Pakistan Floods: India Increases aid to $25million

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Oh no even the moral support and condolences and Sympathy from Indians becomes pride issues with pakistan.They will only accept entitlement from india nothing less nothing more.
Well no actually, support at this part of the moment help strengthen relationships. I would be happy to see a shipment being dispatched to Pakistan from India. It would be nice to see and help improve the relationships in long run
 

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Well no actually, support at this part of the moment help strengthen relationships. I would be happy to see a shipment being dispatched to Pakistan from India. It would be nice to see and help improve the relationships in long run
In 2005, when India supplied earthquake relief to Pakistan, it was distributed only after the Indian labels were peeled off the boxes. You will find it in para 70 of EU Report. Can you explain how this helps in improving relationships?
 

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Well no actually, support at this part of the moment help strengthen relationships. I would be happy to see a shipment being dispatched to Pakistan from India. It would be nice to see and help improve the relationships in long run
@Zaki as Labong pointed out India did go out of its way during the 2005 Earthquake but the Pakistani government rebuffed GoI; once bitten twice shy.

Though this is no reason why SAARC nations can't allow well meaning and focused South Asian NGOs/disaster relief agencies to assist/aid each other in times of calamity.

In any case, wish to convey our deepest condolences to the Pakistani people.
 

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In China, some websites and channels are banned. In India, nothing is banned! That is the difference!

In China, you see some. In India, we see all!

Check this:

China amongst worst predators to freedom

Its more lasting impact may lie in the global exposure it has given to the Chinese government's complex system of censorship – an ever-shifting hodgepodge of restrictions on what information users can access, which Web tools they can use and what ideas they can post.

Censorship in China is unpredictable in part because it employs an array of tools — combining cutting-edge filtering algorithms and software that detects taboo keywords with the blunt instruments of the government's old propaganda machine. It takes place at different levels, involving government agencies and the private sector.



I could indicate many more links but what is the universal truth need not be elaborated upon.
Mr professional, i didn't deny that there were websites banned in China, in fact, i admitted that difference between China and India.

My point here is despite these bans, i am not stopped from getting information i need to understand what is going on outside and inside China.

So you should stop patronising me and other Chinese members in this forum just because some anti-China websites are banned.

In China, we can also see all, if we want to.
 

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well we wish we can do something but we are facing flood in many states and lots of loss here
 

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May be Pakistan should let India dam all the rivers for flood management.
 

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^^^^

That is a bit harsh Yusuf ,
Don't you think its a but early to be making jokes about the situation.

But like you said it high lights the farce that is Pak not having water.
While the problem is Pak cant manage or irrigate its own supply
 

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http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...+millions+in+aid+to+flood-hit+pakistan--bi-07
Nations pledge millions in aid to flood-hit Pakistan

There is no mention of arabs/turkey? there ummah brothers are not giving them any money?:emot0:
Well Indoneisa is mentioned in the article.

UAE and SaudiArabia have already airlifted aid
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Display...010/August/theuae_August47.xml&section=theuae
http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article95470.ece

and Turkey also announced $5million
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\08\05\story_5-8-2010_pg7_16


The problem is that just like lasttime during the earthquake hopefully this aid does not end up beign lost in corruption and mismanagement or worst in the hand of the militants who will claim tha they helped the people and garner support from them.
 

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Fake Medical Camp in Flood Relief Prime Minister of Pakistan Visited and distributed cheques to fake patients.




Gilani makes it to Mianwali, displays his healing touch


LAHORE: The local administration helped Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani display his hitherto hidden magical healing powers in flood-hit Mianwali on Wednesday, according to a footage aired by a private TV channel.

The prime minister, who had been wanting to visit the town and surrounding areas for a few days and was kept at bay by bad weather, finally managed to land in Mianwali on Wednesday afternoon. He made a general tour of the area, also using a boat, and then went to a medical camp set up at a government-run school where patients, gratitude writ large over their faces, greeted him.

The scenes must have been captured by the official TV which has recently been told to compensate for the lack of positive coverage that Prime Minister Gilani is said to be worried about. But no one would have imagined that the trip to the medical camp set up for the flood-affected people will lead to Mr Gilani's emergence as a true messiah for the ailing humanity.

No sooner had the prime minister departed from the spot than when those who had set it up decided that the camp was no more needed.

According to the Geo TV report, the beds were removed from the makeshift treatment centre in the school and the patients discharged, apparently cured by the prime ministerial healing touch.

Each one of them was Rs5,000 richer which they had received from Mr Gilani under the head of flood compensation money.

The television channel took an unusually lenient view of the episode and blamed it on the local administration. The incident, however, has the potential of turning out to be a real public relationing blunder for the prime minister and his party.

In a chat with journalists on Tuesday, Mr Gilani had betrayed his concern about how the media was not highlighting the good work the federal government was putting in to relieve the sufferings of those affected by the worst floods in years.

In that talk, he had also defended President Asif Zardari's visit to Europe at a time when many critics and political opponents said the country needed him so badly. The prime minister had categorically stated that the president was required to represent Pakistan's interests abroad, indicating that he along with other members of the president's team were at home to look after the country's affairs.

In the event, the prime minister who has been treated with some respect by the media, unwittingly became a true substitute to the president. The friends in Mianwali who staged the vanishing act on Wednesday ensured that the daily prime time slot usually reserved for the president was ably filled by the prime minister. If you want to follow news on your mobile, click on http://dawn.com/mobile/ and download Pakistan's first mobile news application.
 
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Food shortage may spark violence in Pakistan: report


WASHINGTON: About 77 million people go hungry in Pakistan while 36 per cent of the population are afflicted by poverty, says a new report released on Wednesday.

"From small farmers to the urban masses and internally displaced persons, millions of Pakistanis are affected by the scourge of food insecurity," warns the report by the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars, Washington.

The report notes that while the global food crisis subsisted in 2009, Pakistan continues to suffer from an acute food shortage.

The report — "Hunger Pains: Pakistan's Food Insecurity" — warns that the food shortage may lead to widespread violence if immediate steps are not taken to feed the hungry.

Quoting figures provided by the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation, the report notes that in February 2010, the prices of wheat and rice — Pakistan's two chief staple crops — were 30 to 50 per cent higher than before the global food crisis, and were on the increase.

The study links several recent incidents of violence to the food crisis, including the 2009 bombing of a World Food Programme office in Islamabad.

It also quotes WFP data from early 2010, showing that the prices of essential staples in Pakistan are nearly 40 per cent higher than five-year cumulative averages. The costs of sugar and cooking oil also escalated in the initial months of 2010.

The report notes that in early 2010, Pakistan's food inflation registered at about 15 per cent — a far cry from the 30 per cent-plus figures several years earlier, "but still of great concern to the country's economists, who noted that the Wholesale Price Index, a predictor of future price movements, stood at almost 20 per cent". Such "soaring WPI-based inflation", they said, portends further spikes in retail prices of key commodities.

"Weather, resource shortages, and conflict are exacerbating food insecurity in Pakistan," says Michael Kugelman, who edited the report along with Robert Hathaway, director of the centre's Asia programme.

The study notes that farmers and government authorities blamed drought-like conditions for reduced crop yields in late 2009 and early 2010. In the Swabi district, one farmer said his maize crop was "slashed" by 50 per cent. Rain-fed wheat-cropping areas have been hit particularly hard. Even the yields of irrigated areas are at risk. Meanwhile, Pakistan is burdened by devastating water shortages. The country's per capita water availability ranks among Asia's lowest, and is lower than that of many African nations.

At least 90 per cent of Pakistan's dwindling water supplies are allocated to agriculture, yet inefficient irrigation and poor drainage have produced epidemics of water-logging and soil salinity across the countryside. As a result, "vast expanses" of farmland fail to produce successful harvests. Additionally, Pakistan is suffering through a chronic energy crisis with frequent electricity outages; these power failures undermine the effectiveness of energy-dependent agricultural technologies.

Finally, Pakistani military operations against militancy displaced about three million people in 2009. Those uprooted from Swat were forced to depart in the middle of the harvest season. About 1.7 million of these internally displaced persons have started returning home, yet they continue to struggle to obtain food.

More than a million Pakistanis remain displaced – including 250,000 from Bajaur.

"Little wonder that in February 2010, the FAO concluded that the country's IDP crisis was causing severe localised food insecurity," says Mr Kugelman.

"Yet as of mid-April 2010, only about 20 per cent of the nearly $540 million international appeal to assist Pakistan's IDPs had been fulfilled." If you want to follow news on your mobile, click on http://dawn.com/mobile/ and download Pakistan's first mobile news application.
 

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Pakistan was crying for water and accusing India of "water" terrorism. Ironic that they are facing a terrorism like situation from "water" itself.
 

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Pakistan: Relief operations flounder

By Syed Fazl-e-Haider

KARACHI - With Pakistan facing probably its most dire humanitarian and financial crises in its history, for the ever-strengthening militants threatening the country's security it's business as usual.

On Wednesday, a suicide bomber driving a taxi rammed into the car of a paramilitary commander in Peshawar, the capital of northwestern Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa province, one of the provinces hardest hit over the past few days by floods and landslides that have claimed the lives of more than 1,500 people and affected millions of others.

The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the suicide attack in which three other people were killed and 10 injured, saying they



would target any security officials who had acted against them. At least 650 people have been killed in 25 major terrorist attacks nationwide since January - the majority in the tribal areas now ravaged by the record-breaking monsoon rains.

From the militants' viewpoint, the devastating floods provide an opportunity, not only to continue attacks - security officials have their hands full with relief operations - but also to win favor by helping those affected.

When a massive earthquake shattered Pakistan-administered Kashmir in October 2005, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) assisted victims and in many instances its members were the first on the scene to render help. This won the LeT, a banned organization blamed for among other things the deadly attacks on the Indian city of Mumbai in 2008, considerable grassroots sympathy.

Media reports say that a charity linked to the LeT is distributing food and medical services in Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa. "We are reaching people at their doorsteps and in the streets, especially women and children who are stuck in their homes," a member of the Falah-e-Insaniat charity was quoted by the Associated Press as saying.

Such relief efforts will resonate with a population already angry over what people see as a slow and ineffective official response to the tragedy. President Ali Asif Zardari has come in for particularly stinging criticism as he is on a diplomatic swing through Europe at a time when his countrymen feel they need him most. The major criticisms of relief operations are a lack of strategic direction, inadequate infrastructure to handle disaster and a lack of coordination among different services.

The United States, meanwhile, is helping. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday said the US had pledged US$10 million for flood relief, saying the figure could rise. The US is also supplying search and rescue equipment, disaster assessment teams, water purifiers and prefabricated bridges. The Pentagon has sent four Chinook helicopters to assist in evacuating stranded people.

Initial losses are estimated at more than $2 billion, said Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa Information Minister Mian Iftikhar Hussain, although the figure is expected to go much higher as officials are having problems getting updated figures.

"We appeal to the international community to help us in these trying times. Only the United States has pledged $10 million while other countries, including Islamic states, are silent," Hussain was quoted by Inter Press Service as saying.

However, the British government has pledged $8 million in aid, Australia $4.4 million and China $1.5 million. Other countries, including Indonesia, South Korea and Canada, have also promised help.

The American relief efforts can't do the US's image any harm in a country where it is widely disliked for what is perceived as pressuring Pakistan into joining the "war on terror" and abandoning the Taliban and jihadi groups.

Pakistan's unfolding catastrophe is forecast to deepen as more rains arrive, with the threat of disease ever-present. Food prices have already risen sharply as agriculture has been wiped out in much of the country's breadbasket.

"We see an urgent need for food assistance to people affected by floods to prevent a starvation-like situation," said Amjad Jamal, a spokesman for the United Nations' World Food Program. "Eighty percent of food reserves have been destroyed by the floods, which also caused massive damage to livestock, markets, roads and overall infrastructure."

The Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa government has asked the federal government to exempt people in flood-affected areas from all federal taxes and to waive electricity bills - where there is still power.

Typical of the devastation is the troubled Swat Valley, which has suffered years of Taliban rule and months of battles between Islamist militants and the Pakistan army. The floods destroyed almost everything in the village of Imam Dheri, including houses, shops, vehicles and crops. Residents have reportedly received no assistance from the government, and those who haven't been able to flee by boat are fast running out of food.

Last year, the country's armed forces launched a major offensive against Taliban militants in the Swat Valley, sparking a fight that caused widespread destruction and drove some 2 million people from their homes.

"We saw destruction during the three years of the Taliban and then during their fight with the army. But the destruction we have seen in the last three days is much more," the Associated Press reported a local flood victim as saying.

In such circumstances, victims do not care who delivers the assistance - government or Islamist extremist - as they just want to know how they are going to find their next meal and rebuild their lives.

That is not the government's attitude. "No banned militant or terrorist organization is allowed to take part in relief activities," the Daily Times reported, citing Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa minister Hussain.

The Pakistani army, which has the helicopters, boats and infrastructure needed for relief work, is nevertheless struggling to deliver food, medicine and tents, as are government agencies and several different political parties and welfare organizations. The problem is the sheer magnitude of the disaster, with millions of people in need. On Monday, for instance, only 4,000 people were rescued, including 95 Chinese and 12 Japanese from Pattan and Dassu, and 600 tourists from Kalam.

But many flood victims were unhappy with the response. About 300 people blocked a major road in the hard-hit Nowshera district of Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa to protest at receiving little or no aid.

Commenting on the absence of Zardari, an editorial in The Nation newspaper said:
It is undeniable, though, that the unprecedented destruction and disarray the nation is presently witnessing in Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa - 95% of its area is estimated to be affected - and other parts of the country, is a daunting challenge that would call for an extraordinary response for which we have been found wanting. One factor that could have served as a morale booster to the stricken people would have been the visible role of leaders, both in power and out of it, who should have called off their foreign visits, stopped mutual incriminations and joined hands to come to the rescue of the people. That might have also helped President Zardari improve his precipitously falling popular rating that at present stands at 20%.
Some experts argue that the fundamental problems of development, such as poor infrastructure and lack of functioning communication networks, have contributed to the northwest's vulnerability to the catastrophic effects of natural hazards.

Widespread poverty and the degradation of the environment due to the mismanagement of natural resources also help in transforming a natural event into a human and economic disaster.

"We are facing the worst-ever natural disaster in our history that has pushed the province almost 50 years back," said Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa chief minister Ameer Haider Khan Hoti. "Where are the NGOs, the government and UN agencies?"

They might be missing, but well-organized militant-related groups are not - and neither are the Americans.
 

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Well Indoneisa is mentioned in the article.

UAE and SaudiArabia have already airlifted aid
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Display...010/August/theuae_August47.xml&section=theuae
http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article95470.ece

hmmm
Saudi Arabia only Islamic country to send relief items: KP

and Turkey also announced $5million
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\08\05\story_5-8-2010_pg7_16


The problem is that just like lasttime during the earthquake hopefully this aid does not end up beign lost in corruption and mismanagement or worst in the hand of the militants who will claim tha they helped the people and garner support from them.
hmmmmmm
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010/08/06/story_6-8-2010_pg7_18
Saudi Arabia only Islamic country to send relief items: KP
 

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Whether it is India, Pakistan or any other SAARC counties; we are on the same page when it comes to disaster management. It reflects the rampant corruption in our system. We do not have experts heading the various disaster management institutions. These institutions are headed by beurocrats who are good for nothing.

Just few weeks before there was flood in Haryana and Punjab. The response of government of these two states were no different.
 

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Fake Patients? Fake Camps? Fake People?!!! WOW!!! What next? This is a really sad case! The Real deserving people are out there, dead or alive, and no one will bother! Corruption at its zenith, the human spirit at its lowest! God Speed
 

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