Pakistan is a part of China's westward challenge to the U.S.

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  1. ajtr

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    Pakistan is a part of China's westward challenge to the U.S.


    Beijing is embarking on a new strategy with regard to Islamabad. Pakistan is becoming a key player in China's ambitious westward expansion vis-à-vis the United States in West Asia and the Indian Ocean.



    "A quiet geopolitical crisis," writes Selig Harrison, former South Asia Bureau Chief of the Washington Post, "is unfolding in the Himalayan borderlands of northern Pakistan, where Islamabad is handing over de facto control of the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in the northern part of disputed Kashmir to China ... and 11,000 Chinese troops have poured into the Pakistani-administered Kashmir."

    Indian military sources confirmed a Chinese infantry battalion now is deployed in Gilgit-Baltistan at the Khunjerab Pass to provide security for Chinese workers and railroad soldiers to work on widening the Karakoram highway and building a high-speed railroad.

    The control of Pakistani-administered Kashmir will give China a strategic land access to the Gulf through Pakistan. As Harrison points out, "It takes 16 to 25 days for Chinese tankers to reach the Gulf. When high-speed rail and road links through Gilgit-Baltistan are completed, China will be able to transport cargo from Eastern China to the new Chinese-built Pakistani naval bases at Gwadar, Pasni and Ormara, just east of the Gulf, within 48 hours."

    Chinese People's Liberation Army soldiers also are constructing 22 tunnels in secret locations in Pakistan. One obvious use of these tunnels is for the projected gas pipeline from Iran to China, but they also can be used for missile storage sites in Pakistan.

    Analysts in Southeast and South Asia now see Pakistan as "China's other North Korea." As K. Subrahmanyam, senior defense analyst of Indian Express, summarizes, "major projects in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), large-scale military presence in PoK, plans for a railway line and oil and gas pipelines connecting Xinjiang and the Pakistani port of Gwadar, and the agreement to supply Pakistan with two nuclear reactors, all these taken together indicate that Pakistan is likely to play the major role in China's West Asia strategy that North Korea does in its East Asia strategy."

    China is not only the biggest arms supplier for Pakistan, but Islamabad also depends on Beijing for transfer of technology and military know-how. China has not only modernized Pakistani armed forces, but also established many advanced joint military projects in Pakistan. China has provided Pakistan's military with more than 400 combat aircrafts, 1,600 large tanks, and 40 navy ships.

    Pakistan's nuclear and missile projects are backed by China as well. China has consistently provided Pakistan with wide-ranging assistance in helping Pakistan to develop nuclear weapons and a variety of missiles, ranging from short range M-11s to medium range M-9s and intermediate range M-18s, capable of carrying nuclear warheads with an estimated reach of 500-1800 kilometers. "If you subtract China's help from the Pakistani nuclear program," says Gary Milhollin of the Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control, "there is no Pakistani nuclear program."

    China's "generous" assistance to Pakistan is not limited to military and nuclear fronts, but includes the economic front as well. More than 60 Chinese state corporations and more than 10,000 Chinese technicians are working on more than 120 projects in Pakistan. Chinese investment in Pakistan's defense, banking, oil exploration and mining sectors was valued at $10 billion in 2009, a figure estimated to grow to $15 billion in 2010.

    Pakistan is a critical link in the chain of China's new "westward strategy." Beijing's Pakistan policy, together with its support for Tehran's nuclear weapons program and its sale of long-range missiles to Saudi Arabia, all are connected in China's move to take advantage of what Beijing perceives as declining U.S. power in the region.

    China is marching westward through Pakistan. Beijing also is making Islamabad increasingly dependent on China. When asked if Islamabad is worried about Chinese state-owned enterprises taking control of some of Pakistan's most important companies, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari stated, "We don't have any concern, and we don't feel China is a threat." "Pakistan's future lies in East with China," Azam Khan Swati, Pakistan's Federal Minister for Science and Technology, remarked recently.

    Although the United States has confirmed the information about the growing Sino-Pakistan nexus, and despite President Barack Obama's repeated declarations that Pakistan is central to American security, Pakistan is a country that remains largely ignored by the United States. Washington has made no effort to counter the rising Beijing-Islamabad military alliance and adopted no tangible policy against the nuclear aid by China. It is time for the U.S. to look seriously at the Sino-Pakistan nexus.

    Yi is the director of Marietta College's China Program.
     
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    Pakistan is indeed a key to China's geostrategic ambitions.

    They are also adding new nuclear reactors for Pakistan without going through the Nuclear Suppliers Group.

    It is not only essential for oil and gas routes through Pakistan to China, be close to the Middle East so as to monitor the US activities, box in India but also to indicate its stamp on South Asia.

    However, the aggressive and military power has got the peripheral countries in SE Asia worried and they are gravitating towards the US faster than believable.

    It is to be see how the cat jumps in South Asia.
     
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    US is just pumping money in Pakistan, so is China. The Army is just using the funds for its own adventurism. The Pak politicians are least bothered about the funds and just fill their pockets and letting the country go to the dogs. The common man is lead to believe that their country is in ruins coz of India.

    When 2 powers have tried to control any country, be it Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cuba etc, the host country ended up in ruins. The same is going to happen with Pakistan.
     
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    In the future pakistan and china will go down the dumps!!!
     
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    Pakistan is already a historical ruin.

    The US and China are merely trying to maintain it as a 'heritage site'!
     
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    If only our leaders had sense not to partition the country....usa and china wouldn't be dilly daddling in the region.

    hindsight is a wonderful thing :)
     
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    That is one perpective.

    Imagine, an undivided India, with two large religious groups with enough potential to strike each other and ignite (like the core of an Atomic Bomb) and then getting Balkanised, thanks to interference from USSR, USA and China. India might as well have become an Afghanistan or Pakistan.

    IMHO, partition was a good thing that happened to India.
     
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    I dont think so! Same politics was being played then...ultimately everyone on top wanted power.

    If jinnah were alive today he'd get shot by the long bearded mullah's in pak for not being proper muslim.
     
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    Mr Ernesto Most people in India believe that partition WAS a good thing .It gave us peace

    Any way here the point is that China wants dedicated corridors from Western China to Gwadar .So they are investing in road and rail .
    But Balocistan being such a HOT potato how will those corridors be secured.

    The pakistan iran gas pipe line is not getting off the drawing board for a massive security reason.

    Secondly the sindhis , mohajirs and pashtuns are nursing huge grudges against Punjabi establish ment

    So pakistan army will be deployed to secure this corridors.AND it will continue to earn dollars for its services
     
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    Thinking about the foreseeable future, it is too late, too little for India.

    What India should have or should not have done:
    • India should have taken full control of J&K and abrogated Article 370.
    • Not provoked China by dilly-dallying with US and CIA which was one reason why China attacked India.
    • Should not have followed a policy of keeping frontier regions underdeveloped so that 'invading forces had a hard time entering our country'.
    • Should not have continued with the SMLE Rifle (good rifle but no match for automatics).
    • Should have gone easy on this flimsy concept of Non-Alignment (although it has it's own merits).
    • Should have had completed Operation Unigauge by the end of 1970.

    The question is what now? There is another thread that talks about a two front war (http://www.defenceforum.in/forum/land-forces-army/3950.htm). I think we also need to talk about the following that should precede either a war with Pakistan, or China or with both, so that it helps us in that war (i.e. setting the ground up):
    • Propaganda
    • Internally weakening the potential adversary
    • Driving a wedge between them
    • Forming world opinion for/against countries
    • Aiding internal insurgencies
    • Using trade as a tool
    • Putting restrictions on export of vital minerals like Iron and Steel, which India exports to China
     
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    With a massive US navy presence in Arabian sea , Chinese navy will be irrelevant at Gwadar.

    On the other hand if these future corridors are a reality, It is a signal that China would not like an India pak conflict to happen bcos of the fear of its corridors being disrupted, thus keeping a tight leash on pak Army.

    It also means that an India pakistan war AUTOMATICALLY becomes a India vs pakistan and china.
     
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    And, this will fuel more grudge against the Punjabi dominated Pakistani Army. There will be more potential uprising and consequent reprisals, such as, but not limited to, the massacres in SWAT (http://www.defenceforum.in/forum/pakistan-defence-affairs/12352.htm). This will lead to further violence, suicide bombings, yet more reprisals from the Pakistani Army, refugees streaming into India, American intervention to secure Pakistan's nukes followed by Indian intervention to save the Baloch and Sindhis which will be followed by Pakistan declaring war on India yet again and the roller-coaster ride will go on.

    Now throw in some more condiments into this already rather spicy concoction:
    • Some Pakistani group getting hold of enriched Nuclear Fuel (if not the bomb itself) and using it, no, not on India, but on a rival Pakistani group, as a Dirty-Bomb.
    • Iran getting into an alliance with Pakistan to jointly crush the Greater Balochistan movement.
    • Oman butting in with Indian help to recover Gawdar.
    • Taliban taking full control of NWFP and spearheading the Uighur uprising against the Godless Chinese Commies in East Turkestan and helping the Tibetan cause for their friend Dalai Lama (http://www.defenceforum.in/forum/world-affairs-politics/14521.htm) with possible support of anti-China forces.
     
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