its king, if we are wa mongre then we would have captured east pakistan , its pak who occupie our territory and china started war of 1962 and
     
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    Can you elaborate a bit on the loss of credibility post Mumbai Siege ?
     
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    What about the annexation of Balochistan ? Still you are killing the Balochi people and the Human rights voilation there ? How can you shed tears for Muslims in other countries when you yourself are worst killer of Muslims be it in Banglabesh and now in Balochistan
     
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    It is futile to argue considering how denial is a culture for these folks. On the other hand, the humour value provided by such denials and delusions is rather unique and great for a good laugh. Always fun to observe.

    Pakistan and the Arab-Muslim Culture of Denial

    Pakistan and the Arab-Muslim Culture of Denial
    by Salim Mansur

    Since 9/11, Islamist culture is seen to be synonymous with violence, misogyny and a pathological hatred for others; and, ironically, it has made Muslims themselves its most numerous victims. "Impure," or non-authentic Muslims, meant those whose Islam had been weakened by un-Islamic or non-Islamic values imported from the West, or contaminated by the Hindu culture of India.

    Eventually political differences came to be viewed, by the measure of Islam, in terms of the "purity" and "impurity" of people. In the "Land of the Pure" [Urdu for Pakistan], those suspected of impurity must be cleansed, purged or driven out.

    For Osama bin Laden there was a clear and unmistakable cultural divide separating the Arab-Muslim world from the West. The idea that there is a difference, perhaps even qualitative, in terms of culture between the West and the East is considered a scandal by those who are convinced that our highly interdependent world is headed in a direction where, at some point, cultures will converge, or their significance be so diminished that cultural differences will be merely a matter of curiosity.

    In our contemporary world, however, Bin Laden was right, as was Samuel Huntington, warning almost a decade before 9/11 that cultural differences matter in world politics. When political leaders and intellectual pundits in the West minimize the role and influence of cultural differences in world politics, they seem to be insensible to historical record.

    The cultural trait most significant in explaining the difference between the West and the East is to be found in how people assess their place and role in history. There are those who willingly discern and identify, in history, their own responsibility for what affects them and others; and then there are those who on the contrary view history, even of their own making, fatalistically to avoid taking any responsibility for its outcome. These two opposing characteristics in general might be defined respectively as the Culture of Responsibility distinguishing the West, and the Culture of Denial, which distinguishes the East, in particular the Arab-Muslim world.

    The Culture of Responsibility is partly guilt-driven; guilt born out of anxiety, in both the individual and collective mind of people, that the choices they make can be wrong and, consequently, they cannot ethically shirk the role they have played in events in which they are actors. A sense of guilt is the spur that drives people individually and collectively to set right what is, or is seen to be, wrong; in an open, democratic society, this trait becomes an important self-corrective mechanism by which society reforms itself.

    The Culture of Denial is one of shame, honor and face-saving against the forces of history that push for change. In such circumstances taking responsibility for one's role in events is an admission of supporting change, for better or worse – and change, in this culture, goes against collective interests as reflected in the consensus behind age-old customs and traditions. In refusing to take responsibility, or being accountable, people in shame cultures are adept in blaming others while viewing themselves as victims of history.

    The contrast between these two cultures was evident in the manner in which the events of 9/11 were understood, explained, and interpreted by people in the West, in contrast to Muslims in the East. Once the shock and the grief lessened in time, analysts in the West sought explanations for 9/11 both in the thinking of those who carried out the terrorist attacks and also by looking inwardly toward what may have been the contributing factors, if any, of the West for provoking such attacks. Among Muslims, even those who denounced the perpetrators of 9/11, there was very little effort expended to understanding how their culture might have nurtured the thinking of Muslims that led to the terrorist attacks on the U.S. followed by similar attacks in Madrid, Spain, and London, England. Instead there was the reflexive response of blaming others, Jews or Israeli intelligence, and of brandishing the sociology of victimhood to exculpate the terrorists as victims long-suffering from the West's colonialist-imperialist policies and the alleged Israeli-Zionist occupation of Arab-Muslim lands in Palestine.

    Despite 9/11, many in the West have gone the extra distance to placate Muslim opinion in respect to the situation in the Middle East. There seems to be the sense of guilt, nestled inside the culture of responsibility, about the colonial-imperial history of the West in the region after World War I; that guilt raises its head when contending with, for instance, the history and politics of Arab-Muslim denial of any right of Jews to a secure homeland in Palestine. This feeling of guilt among western intellectuals has been effectively exploited by Arab and Muslim intellectuals, religious leaders, and politicians to explain away the failings of Muslim culture as the effects of the humiliations inflicted by the West. This misguided view has, unfortunately, resulted in the wrong-headed effort on the part of the West, led by Europe, the U.K., and the U.S., to appease the culture of Muslims that languishes in shame and denial.

    The world of Islam is much larger than the Middle East, and Muslim culture is not confined to the Arab world. The politics and history of Muslims from outside the Middle East, however, are less distorted by the lingering guilt of Western intellectuals, or by anti-Semites masking the oldest bigotry behind their excessive zeal in support for Palestinians in the Arab-Israeli conflict. This dismissal of culpability means that the Muslim culture is rendered more transparent in revealing what Kanan Makiya described as the "cruelty and silence" which surrounded the tyrannical rule of Saddam Hussein over Iraq.

    The history of Pakistan, and the genocide in Bangladesh, also provides a disclosure of the failings of Muslim culture – a history largely ignored or forgotten by the West. As a result, the embrace of Pakistan by America has contributed to strengthening those benefitting from this culture of shame and denial. There is lesson here in understanding the culture of the Muslim world without any blinkers.

    The history of Pakistan, and the genocide in Bangladesh, also provides a disclosure of the failings of Muslim culture – a history largely ignored or forgotten by the West. As a result, the embrace of Pakistan by America has contributed to strengthening those benefitting from this culture of shame and denial. There is lesson here in understanding the culture of the Muslim world without any blinkers.

    On 16 December 2013, Pakistan's National Assembly in Islamabad adopted a resolution by a majority vote condemning the execution of Abdul Quader Molla four days earlier in Dhaka, Bangladesh. The motion stated, "This House expresses deep concern on hanging of a veteran politician of Jamaat-i-Islami [JI] Bangladesh for supporting Pakistan in 1971." The motion was moved by a member of the Pakistani JI in the Assembly; and, speaking on a point of order, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, the Interior Minister, stated that Molla's hanging was "a judicial murder for supporting a united Pakistan in 1971."
     
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    seriously your country's a$$ is so deep in $hit and still you talk like this its so brave of you swinging even when your down........ and be happy that we have let you live and be grateful for it.......
     
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    ISI will have a merry making spree if modi wins.... its agents in india will indulge in arson and rape against indian muslims....then modi will be blamed by pakistan and OIC....so Modi will spend his time in denying and pacifying than spending time for good governance....lets see how he responds to paki kamasutric exuberance..thats what mian nawaz shareiff said during his last tenure,,,,
     
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    I wonder why Pakistan has so many "sophisticated" nukes but still can't provide heart and kidney transplants to its people who have to come here for the same.
     
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    angeldude13 Lestat De Lioncourt Senior Member

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    Pakistanis are filled with so much inferiority complex that they have to use the word Nuke in each and every statement they make.

    Don't worry pakis we will not invade a terrorist infested sh8thole :rofl:
     
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