Pakistan has lost Kashmir plank: Pak media

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  1. Yusuf

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    Pakistan has lost Kashmir plank: Pak media - Pakistan - World - The Times of India
     
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    I think the problem remains the same. First it was the Pakistani Army, now its terrorism.
    Both having a common origin.

    Pakistan usually manages to make enough noise on the international stage to bring their attention to Kashmir. While I don't see any country challenging India's current policies, I don't think this issue is going to drown anytime soon.
     
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    I wonder what wrong has India done? India has lost territory to Pakistan which is illegally holding a lot of Indian Land. It then started directing terrorism against India to achieve its goals after being thrashed in all the wars IT started.

    When the Pakistanis want India to act as a "deserving Big Brother", does it expect India to cut off its Hands and hand to over to them just to earn their respect?
     
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    I think we should help the Baloch Rebels.... Give them aid and training.

    If Pakistan wants to see bleeding India with 1000 cuts.... Let us cut Pakistan into Trillion Pieces.

    We have seen enough articles like this.
     
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    India's wrong is that it has never done enough to instill fear among its opponents. It has not done anything for its enemies and rivals to fear it. And that is an important ingredient in politics(local or international). Therefore, India suffers the consequencies. The only time India acted with daring was when we liberated Bengali Muslims from the clutches of Pakjabis. And from then on the message was clear to Pakjabis that they could not win a coventional war with India(in other words, they feared a conventional war with India). So, they started developing nukes to defend themselves and started cultivating terrorism as offensive strategy. From then on, India has done nothing to show Pakjabis that India would punish such tactics. That means India has not instilled fear among them to dissuade them from such tactics. 26/11(and parliament attack) were the opportune time when we had the (show of)sympathy from the world(US), we could have used it to teach Pakjabis and their army(and its terrorists) a lesson. But we didnt. And we suffer.
     
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    quite clearly pakistan has lost the initiative that they had on kashmir, still recall the days when the only real agenda between our two countries was kashmir and none other. these days kashmir has become a passing agenda of the meeting where as the focus is invariably on terrorism, indian diplomacy has completely bulldozed its way on getting the focus of these discussions changed. like it or not and no matter how crude and rude it might sound, 9/11 came as a blessing in disguise for india when the us woke up to what terrorism really was, something to which till then india was subjected to daily in kashmir and earlier on in punjab, all sponsored at the behest of pakistan.

    the only two ways i believe kashmir can come to center stage is either the relationship between india and the us takes a u turn and heads towards down south or all of a sudden the us falls from its position of being the sole super power over night and their friend prc was to take center stage at once and fill up the space left vacant after the exit of the us and both of these occurrence look like a dream way too far fetched. other than these, if pakistan feels that they can revive terrorism and get back to what they were up to in the 90s and early part of this decade, then i doubt this world traumatised by terrorism has any appetite for any such acts.

    on ground the strategy has also changed, though there is support for terrorism but things have turned low key and now the focus has turned to mass street protests, calling bandhs every now and then, which has effect in srinagar but the reach beyond has dramatically reduced where once the whole kashmir was up in flames but not any more.

    the reason for the on ground change has been that people have been fed up with violence and now they want to get going with their lives rather than have another generation lost to senseless violence. people in the recently held state and central elections came out in huge numbers to cast their votes even after there were terror attack threats, poll boycott calls and the weather was sub zero with heavy snowfall and poll turn out was well over 60% which in it self speaks volumes to the extent that it forced one of the separatist to contest elections under the constitution of india, something they swore they would never do in the past and where he was badly drubbed and came a distant third in the constituency where he was fighting elections.

    it is not as if it is only pakistan that has lost the initiative on kashmir but the popular support has also vanished which is now limited to certain pockets. it is time pakistan woke up to new on ground realities and stopped dreaming of being the sole guardian of kashmir, where as it is them who are occupying our territory in the form of pakistan occupied kashmir and it is high time that india along with terrorism started talking about this part of kashmir which is an integral part of the union of india.
     
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    Helping the Baloch Nationalists will antagonise Iran, who have their own problems in Sistan-Balochistan. However, it is always a good idea to help anything that weakens Pakistan.
     
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    Na-pakistan also lost manhood. Na-pak is known for its Mujra girls or Taliban now..:pound::pound:
     
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    Pakistan will also loose Karachi if they dont realize using Terror as state policy against INDIA or any other have failed them miserably and it's eating them from inside. It's really the high time they put the extremists behind $h!t. Else god save Pakistan.
     

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