Pakistan Deal for Chinese J-10 Fighters Uncertain

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  1. ladder

    ladder Senior Member Senior Member

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    Pakistan Deal for Chinese J-10 Fighters Uncertain | Defense News | defensenews.com
     
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  3. Decklander

    Decklander New Member

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    PAF had big dreams of inducting 250 JF-17s and our Pak frnds on this forum wanted us to believe that a stealth version of JF-17 is under development.
    The truth is that JF-17 airframe supply might stop at just about 75 as Pak does not have money to pay for more. Now this is a situation that they do not have money to buy peanuts and they are negotiating for cake.
     
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    pakis might go for more jf 17, also upgraded versions......
     
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    ladder Senior Member Senior Member

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    Still dreaming that Arab countries would finance them.
    To be seen with begging bowl out is their national identity.
     
  6. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    When this deal was first signed pakistan claimed each plane would cost 7 million completed,
    Most modern warplane radars alone cost 4-7 million depending on the plane. How much
    Warplane would 7 million buy?
     
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    where did you get this number from?
     
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    anything comes free in AID or gift in the name of islam by arabs is welcome in pakistan
     
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    I thought China was going to export J-31 stealth fighter to Pakistan.:rolleyes:
     
  10. Decklander

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    the original deal was for 150+100 JF-17s.
    Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

    PAF wanted to replace all its fleet of F-7s, Q-5s and old Mirages with this aircraft.
     
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    bro, no one feeds a dog for nothing. The free oil from Kuwait and Saudia has dried up long back. That is why they are selling themselves to china. The dollars from WOT & ISAF are also drying up.
     
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    Vishwarupa Senior Member Senior Member

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    Last resort for them is prostitution (which they are good at). Let us see how they will use this for their survival.
     
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    few months back i hsaw that pak cut down jf-17 aircrafts to 225(dont remember it much)
    now you said that they will stop at 75.thats what i asked.

    stopping at 75 doesn't make this project economical to both pak and china.
     
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    they are already doing it, first they sold their motherland to USA and now they are selling it to China. Infact they have allowed their motherland to be used as a keep by chinese.
     
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    The whole deal was to be financed by China thru soft loans but PAF was to make small upfront payments which they cud not due to financial problems so the deal fell apart. Chinese not fools like saudis or US who will give out anything for free even to an all whether frnd/whore like pakistan.
     
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    I think Chinese are; after helping Pakistan with nukes and literally controlling their nuclear doctrine it has become imperative/ a monkey trap for China to help and keep Pakistan viable in any case.

    All these excuses of having no funds etc. could be a deliberate move of PAF because they might have been looking for western platforms for that class of fighter aircraft than going for that junk Chinese jet of no use for a air force who is been operating F-16s. Pakistan's eternal love for western weapons and western countries is bigger than anything, even China, regardless of what they rant against them. One must see faces full of charm their journalists and politicians display when any western country supports them; the same people who where abusing them day before.
     
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    In 2008, the US had kept the funds blocked for new F-16s which were paid by Pak. So Pak went for more JF-17s, but US pulled a fast one on China by releasing F-16s in 2010 which resulted in lack of funds for PAF to buy JF-17. Also US allowed them to upgrade old F-16s with help from Turkey. So the net result is that PAF now has about 80 F-16s, 50 JF-17s and rest all junk.
     
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    Point One: The fighter plane in discussion is of different class. Purchase of JF-17 by PAF still can be justified even with technological compromises it has/may have, but for higher class of jets, If I am a policy maker with PAF I would be a fussy shopper.

    Point two: I am just giving this discussion another twist; one can comprehend form what I have posted :wink:

    Regards
     

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