Pakistan: China wont let India gain entry inton NSG

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  1. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    ISLAMABAD: Pakistanis appear to be convinced that India will not make it to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), despite having the support of the United States, and are relying on China to this end.

    Pakistan’s former permanent representative at the United Nations in Geneva and envoy at the Conference on Disarmament said on Wednesday that the “chances of India gaining entry into NSG are virtually nil”.

    Ambassador Zamir Akram was speaking at a conference on the International Nuclear Order, organised by the Strategic Vision Institute and Konrad Adenauer Stiftung.

    This is the second time in a month that a senior official involved in the country’s nuclear affairs has dismissed India’s chances. At a conference late last month adviser to the National Command Authority, retired Lt Gen Khalid Kidwai, had said: “We also have friends in NSG who would not let it happen.”

    Mr Akram opined that China would not allow India to enter the coveted group because this would affect its nuclear cooperation with Pakistan. He said China is committed to ensuring that both India and Pakistan gain membership at the same time.

    Other than China, he said there are some countries that are upset by the “double standards” being shown in India’s case, and are calling for an approach based on criteria.

    The situation is reminiscent of 2008, when India received a country-specific safeguards agreement at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which paved the way for exemptions from the NSG for nuclear trade with India, despite the fact that it is not a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    On that occasion, both China and Pakistan initially indicated their opposition to an India-specific agreement with the IAEA, but when Islamabad later succumbed to US pressure, Beijing too withdrew its objection.

    Discussing the global nuclear order, Mr Akram said it had been destabilised by a number of factors, including the world powers’ double standards and discriminatory exemptions granted to India.

    For a balanced nuclear order, Mr Akram suggested the resolution of political disputes, a reduction in the reliance on nuclear weapons for deterrence, dialogue between nuclear weapon states on disarmament or controlling or containing nuclear arsenals, ending discriminatory policies followed by the US and other Western countries, and commitment to not building any more destabilising weapons.

    Former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, Gen Ehsanul Haq, while inaugurating the conference asked Pakistani diplomats to demonstrate self-confidence “based on the legitimacy of our case and the credibility of our capabilities”.

    Gen Ehsan also criticised the world nuclear order for being “highly discriminatory and obstructive”.

    He said Pakistan’s nuclear programme would continue “no matter how adverse the environment, to provide us the credible deterrence against the existential threats we confront”.

    SVI president Dr Zafar Iqbal Cheema, too, expressed disapproval of the nuclear order. He said the world powers were using the NPT and the Non-Proliferation Regime (NPR) for their political, strategic and foreign policy objectives, thereby diminishing their credibility.

    He said Pakistan was a victim of the West’s discriminatory attitude. He said the Indo-US nuclear deal provides India with fissile material for 50 additional warheads every year by sparing local resources.

    He said the proposed brackets for mainstreaming Pakistan in the nuclear order were tantamount to dismantling its deterrence capability.

    At the conclusion of the seminar, the think tank recommended that the government continue challenging the discrimination faced by Pakistan and seek an equitable and inclusive regime in the transforming global nuclear order.

    SVI also called for maintaining credible deterrence capability against India, and advised against compromising security for mainstreaming in the nuclear order.

    Published in Dawn, April 14th, 2016
    http://www.dawn.com/news/1251947/china-wont-let-india-gain-entry-into-nsg
     
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  3. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    How can slave speaks for his master :hail:
     
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    Ha Ha funny one
    I think we need to see this in context of the fear of Pak joining or not being able to join the Nuclear high commerce . Pakistan a known proliferating country and nuclear commerce is an oxymoron.
    The fact is India given a waiver in the Trigger list and Dual use list makes India a De facto member not a De jure member . According to INFCIRC/254, India has been exempted from the application of safeguards on all nuclear facility .
    India has nuclear deals with US , Russia , France ,Australia ,Canada , Japan (nearing completion ) etc and Pakistan cannot get any such deal with any such country except China no matter what so Pakistan's only hope is somehow to get into NSG by begging or cajoling while India is not there . If India enters which we will India can veto Pakistan forever from Nuclear commerce .
    I think It also suits China , Pakistan outside of NSG makes Pakistan continuously dependent more on China which China will exploit to have more leverage on Pakistan.
     
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    i dont know much knowledge about this but i m sure,,nothing is stay forever..kab tak china pak ka sath dega...well ek din toh india ko UN mein NSG mein entry mil he jayegi..
     
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    China will fight India to the last Pakistani it has always been Chinese policy to keep India occupied in South Asia .
     
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    yup but china has engaged in other zones..there is lot country who is not happy with chinese..like japan/viet/indonasia/malaysia/singapour/....more enemies more pb..may be war not happen but cold war may be
     
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    Exactly my point that's why Pakistan is important to keep India occupied for the long term . Pakistan's visceral hatred for anything India or Hinduism comes in handy .
     
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    but too much doing veto power against india everytime..its show how much desperate chinese actuly..but its also show world that china using wrong power..without giving any words..
    well india raising this issue in UN about hidden veto power usage.... but did you think veto power will be removed from clause someday.or there should be any other law UN created against veto in future..
     
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    This just shows Chinese disdain for India or its strategic security .

    Raising this issue is no good and no one will listen . As for veto power removal is concerned I don't think it will be removed .
     
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    Look India, my Daddy and uncles are stronger than you. :lol:

    India earns friends by giving something or pressurizing, they got friendship by selling sovereignty in Baluchistan.
     
  12. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah soon Pakistan will be 24th Chinese province.

    Pakistani will jump on each other to be called Chinese.
     
  13. LETHALFORCE

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    Flawed policy supported by a hyped up commie nation.


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    why flawed policy?I think its working perfectly. A big chunk of our resources are being spent on western border, not to mention state sponsored terrorism and bleeding by thousand cuts.
     
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    No sir, PAR Pakistan Autonomous region, then hans will ban everything related to islam :pound:
     
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    Backing a terrorist nation has pushed India into US camp. Which will cost the Chinese dearly.


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    Pakis want to be called anything but Pakistanis.
     
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    They are just simply pissed off bcoz while India can possibly enter the NSG club.. Porkistan can nevr evr dream of entering the NSG as it is widely known that porkis as unreliable bitches nd the biggest proliferators...
     
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    No, Pakistan will fight to the last man with or without Chinese assistance. It is India's policy keeping India occupied in South Asia.
     
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    "Pakistan will fight to the last man" - You are delusional. People like you will sink China.

    You think you are very smart. You are worse than trash.

    Enough of your speeches and propaganda.
     
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