Pakistan: Celebrating an Asian giant

[anupamsurey]

i think there is some mistake here.

this post must be kept in THE JOKES THREAD

 

[SADAKHUSH]

Musharraf spent a full night across the border in Kargill, few kilometers inside Indian territory.
Come back with your rants when Modi or your jingoistic generals can do the same.

Bhoon Daala in every adventure by your Generals where one wing of the Armed forces does not communicate about their plans and you claim to be Giant of Asia. Apni Aukat Ko Dekho , Jaano and Samjho than post your opinion. You are lucky that Modi is there instead of me. I would have finished the work in 1965 which has been delayed till now.

 

[SADAKHUSH]

Yes, only on idiotic planet called India. Pakistan is still a very strategic partner for three world powers, nothing is going to change that.

You should watch the video of your Generals first adventure where Indian Army marched through the rough terrain in the winter which your dumb ass Generals could not believe. And in 1965 our Air Chief Marshall himself bombed the Air Bases deep inside in your damn so called Pureistan, I know it because we were stationed there in the forward IAF Air Base.

 

[rock127]

Bhoon Daala in every adventure by your Generals where one wing of the Armed forces does not communicate about their plans and you claim to be Giant of Asia. Apni Aukat Ko Dekho , Jaano and Samjho than post your opinion. You are lucky that Modi is there instead of me. I would have finished the work in 1965 which has been delayed till now.

Why so late?

I would have done back in 1947.

 

[Nicky G]

Yes, only on idiotic planet called India. Pakistan is still a very strategic partner for three world powers, nothing is going to change that.

Neo-slave is not a 'strategic partner' but one can't expect any better.

Besides where were these 'strategic partners' when we ripped your country into two pieces? Your PM threw a hissy fit at the UN while these 'strategic partners' watched and your 90k trops surrendered.

Your country is treated like a tissue paper - use and throw. You whine before the whole world about Kashmir and no one gives a f'ck - that's some giant.

 

[tarunraju]

Mumbai last clocked GDP (nominal) of $278 billion. Higher than this "Asian Giant."

 

[shankyz]

Captain Pu**y Mushy was in Khemkaran @ 65' , where the largest tank ambush in the world took place in front of his eyes and he along with his Napak armoured division was annihilated. Poor guy must be having nightmares till today.


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[thethinker]

Asian giant in I.T export ...

Al Qaeda Terrorists Got Pakistani ID Cards With Just $100 Bribes

Pakistani authorities are investigating officials at the national identity database for allegedly issuing ID cards to terrorists, including some linked to Al-Qaeda, in return for bribes as small as $100.

The country's main spy service, the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency (ISI) uncovered the alleged corrupt practices at the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) during ongoing anti-terrorism operations, according to official documents.

"It has been found that many NADRA officials are involved in facilitating miscreants and terrorists in obtaining fake identity," said ISI correspondence seen by news agency AFP.

Adnan El Shukrijumah, a senior Al-Qaeda leader wanted by the US over a 2009 plot to attack the New York subway system, was among those who obtained a Pakistani ID card by bribing officials, the documents said.

Shukrijumah, who was born in Saudi Arabia and spent some years in the United States, was killed in December 2014 during a Pakistan army operation in South Waziristan tribal area close to Afghanistan.

The intelligence probe has named about 40 NADRA officials involved in issuing the fake paperwork in Karachi, including a retired army brigadier and a retired colonel.

In its own investigation into the racket, the Federal Investigation Agency found more than 50,000 national identity cards had been issued to illegal immigrants, most of them Afghans.

Last year Pakistan launched a major crackdown on militants after suffering more than a decade of bomb and gun attacks by homegrown Islamist extremists.

A military offensive against Taliban and Al-Qaeda hideouts in the northwest has been accompanied by what the authorities have called "intelligence-led" operations in cities around the country.

 

[rock127]

Mumbai last clocked GDP (nominal) of $278 billion. Higher than this "Asian Giant."

Talking of FACTS....

Foreign Reserves of Asian "Minnow" India is just $ 353 Billion.
Foreign Reserves of Asian "Giant" Pakistan is massive $ 15.6 Billion or 22 times less than India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_foreign-exchange_reserves

Just a funny fact that the top 3 richest men of India have $ 21, 20,19 Billion worth of assets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_Indian_billionaires


FACT: Paki definition is just opposite of the facts and reality.Pakistan has FAKE news sites and FAKE news reporter hired by ISI where the owner is the same hence running a false propaganda machine.

Verdict: Pakistan is the land of LIES and CONSPIRACY theories and have no credibility. :bs:

 

[rock127]

Asian giant in I.T export ...

Al Qaeda Terrorists Got Pakistani ID Cards With Just $100 Bribes

Pakistani authorities are investigating officials at the national identity database for allegedly issuing ID cards to terrorists, including some linked to Al-Qaeda, in return for bribes as small as $100.

The country's main spy service, the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency (ISI) uncovered the alleged corrupt practices at the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) during ongoing anti-terrorism operations, according to official documents.

"It has been found that many NADRA officials are involved in facilitating miscreants and terrorists in obtaining fake identity," said ISI correspondence seen by news agency AFP.

Adnan El Shukrijumah, a senior Al-Qaeda leader wanted by the US over a 2009 plot to attack the New York subway system, was among those who obtained a Pakistani ID card by bribing officials, the documents said.

Shukrijumah, who was born in Saudi Arabia and spent some years in the United States, was killed in December 2014 during a Pakistan army operation in South Waziristan tribal area close to Afghanistan.

The intelligence probe has named about 40 NADRA officials involved in issuing the fake paperwork in Karachi, including a retired army brigadier and a retired colonel.

In its own investigation into the racket, the Federal Investigation Agency found more than 50,000 national identity cards had been issued to illegal immigrants, most of them Afghans.

Last year Pakistan launched a major crackdown on militants after suffering more than a decade of bomb and gun attacks by homegrown Islamist extremists.

A military offensive against Taliban and Al-Qaeda hideouts in the northwest has been accompanied by what the authorities have called "intelligence-led" operations in cities around the country.

This thread is turning into this again -> Pakistani Lies & Denial thread

Pakis getting exposed again and again and again and...

 

[roma]

Yes, only on idiotic planet called India. Pakistan is still a very strategic partner for three world powers, nothing is going to change that.

between neo-ji and myself we talk politely and express our opinion(s) whether the other accepts or not

i say packland has already been sold to prc-china .. ...

it is a strategy which prc-hina had evolved a very long time ago and certainly even outsmarted our wonderful early goi ( eg Mr J Neh ) ....and i dont blame the poor guy .

this is because prc-china is a long term going concern which HAS continuity as opposed to other nations which come and go

so the sad fact is for me is that the country which has the pure Punjabi culture , that is Pakistan, is selling out because of many reasons including corruption, mis-management etc etc

personally i wouldn't mind sharing Kashmir with Pakistan or indeed any other part of India eg Punjab etc etc ....because culturally and ethnically we have a lot going together ....

but if they are gonna bring prc-china in, as it seems to be , then forget it ...absolutely NO WAY ! ...it would likely be war and perhaps even nuke too , don't kid ourselves , be prepared for it !!!!!!

for india it will be tough .....for pakistan , they have lost EVERYTHING ......culture , family , religion etc etc ....it will in 30 years be known as South Xinjiang ....mark my words !

and india will then be the nation with the largest muslim population, yes , we will be the protector of South Asian Muslims, not packland , which may not even exist , it will be part of prc-china, sad but likely to come true !

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@sgarg @Rashna

 

[tarunraju]

between neo-ji and myself we talk politely and express our opinion(s) whether the other accepts or not

i say packland has already been sold to prc-china .. ...

it is a strategy which prc-hina had evolved a very long time ago and certainly even outsmarted our wonderful early goi ( eg Mr J Neh ) ....and i dont blame the poor guy .

this is because prc-china is a long term going concern which HAS continuity as opposed to other nations which come and go

so the sad fact is for me is that the country which has the pure Punjabi culture , that is Pakistan, is selling out because of many reasons including corruption, mis-management etc etc

personally i wouldn't mind sharing Kashmir with Pakistan or indeed any other part of India eg Punjab etc etc ....because culturally and ethnically we have a lot going together ....

but if they are gonna bring prc-china in, as it seems to be , then forget it ...absolutely NO WAY ! ...it would likely be war and perhaps even nuke too , don't kid ourselves , be prepared for it !!!!!!

for india it will be tough .....for pakistan , they have lost EVERYTHING ......culture , family , religion etc etc ....it will in 30 years be known as South Xinjiang ....mark my words !

and india will then be the nation with the largest muslim population, yes , we will be the protector of South Asian Muslims, not packland , which may not even exist , it will be part of prc-china, sad but likely to come true !

@angeldude13 @bose @brational @blueblood @anupamsurey @ersakthivel @Blackwater @bengalraider @cobra commando @DingDong @Hari Sud @Kunal Biswas @LETHALFORCE @mhk99 @Neil @OneGrimPilgrim @pmaitra @Rowdy @Sakal Gharelu Ustad @Srinivas_K @sorcerer @TejasMK3 @Yusuf @jackprince @Bangalorean @indiandefencefan @aliyah @hit&run @VIP @Razor @Blood+ @Screambowl @Sylex21 @tsunami @Zebra
@sgarg @Rashna

Now I'm really beginning to suspect your account has been hijacked. This is bullshit.

 

[Mad Indian]

^^^ Either that or she is suffering from temp insanity. Good news is, it can be treated

 

[Raja.pakistani]

A country that barely has the GDP of Bombay is a 'giant'.

Both country has been neck to neck in gdp per capita terms. Till 2006 in nominal basis and till 2008 in ppp basis, per capita income of Pakistan was more than India. India has lil advantage in recent years since this war on terror started in Pakistan which had negative impact on investment and economy of Pakistan. Pakistan is not doing bad if we consider what Pakistan inherited in comparison to India at the time of partition and this political instability, wars, conflicts and terrorism issue in there

Independent Pakistan inherited Indias longest and strategically most problematic borders.The heartland of support for the Muslim League lay in Uttar Pradesh which was not included within Pakistan. At the same time 90% of the subcontinent's industry, and taxable income base remained in India, including the largest cities of Delhi, Bombay and Calcutta.

The economy of Pakistan was chiefly agricultural and controlled by feudal elites. Furthermore, at the division of India, Pakistan won a poor share of the colonial governments financial reserves with 23% of the undivided land mass, it inherited only 17.5% of the former governments financial assets. Once the army had been paid, nothing was left over for the purposes of economic development so you see thats where India had edge over Pakistan and then Pakistan had this political instability, Military rules, religious extremism, terrorism and all this wars and conflicts with India, Afghanistan, bangldesh etc so Pakistan has not done bad if we consider all these factors in past which were hurdle in the way of economic progress

 

[cannonfodder]

And who started those 4 wars? Who promoted terrorist and used them strategic assets?
You made your country dependent on foreign money u received as mercenaries.

Both country has been neck to neck in gdp per capita terms. Till 2006 in nominal basis and till 2008 in ppp basis, per capita income of Pakistan was more than India. India has lil advantage in recent years since this war on terror started in Pakistan which had negative impact on investment and economy of Pakistan. Pakistan is not doing bad if we consider what Pakistan inherited in comparison to India at the time of partition and this political instability, wars, conflicts and terrorism issue in there

:blah::blah::blah::blah:

Independent Pakistan inherited Indias longest and strategically most problematic borders.The heartland of support for the Muslim League lay in Uttar Pradesh which was not included within Pakistan. At the same time 90% of the subcontinent's industry, and taxable income base remained in India, including the largest cities of Delhi, Bombay and Calcutta.

Agriculture is still main occupation for majority of Indians. There were zamandari and jagardari systems in India as well. Did you abolish them? Own up your own mistakes and wrong doings.

The economy of Pakistan was chiefly agricultural and controlled by feudal elites. Furthermore, at the division of India, Pakistan won a poor share of the colonial governments financial reserves with 23% of the undivided land mass, it inherited only 17.5% of the former governments financial assets. Once the army had been paid, nothing was left over for the purposes of economic development so you see thats where India had edge over Pakistan and then Pakistan had this political instability, Military rules, religious extremism, terrorism and all this wars and conflicts with India, Afghanistan, bangldesh etc so Pakistan has not done bad if we consider all these factors in past which were hurdle in the way of economic progress

 

[ersakthivel]

By Farhan Bokhari, Special to Gulf News
August 15, 2015

Image Credit: AP


The legacy of Pakistan’s troublesome birth and its eventful journey through many trials and tribulations was hardly evident on Friday, August 14, as Pakistanis joined hands across the country to robustly celebrate their 68 years of independence.



At the time of its birth in 1947, Pakistan was roundly rejected by many sceptics as a state that would not survive for long, let alone prosper and grow into one central to many matters of global significance. Yet, Pakistan’s historical journey has proven sceptics wrong. In sharp contrast to the images of scores of refugees that crossed over into Pakistan from India, adding unprecedented stress to the newborn country, today’s Pakistan is here to stay.



Friday’s celebrations brought together numerous reminders of Pakistan’s success story, demonstrated amply in more ways than one. It was a day of powerful reminders of many elements of the success stories that have become the hallmark of Pakistan.



Though Pakistan is not short of potentially acute or outright acute challenges, the country’s ability to withstand the test of time has proven to be inspirational. The past year has seen Pakistan boldly stand up to Taliban militants, who were once seen successfully advancing in their push to gain space across the South Asian country.



On Friday, a number of soldiers and officers, including those who laid down their lives in bravely facing the Taliban, were honoured with the announcement of high profile military awards.



This came simultaneously with awards announced for excellence in fields ranging from the arts, education and culture to a variety of sciences.



Diverse areas of excellence



Beyond just the ceremonies, which will be held when the awards are formally given, their sheer variety amply pointed towards the diverse areas where Pakistanis have excelled. In part, the country’s survival has been ensured all along by its more than half a million strong armed forces who ultimately form the bed-rock of Pakistan’s national security framework.



This is important to not only protect Pakistan’s security interests against India — a neighbour with whom Pakistan has fought three wars. More immediately, Pakistan’s armed forces hold a pivotal position in the ongoing campaign against Taliban militants whose leaders have repeatedly expressed their determination to take charge of the country.



Just days before Independence Day on Friday, General Raheel Sharif, the respected army chief, finally recommended the death sentence for terrorists who were put on trial through recently formed military courts.



In sharp contrast to just a year ago when many sceptics believed that the Taliban would eventually gain an upper hand in Pakistan, things couldn’t be more different today. And going forward, the ability of the Taliban to pose an existential threat to Pakistan appears to be virtually over.



Aggressive anti-Taliban push



Ceremonies during a special event in Islamabad on Friday, attended by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and President Mamnoon Hussain, included one in memory of the massacre of more than 140 Pakistani schoolchildren in a Taliban attack in Peshawar in December 2014. Rather than unnerve the army and the Pakistani nation, the Peshawar attack only worked to galvanise the Pakistani nation in support of a more aggressive push against the Taliban.



Meanwhile on the streets of Pakistan’s main cities, Friday’s celebrations were an opportunity for Pakistanis across the board to set aside their differences in favour of remembering their country’s legacy. From upper class neighbourhoods to low-income habitations, there was no shortage of joyful fervour to mark the day.



In Islamabad, the Pakistani capital, scores of visitors thronged venues of interest, including a replica of the Chaghai hills of Pakistan’s south-western Balochistan province. It was here in 1998, just weeks after India’s second round of nuclear tests, that Pakistan went ahead with its six maiden nuclear tests.



The decision not only brought out Pakistan as the world’s newest nuclear weapons’ state but also firmly gave Pakistan the prized position of being the only country in Muslim world armed with nuclear weapons.



Meanwhile, in a related event in the south western city of Quetta, up to 400 tribal militants including those who had fought the security forces for years, publicly laid down their arms on Independence Day. For years, the province of Balochistan, of which Quetta is the capital, has been at the centre of an insurgency.



Incentives to abide by the law



Though the problem is far from over, a combination of a concerted military push, alongside incentives for those willing to abide by the law, appears to be bearing fruit. Going forward, the Pakistani state needs to continue on its course as it seeks to restore peace to Balochistan.



At the same time, two important developments on Pakistan’s borders are set to improve the country’s prospects.



On the one hand, China’s promise of investing up to $46 billion (Dh169 billion) in new energy projects in Pakistan and a road linking western China with a Chinese-funded deep sea port at Gwadar in southern Pakistan, marks the largest foreign investment ever committed in this manner.



On the other hand, the coming removal of global sanctions on Iran-Pakistan’s western neighbour, Iran, paves the way finally for Pakistan to begin importing badly needed gas for its energy starved economy.



If the two initiatives succeed, they will become a game changer for Pakistan at a time when the South Asian country is faced with unprecedented economic challenges of the kind that require major inputs of energy supplies.



Eventually, Pakistan’s bottom line is abundantly clear. Friday’s celebrations underlined the widely shared conventional wisdom that Pakistan is here to stay.



Farhan Bokhari is a Pakistan-based commentator who writes on political and economic matters.

http://m.gulfnews.com/opinion/think...an-asian-giant-1.1567315#.VdAolnHVciM.twitter

between neo-ji and myself we talk politely and express our opinion(s) whether the other accepts or not

i say packland has already been sold to prc-china .. ...

it is a strategy which prc-hina had evolved a very long time ago and certainly even outsmarted our wonderful early goi ( eg Mr J Neh ) ....and i dont blame the poor guy .

this is because prc-china is a long term going concern which HAS continuity as opposed to other nations which come and go

so the sad fact is for me is that the country which has the pure Punjabi culture , that is Pakistan, is selling out because of many reasons including corruption, mis-management etc etc

personally i wouldn't mind sharing Kashmir with Pakistan or indeed any other part of India eg Punjab etc etc ....because culturally and ethnically we have a lot going together ....

but if they are gonna bring prc-china in, as it seems to be , then forget it ...absolutely NO WAY ! ...it would likely be war and perhaps even nuke too , don't kid ourselves , be prepared for it !!!!!!

for india it will be tough .....for pakistan , they have lost EVERYTHING ......culture , family , religion etc etc ....it will in 30 years be known as South Xinjiang ....mark my words !

and india will then be the nation with the largest muslim population, yes , we will be the protector of South Asian Muslims, not packland , which may not even exist , it will be part of prc-china, sad but likely to come true !

@angeldude13 @bose @brational @blueblood @anupamsurey @ersakthivel @Blackwater @bengalraider @cobra commando @DingDong @Hari Sud @Kunal Biswas @LETHALFORCE @mhk99 @Neil @OneGrimPilgrim @pmaitra @Rowdy @Sakal Gharelu Ustad @Srinivas_K @sorcerer @TejasMK3 @Yusuf @jackprince @Bangalorean @indiandefencefan @aliyah @hit&run @VIP @Razor @Blood+ @Screambowl @Sylex21 @tsunami @Zebra
@sgarg @Rashna

India will soon become the nation which houses the "most democratic, well educated , secular minded, progressive muslim population on the earth ,"

Thats when Pakistanis can pause from their vengeful diatribe against india and take stock of what kind of muslim nation they produced as a result of two nation theory.

MOdi will soon solve kashmir problem by focussing single mindedly on the economics.

Then the reality will bite pakistanis about what they did with their 70 year "independence"

Just like our eastern neighbors with largest number of world's extreme poorest and hungry people consider themself a giant lol.

If you still have any doubts on that count you can look at the pictures of the funeral procession of our late president and scientist Abdul kalam to know the details.Ninety percent and above of the 500000 strong crowds , on that day ,on the southern tip of indian ocean which mourned kalam's death were non musilm.

 

[Mad Indian]

India will soon become the nation which houses the "most democratic, well educated , secular minded, progressive muslim population on the earth ,"

Yeah right. Keep hoping and praying

 

[ersakthivel]

Yeah right. Keep hoping and praying

Fringe sections are present in every community , but ultimately the idea of india will triumph over the hatred of two nation theory.

 

[Mad Indian]

Fringe sections are present in every community , but ultimately the idea of india will triumph over the hatred of two nation theory.

the idea of India was not present during partition huh?

And seriously, even you have to join the useless wkk bandwagon huh? I think this is the problem with Hindus throughout history they start celebrating victory with short/minor tactical wins ignoring the larger threat looming over them.

Answer this :

1.most of the terrorist scum in India belong to middle class what happened to educated middle class economic secularist bs?

2. Extremist belong to every community(classic equal equal but again) , why do almost all terrorist acts are traced back to Muslims?

3. Why is that majority of SIMI is from colleges? Aren't college education supposed to make them secular?

Come on bro, Modi's victory is nothing but a small tactical victory for us. Even then, Hindus per she have achieved nothing from it, nothing, zilch , Nada. Real victory is when we have every muslim in the country who is an Apj Abdul kalam at heart. And that's just wishful thinking

 

[ersakthivel]

the idea of India was not present during partition huh?

And seriously, even you have to join the useless wkk bandwagon huh? I think this is the problem with Hindus throughout history they start celebrating victory with short/minor tactical wins ignoring the larger threat looming over them.

Answer this :

1.most of the terrorist scum in India belong to middle class what happened to educated middle class economic secularist bs?

2. Extremist belong to every community(classic equal equal but again) , why do almost all terrorist acts are traced back to Muslims?

3. Why is that majority of SIMI is from colleges? Aren't college education supposed to make them secular?

Come on bro, Modi's victory is nothing but a small tactical victory for us. Even then, Hindus per she have achieved nothing from it, nothing, zilch , Nada. Real victory is when we have every muslim in the country who is an Apj Abdul kalam at heart. And that's just wishful thinking

I am no sickularist to argue that poverty is the reason for muslim terrorism in india. And I have no compunction in stating that there is no such thing as hindu terrorism in india.

It's all a power struggle, a miniscule but influential section of hard core Wahabi fanaticism was taking over Indian muslim thought space under the benevolent gaze of Sonia led UPA. Modi govt finally cracked the whip and the NGO fundamentalism in now laid to rest.

I only hope good things will follow and the new govt will facilitate the right development path for every religious section of the society. Just see the triumvirate that is heading Indi'a DRDO. A muslim Sidhique as head of GTRE, a hindu Reddy as scientific adviser to DM and a christian Christopher as head of DRDO.

A day will come whenever the globe lists the pioneers of technology among muslims , indian muslims will lead the list. Then fake article writers like "coming new giants of Asia " will realize which nation is the globe's truly muslim giant.

A day will come when future websites list the most influential muslim personalities of the world , indian muslims will lead the list. Then Pakistanis who are fixated with their two nation hatred will realize their folly of prostituting with every hegemonic power in the world to stall india's progress by making indian muslims fundamentalists has ultimately back fired and , future websites will list that the leading contribution from "Future giant of Asia-pakistan to the thought process of the world is suicide bombing and relentless of export of islamic terrorism.

India has to utilize the energies of its 200 million plus minority for progress and resuce it from the sickular ghetto of UPA's criminal vote bank politics if the nation is to progress fast and have hormonius religious relations.

If uniform civil code is implemented and economic and social progress is made as the sole goal for all citizens without discrimination based on religion, then the scope for musilm fundamentalism will reduce .

And the greatness of kalam and many other worthy examples like Wipro's Premji will provide real role models for common muslims in india, rather than Osama and Yakoob memon, which the "future giant of Asia-pakistan" is trying to foster on indian musilms.

This is no rose tinted track two diplomacy. It will happen.